There was no warning before gunshots, say Taiwan fishers

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Fishermen Indonesian Imam Buchaeri, left, Taiwanese Hong Jie Shang, center, and Hong Yu Zhi, right, listen during the start of a hearing at the Philippine Department of Justice in Manila on Monday, Sept. 9, 2013. They testified at the hearing against eight members of the Philippine Coast Guard involved in the fatal shooting of a Taiwanese fisherman. AP photo/aaron favila

MANILA, Philippines—The son and son-in-law of the Taiwanese fisherman who was killed when the Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) fired shots at their fishing boat in Balintang Channel on May 9 said they were attacked without warning.

Hong Yu Zhi and Hong Jie Shang, son and son-in-law, respectively, of slain fisherman Hung Shi Cheng, also said they were not fishing when their boat strayed into Philippine waters.

The Taiwanese fishermen made the statements in the affidavits they submitted on Monday to the Department of Justice panel conducting a preliminary investigation of the homicide complaint filed by the National Bureau of Investigation against eight PCG men involved in the fatal shooting.

“There were no whistles or other warning sounds or actions to drive us away. Their vessel approached our vessel at around 40 meters and without any reason fired directly at our vessel,” Hong Jie Shang said.

He said his father-in-law was the only one hit in the group which included himself, his brother-in-law who was captain of the vessel, and Indonesian fisherman Imam Buchaeri.

All three fishermen attended the first hearing of the NBI homicide complaint against the eight PCG men, as well as obstruction of justice charges against two other PCG men, by a DOJ panel led by Assistant State Prosecutor Juan Pedro Navera.

At the start of the hearing, Navera rejected a motion by PCG lawyers asking that the preliminary investigation be conducted by the Office of the Deputy Ombudsman for the Military and Other Law Enforcement Offices because it did not trust the DOJ panel to conduct an “unbiased and impartial” investigation.

PCG lawyer Rodrigo Moreno said the DOJ panel was under the NBI, which conducted the probe into the May 9 shooting, and that it had recommended the homicide and obstruction of justice complaint against the PCG.

Moreno also complained that Justice Secretary Leila de Lima had prejudged the case against the PCG with her statements in the media.

But Navera argued that the NBI had filed more than 100 cases in the DOJ and the DOJ panel was not beholden to the NBI or to De Lima.

He said his panel had jurisdiction over the NBI complaint.

The two Taiwanese and Indonesian fishermen were able to subscribe to their affidavits and were excused by Navera from attending the next hearing on Sept. 15.

Also subscribing to their affidavits were the witnesses of the NBI and the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources.

Navera gave the NBI time to fulfill the documentary requirements of its other witnesses and for the referral complaint to be signed by NBI Deputy Director Virgilio Mendez.

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  • Palparan

    the gunshot was the warning u stupid chink!

    • Chihuahua

      shoot first before warning or asking questions….seems to be the norm and acceptable practice of PNP. Sounds like PCG is only acting according to accepted norms among peers within the police and armed forces. No wonder nobody saw the action as doing anything illegal or an act of violation of international conduct.

      • https://www.facebook.com/jane.tan.3367174 Jane Tan

        The shooting part is not a norm. Racism, however, is quite common. Other nationalities see us as a very hospitable race, but its only because we need something from them. In general, when a Filipino has nothing to gain, they can be incredibly indifferent; much like a prostitute.

      • Chihuahua

        you hit it right on the nail! case in point, when US bases became a liability and there were no longer any perceived external threats, they were summarily kicked out. Fast forward, because of the perceived threat from China and with no credible defense, suddenly, inviting back US bases have become popular. Yes, much like a prostitute.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Who corrupted the US schools skilled Filipino General’s, being to be sure the country will be caught pants down, defenseless, ready for US “help” and weapons market ?

        Organized corruption is one of the main US neocolonial tool, remember Marcos’s, Somoza”s, Pinochet, Gulf Countries and al.

      • https://www.facebook.com/jane.tan.3367174 Jane Tan

        I won’t go so far. I will support U.S. assistance in the present day because the world stage will not allow an act of colonialism, which was the U.S. agenda in the past.

    • Sammy

      One block in Taipei has a higher GDP than all of the Philippines. Shut it before we send all you slave laborers back home.

      • eunicewatson

        You have higher GDP but your fishermen steal from the poor Philippines?

      • hello stupids

        it is occur in the overlapping EEZ of both country .There is no such thing call steal from the poor Philippines .It is his own backyard

      • hello stupids

        not higher gdp mate GDP is not between 2 country it is the gross domestic production compare with the previous year only it can go up and down by %…if it never go up for 3 yrs or down it is so call recession

      • Sammy

        GDP is compared between countries all the time. That is why there is a GDP ranking of countries every year.

      • hello stupids

        OK I give U a lession
        If U have 100 dollar last year and your gdp is 7% that means U have 107 dollar now
        If I have 1 million dollars and I only have 1% gdp growth that means I have 1 million and 10000 dollars

        don’t U get it?
        are U talking your 107 dollars is more than my 1 million and 10 thousand dollars
        the poor and not develope country always have a higher GDP growth.
        Laos can have a GDP 300% growth easy if they have investment come in
        If Ur Taiwanese U should have this knowledge but what R U….

      • Sammy

        You are giving me a lesson? That’s amusing. I never said anything about YEAR TO YEAR GDP GROWTH. Did I? If I did, I want you to point out where I said GDP GROWTH. I never mentioned any percentages, growth figures, or anything else. I said GDP (Gross Domestic Product). I did not say GDP from 2012 to 2013 or from 2010 to 2011. I stated GDP. Do you understand that? Taiwan has a HIGHER GDP than the Philippines by A LOT. I don’t care if the Philippines had 1000% GROWTH in 2012. It is still WAY LOWER than Taiwan.

      • hello stupids

        what is the PE of the share?
        hahaha

    • Michael T

      Cry More?

    • JK1000

      Oo nga naman, Ikaw kahit buhay pa ay salvage kaagad..OH dibaaa…

    • https://www.facebook.com/jane.tan.3367174 Jane Tan

      50+ bullets do not count as a “warning”.

      • hello stupids

        total is 108

      • https://www.facebook.com/jane.tan.3367174 Jane Tan

        Warning barrage?

    • hello stupids

      do these to the Chinese Coast Guard in the Sprathy…stupid Pygmy

  • padrefaura

    But Navera argued that the NBI had filed more than 100 cases in the DOJ and the DOJ panel was not beholden to the NBI or to De Lima.

    —————-

    Weh! Hindi nga?

  • JK1000

    No need for a warning shot, you thieves…..

    • Chihuahua

      if shooting before warning is the norm by local cops and law enforcement or armed forces, it is certainly not acceptable practice in international protocols. this explains the action of PCG, pre and post engagement. .

    • walaywalay

      SINCE WHEN?

      1 IF HE WAS A FILIPINO FISHERMAN YOU WOULD BE SCREAMING ”THEY NEVER EVEN FIRED A WARNING SHOT”

      THAT IS WHY THERE MUST BE–TO PROTECT FILIPINOS~!!

      2 THIS GUY WAS NO CONVICT HE WAS A SUSPECT IF WE START SHOOTING ALL SUSPECTS WE WOULD HAVE NO SC NO SENATE NO CONGRESS NO POLICE HELL NO COUNTRY!! EVERYBODY IS A SUSPECT!!

      3 WHAT WE DO NOW AND HOW WE HANDLE THIS CASE WILL SET THE TONE FOR HOW OTHER COUNTRIES TREAT US ON THE HIGH SEAS AND HOW FILIPINO ARE LOOKED AT IN THEIR COUNTRIES

      4 DE LIMA> There is excessive use of force if the 50 bullet holes found on the fishing vessel can be proven to have come from the firearms
      of PCG personnel > THEY WHERE–THEY SAID THE SHARPSHOOTERS FIRED AT THE ENGINE (REAR) BUT THE 50 BULLETS WHERE ALL FOUND TO HIT THE CABIN (FRONT)

      In its incident report submitted to the NBI, the PCG confirmed that
      its personnel left the site after firing at the fishing vessel without
      checking on the victim.
      BUT BUT I THOUGHT THEY WHERE OUT TO CATCH A VICIOUS POACHER–YET AFTER STRAFING THE OLD WOODEN BOAT THEY DID NOT CHECK FOR THE BIN LADEN OF THE HIGH SEAS? WHY SHOOT AND RUN???

  • freedom of navigation

    From day 1 blame has begun without verifying first. What is to expect in the end?

    • hello stupids

      from day 2 everything proof to be lie and cover up….we will have U accountable

  • hello stupids

    Filipinos slaves have a chance for freedom…how…with their attitude and knowledge

    1 all evidence proof that the killing occur in the overlapping EEZ of Taiwan and Philippines…that means the PCG have no right or what so ever to harass the Taiwanese fisherman

    2 it is the violation of the international law to firing anybody unarmed in any circumstance

    3 firing 108 rounds of massive destruction from machine gun is a killings..with or without warning

    4killing somebody in other people own EEZ is more than a killing it is an act of wars

  • Palparan

    to all who were offended by my use of the word “Chink”… fck u all…Chinks!

    wahahaha!

    • Sammy

      filipinos and south east asians are the blacks and mexicans of Asia. You guys make us all look bad.

      • https://www.facebook.com/jane.tan.3367174 Jane Tan

        Uhm… atleast the Mexicans who dominate the drug trade actually sell product to make a living. Filipinos just steal from their own countrymen.

      • Palparan

        and you chinks are the faggots of Asia… you mongoloid make us look bad

  • AlexanderAmproz

    Killing is the Philippines national sport

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