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Philippines asks China to explain ship deployment

MANILA, Philippines—The Philippines has asked China to explain its deployment of a patrol ship to guard potentially oil-rich islands and waters it claims in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea), saying the move has sparked new tensions over the disputed waters.

Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario said Chinese diplomats have told their Philippine counterparts that Beijing will only assert its claims, including by possibly intercepting foreign ships, in territorial waters off China’s southernmost province of Hainan.

Del Rosario said in a news conference Wednesday that the Philippines has asked China to specify the limits of the territory it will guard.

He said the territorial rifts are one of the issues he will discuss with his Japanese counterpart when they meet Thursday in Manila.

Japan’s own territorial feud with China has flared recently.


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  • opinyonlangpo

    Ask politely, it is a domestic issue.

  • truth_will_set_us_free

    Japan’s own territorial feud with China has flared recently.

  • TheStoicSenator

    All our goody-goody reactions to China were treated with high disregard and snubness. Should not govt now shift its behavior towards outrage and high level of disapproval? We should not be bullied…at least in the diplomatic front.

    • Kaizensigma

      The PHL was not bullied in the diplomatic front, it repeatedly and continue to make the wrong moves and over played its hand. Just like in a typical chess game it was checkmate time and time again.    

  • avmphil

    Not a dime worth talking to the Chinese on their deployment of vessels in the West Philippines Sea. As they have made it clear that the limitation is 12 nautical from Hainan, we rest. But what is moving behind our back is the clandestine deployment of armed patrol crafts near islets and rocks they deemed to be loaded with oil and gas. A habitual deception they practiced in ancient times. Hence their disarray and the result of today’s Chinese Diaspora.The Chinese are counting on a narrow ‘bruising ‘ with our Naval Forces to justify a counter response. A tactic they played at Scarborough Shoal. What we may, and should do, is to notify the Chinese Authorities that we will assert our maritime jurisdiction to stop, board and inspect any merchant vessels in suspect within our Exclusive Economic Zone and territorial waters in the West Philippines Sea. Beijing is aware our extreme shortfalls in equipment and resources in strategic deployment, thus it prides to dictate and master the waterways for the immediate, superficial gains

  • truth_will_set_us_free

    THE 50 CENTS CHINESE TROLLS ARE VERY FOND OF TELLING MYTHS AND LEGENDS.

    • Kaizensigma

      Napoleon in 1803, before he became emperor, said as he pointed to a map on China - ”Ici repose un géant endormi, laissez le dormir, car quand il s’éveillera, il étonnera le monde” – “here lies a sleeping giant, let him sleep, for when he wakes up, he will shock the world”.  

      • avmphil

        Couple of practiced French lines does not make you a Frenchman. Besides did you know what happen to Napoleon? That would be more’ shocking’ than the ‘sleeping giant’ who believes in tearing and consuming endangered creatures, that burrows, flies and swims even in the DARK.

      • Kaizensigma

        Who wants to be a frenchman today anyway, except if you want to make love all day long!!!!  Its indeed shocking that even the US National Intelligence Agency (NIA) recently came to the same conclusion that China has indeed risen and will overtake the US to become the largest world economy before the end of this decade. Hard to refute this especially if its coming from your old colonial white masssas??   

      • avmphil

        You spill full of baloney and dried crap. Since when did you become a spokes- person for those creepy masters in Beijing. For the last 3 decades your China had been building up its wealth from millions of dumb country workers. Now all of them know what cheap labor is and are scrambling for the good life for. For the West cheap labor is out of the window and so are their joint factories. They are going home to help their own kind. After all ‘those guys’ know China wants to be a power at their expenses. For your information, this decade will be the downfall of a big bully that had grown too big for its boots. Time to learn to tight your belly for less pay from your masters.

      • Kaizensigma

        I see you are better informed than the US National Intelligence Agency. Bravo, maybe you should share your information with them so they can admit their errors and make the necessary changes to their December 2012 reports regarding China which is the basis the US government and business use for their strategic planning. I am sure they will love to get hold of your expert opinions.   

      • Kaizensigma

        USA government is operating on a $1T deficit every year. Unless, the USA decisively confronts and effectively address its fiscal mess, I am afraid, it will slide further into the financial abyss. About $2.3T of its current federal debt of $16T is owed to China. At present, there is no political will to resolve the deficit. Sorry Pal, US politics is paralyzed and only action they were able to take is to kick the can further down as demonstrated in the recent last second fiscal cliff temporary stop gap solution.  On the other hand, China has tremendous foreign reserve, liquidity that will enable it to embark on the next phase of its 10 year economic plan which will de-emphasize export as the economic driver, and focus on domestic developments and consumption. So you see, as the yanks would like to say “the world ain’t seen nothing yet”!

      • vendetta07

         the U.S. is China’s biggest trading partner.  If the U.S. goes down, so does China.

      • pfc_kulapu

        Di ma gets ni kaizensigma (aka pokpokdaisy) yan

      • Kaizensigma

        The same goes for China, if china goes so goes the us economy along with the rest of the world’s economy. China is EU’s largest trading partner. It is one of Australia and Canada’s largest export market for their commodities. China is already the largest market for automobile. GM sells more cars in China than in USA market. China is what is keeping GM from going out of business!!!!!

      • pfc_kulapu

        re: “USA government is operating on a $1T deficit every year”

        - Let the US gov. solve their own problems..

        re: ” On the other hand, China has tremendous foreign reserve,”

        - But they can’t afford to build orphan shelter.
        - But they can’t afford to buy school buses for there student.. Last week news from china . orphan shelter run by private individual got fire, over loaded school van accident.

        china medical clinic same standard with phil…
        bwahahahahahah

        pokpokdaisy magtago kapa…

      • laluzcinco

        Shock and Awe would be more appropriate to describe it. Can anyone imagine that China would one day become the leading pioneer by, excelling all countries in the world and become the indisputable MASTER  OF FAKE PRODUCTS? There it is my friend, China with her Crowning glory for all the world to see.

      • Kaizensigma

        did you know that japan, taiwan and korea were once known as masters of producing fake and inferior products themselves? in the 1950-1960s japanese were copying and producing fake and inferior american and german products. And in the 1970-1980s, Taiwan and korea followed and started to copy and produce fake  and inferior german, japanese and american products. I am sure you must be shocked by this revelation!

      • vendetta07

        fortunately they moved up the value chain.  I can’t say the same for China

      • Kaizensigma

        China’s manufacturers are moving away from just being OEM manufacturer for other brands. In the past, China’s factory produce products for other famous name brand products from around the world. At the on-going 2013 CES convention in Las Vegas China unveiled its new strategy of moving away from just being an Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) to start marketing products with its own name brand. American consumers will begin to see familiar products (which in the past were stamp with other famous name brands) with Chinese branded names soon. This is the next step in its industrial value chain development. So you see you who cares about what you can or can’t say for china. The PHL market is not even a grain of sand in the overall scheme of the grand economic game. PHL GDP is peanuts compared to China’s $7-8T (that’s Trillion US$) GDP. Really, who cares about what you or the rest of your sorry and envious crowd thinks or can or can’t say. The proof is in the pudding, so to speak!

      • vendetta07

        “Really, who cares about what you or the rest of your sorry and envious crowd thinks or can or can’t say.”

        Obviously you since you took the time to post it.

        Citing a strategy at a convention doesn’t quite qualify as proof in the pudding.

        As of right now, China is primarily a low-cost manufacturer. Moving up the value chain in the future is anyone’s guess, but they will still have to contend with competition from those who reached it earlier like Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan.

        You can cite economic predictions, newspaper articles, hype, or whatever but the future is definitely not set in stone. For example Japan was famously predicted to overtake the U.S. but now they’re stuck in a rut that lasted a generation. Countries rise and fall, and not surprisingly millions of Chinas neighbors are eager to see China fall.

      • Kaizensigma

        Que sera sera, whatever will be will be, the future is not for us to see…..so true. We can debate and sometimes insult each other in this forum on what the future will be.  However, as a business strategist on the China market, I will take the US government, IMF, EUCB and Carnegie’s report as highly reliable to a certain extent to enable me to formulate my 2013 and beyond China market strategies. Same is true with most US and foreign government agencies. So I say, unless you have more reliable data and information to support your doomsday scenario, then lets see it. I should say, you can even make millions writing a book about it. Maybe you can be the next Gordon Chang. You can even write the next chapter to his outdated predictions. 

      • vendetta07

        I haven’t made a doomsday scenario since I don’t believe growth rates of less than 7 percent would be one. But if growth rates aren’t high enough then it might be doomsday for the communist party.

        It is more likely that Chinese growth will level off, ending decades of double-digit growth. The evidence is that this was true for the asian tiger economies and Japan. The early, ultra-high growth rates are attributed from starting from a low base. After a certain point, growth becomes more difficult as the economy becomes more developed.

        The other evidence comes from party members themselves when they described Chinese economic policy as ‘unsustainable’ as far back as 2007. Why do you think their new five-year economic plan is focused on raising domestic consumption as opposed to exports?

        I also rely on economic reports, but not on senseless, straight line predictions of more than five years into the future. Naturally some independent economic ‘prophets’ do it for the publicity or they have a stake in whatever they are trumpeting, and who is going to hold them accountable in ten years if their predictions don’t come true?

        Those reports you mentioned also mentioned India as a growing country, so by no means is China the only one. Some reports also cite the PH as becoming the 14th largest economy within a few decades.

        But getting back on topic. Personally, my problem isn’t the Chinese economy. My problem is with arrogant twats who believe that Chinese foreign policy is justified based on a growing economy instead of the rule of law. Who cares if their economy is growing, the point is does it make them right?

      • laluzcinco

        True, at one time or another the Countries you mentioned  were into making fake and inferior products.However it should be made clear to you that in more than 20 years Japan from 1960 to the midst 80′s made a big stride in quality manufactured products particularly in cars,cameras and all sorts of gadgetries.Taiwan and Korea were also both copiers and makers of fake products but it was short lived.In the case of China’s Open Policy in 1979, 34 years today (2013 ) still they are flooding the world with their fake inferior products. The worst part is they copy original designer brands and sell them as genuine.That alone says a lot  how Chinese operate.By far the Japanese have more class than them.From all indications Chinese are not about to abandon their fake product as long as they can fool  other people into buying them..So I say, China is still the number one maker of fake products.Case closed.

      • Kaizensigma

        China just concluded its 10 year economic development phase which culminated in positioning its industrial base. The next 10 year economic development phase is already underway. Although export will still be a driver, priority will shift to expansion of middle class, domestic development and consumption including heavy emphasis on creative development. Just like Mindanao, China’s interior is  virgin and ripe for economic development. All this will spurn and lead to maturity in intellectual property governance. Just like Japan, Korea and Taiwan, copy cats will become less and far between and eventually fade to oblivion. Such is the economic and industrial evolution of nations. 

        America and the rest of the world are having a great time because of inexpensive consumer products from China. That however is ending and the joy ride is coming over soon as China move from cheap labor to high value products. Shaun Rein detailed this in his book, The End of Cheap China which shows:  
        How rising labor and real estate costs are forcing manufacturers of cheap Chinese products to close, relocate, or move up the value stream
        How a restructuring economy moving away from exports to domestic consumption, and rising incomes will create opportunities for foreign brands to sell products in China rather than just producing there
        How Chinese consumption will build pressure on the global commodities markets, causing inflation and friction with other nations
        How China’s economic transformation spells the end of cheap consumption for Americans

        Maybe for you Case is closed, but for the rest of the world, the ride is just beginning. And if the Carnegie Endowment report is to be taken literally, China will drive the shifting of the world economic order from the west to Asia and in 20-30 years its GDP will double that of the USA.  So you see, you and the rest of the world “ain’t seen nothing yet”!  

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/W76YPENWLH6HJ65K2BFB75T3PI Andrew Pc

      you mean you are another 50 cents as well ?…very amusing indeed.

    • DakuAkongUtin

       Mangmangs of the PesoPeso Party of Phil Inquirer are very fond of telling the story of Mang Tengbang who always wins in the end inspite being no read and write.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AVRSWQTCWADVWA62MXAGV6MB6Y Chris

    SAGOT NG CHINA “WHO YU? 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/UNYUF4F3CFGIEXY4ENN7NTESDM Melstorm

      …Alam Nyo mga Kababayan ko…NAAAwa na ako sa bansa natin..sa totoo lang…sa corruption,,BALASUBAS na mga politiko…parang walang pinag aralan…Hindi na na awa sa bansa natin…dagdag mo pa dyan pulis sa pulis nagpapatayan…lalo na sa Spratlys…KUNG HINDI NYO KAYANG PROTEKSYON KUNG ANO ANG ATIN…PAANO NA KAMI MGA Individual na tao.????DADA KAYO NG DADA SA MEDIA..MAY SOLOSYON BHA?? WALA…KAYA KUNG AKO SA INYO GAWIN NYO ANG NARARAPAT SA ATING BANSA…AT KUNG HINDI NAMN kayang ipagtanggol ng governo ang pinas…e mabuti pa ibigay na ng Gobyerno ang spratlys, at ang buong pinas…Mga GANID,,walang silbi….

  • Meow Ming

    The Philippines support rearming of Japan

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/W76YPENWLH6HJ65K2BFB75T3PI Andrew Pc

      and also happy to provide another  900 kindergarten children for the Japanese bayonet live-target practice.

      • laluzcinco

        Please don’t forget to include the 70,000,000 MILLION Chinese Killed or Massacred by your great Leader Mao Tse Tung and his Henchmen in 1968-1978 COMMUNIST CULTURAL REVOLUTION.Being a Historical Fact, I am most certain,Commies will deny it. Oh! I forgot DENIAL, DENIAL and endless DENIALS  are the weapons best used by Commies when confronted with TRUTH.They just could not stand it.

      • Kaizensigma

        ……and the millions butchered by nipponese militarist 70 years ago and the millions of your  compatriots killed during the PHL-US war of 1898-1902, the genocide of millions of native american indians, the genocide of millions of mayans, incas, etc. etc. etc. But how many of your compatriots has China butchered or massacred?  

      • laluzcinco

        You are getting off the topic. I am only talking about the deeds done by the Japanese toward the Chinese, and what the Chinese Leader did to their own People. Nothing else! Do you understand.

      • Kaizensigma

        what ????? you can’t even discuss the deeds done by your nipponese militarist friends to your own people or the deeds of your old colonial white masters to your own people?????? how about the deeds of your roman catholic religion to the jewish people and their own during the spanish inquisition or how they were able to instill fear among your people for over 300 years by the mere threat of excommunication and using your own regional differences to subjugate and control, how about the deeds of your hero pres emi agi and his treachery of murdering your beloved hero andi boni and his brother? are these off topics too? so it is ok to be critical of your neighbor but not yourself or your friends? these are all historical facts too…….are you denying these????? Please don’t forget tooo or is it because you too cannot stand the TRUTH????.

      • pfc_kulapu

        american, they butchered native american indians for there people futures..
        japanese, they butchered chinese, filipino, korean and others asian for there empiror.
        But commies they butchered millions of there own people for there stupid ideology..

         Which leader is the most evil…TANGA
        Tanga , wag kang haharap sa dati mong kaaway. Harapin mo ang kasalukoyan mong kaaway..
        Tanga, Wag kang matakot sa dating baliw, Mayakot ka sa kasalukoyang baliw… BALIW KA..

        Gets mo..I doubt!!!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/W76YPENWLH6HJ65K2BFB75T3PI Andrew Pc

        Since when Mr. Mao became my great leader ?….i am not from China neither Philippines, so how ?
        China (long had learnt to accept the fact that she) can’t have everyone loving her, neither can Philippines, so just learn to accept the fact that there are always people around who prefer or look up to China (more) than Philippines { anyway, one some time wonders what Philippines can offer besides..seaman and domestic maid…and may be some patches of sandy beach ?..or may be how not to have law-enforcement officer killing each other or how not to train the infamous S(ir) W(e) A(in’t) T(rained)….maybe you can enlighten the rest }

    • Kaizensigma

      When I find myself in times of trouble, My FORMER MASTER and ENEMIES come to me
      Speaking words of wisdom, let it be
      And in my hour of darkness they are standing right in front of me
      Speaking words of wisdom, let it be
      Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be
      Whisper words of wisdom, let it be

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/W76YPENWLH6HJ65K2BFB75T3PI Andrew Pc

    Wow, Philippines is now acting like her white master ( or may be is just the proxy ? )

    • truth_will_set_us_free

      ANDREW, IF YOU WONT STOP TELLING LIES, I WILL RESURRECT CHAIRMAN MAO AND HIS CULTURAL REVOLUTION AND YOU WILL BE THE 1ST VICTIM. LOL

      I’M SURE YOU REMEMBER THE HORDE OF CANNIBALS & FANATIC OF CHAIRMAN MAO.

      • Kaizensigma

        Your usual ALL CAPS litany of ramblings…… 

      • laluzcinco

        Instead of making nonsense answer why don’t you make your rebuttal to what he said.Be a man face the music. Thinking that way will never set you free from bondage.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/W76YPENWLH6HJ65K2BFB75T3PI Andrew Pc

        I am not from China, so i won’t know …..”…cannibals & fanatic of Chairman Mao”..
        But, i do know the satanic atrocities committed by your beloved Japanese Imperial Army to the people of ASEAN…of course that includes Philippines….thousands were raped, butchered, bayoneted to death alive…and hundreds or may be thousands turned into comfort women which your beloved Japanese ridiculed recently of being better paid than their Imperial animals….with all respect, may be one of your family member was a victim , alas never mind you are the loving kind, quick to forgive (selectively though…forgiving only your beloved Japanese) and forget (selectively as well..)
        By the way, what make you so special that whatever you brag is the truth and otherwise for the rest…because you can forgive (selectively) ? LOL  

    • truth_will_set_us_free

      I’M SURE YOU REMEMBER THE HORDE OF CANNIBALS & FANATIC OF CHAIRMAN MAO.

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    you need a strong pilipino defense
    to fully accomplish this

    not under the saya of the imperialist defense

    1. stand up all present defense assets, yesterday
    don’t wait for new acquisitions
    use local industrial base

    2. acquire new defense assets
    that will also strengthen our industrial base

    3. mobile ssm sam radar equipment
    from batanes to balabac
    on high fortified elevations
    with ph assembled assets

    4. strengthen kalayaan ph islands
    against intsik switik takeover
    like in mischief

    5. integrate with vietnam brunei
    indonesia malaysia japan taiwan defense

    • Kaizensigma

      Hey Jobon, brilliant idea but to do so, you will first have to hand out millions of pesos as “gifts” (not bribe) to each of your senators to get their sign offs. Isn’t this how you get things done in PHL?

      • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

        same thing you do in the u.s.

        mas grabe nga lang dyan

        1% democracy
        controlled by the military-industrial complex

      • Kaizensigma

        So the end justify the means? Then let it be so…go ahead and hand out millions of pesos as gifts (not bribes) to each senators that sign off on your brilliant idea..at least you can get things done this way. Its a generally known and tolerated process anyway….right?

      • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

        ikaw nagsabi nyan

        para sa akin
        standup pilipino defense, yesterday
        ang prioridad

        nakatira ako sa pinas
        don’t have the luxury of
        just mouthing off

      • pfc_kulapu

        POkpokdaisy is that you….
        You make me laugh again…

      • laluzcinco

        Don’t be stingy with words. Gifts or Bribes or Tongs are all the same.They are interchangeable words learned from the Chinese who are considered The Master Bribers of Asia. 

      • Kaizensigma

        I c…sen enrile gift was actually a bribe as he insisted to call a spade a spade.

      • cunninghum

        a Crook as a Crook

      • Kaizensigma

        The senator that giveth and the ones that recieveth are crooks?

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/W76YPENWLH6HJ65K2BFB75T3PI Andrew Pc

        ..OK…now the argument is who is the worse of the 2 evils….the one who bribes (by your definition : China) or the one asked for the bribes (of course, it is the Philippines) ?
        ..so which come first…asking…or ..giving ?
        what say you ? 

      • laluzcinco

        No siree it is the giver ( China ) who is at fault.The giver or the initiator is usually driven by greed that if somehow he can bribe the receiver he would be able to double,or triple his imoney in exchange of the puny bribe he gave to the taker or receiver. And This is always the case in the Philippines where Politicians don’t become Billionaire like the bribing Chinese.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/W76YPENWLH6HJ65K2BFB75T3PI Andrew Pc

        Who can be sure that the one to give is always the one initiated and not the one demand ?…..let me help you with the answer….look at how much your law enforcement officer is taking home..and at the same time look at how many children they have….and to survive and living a “decent” life, one needs money…last heard, one can buy practically anything from the lawman in Philippines, even gun……need more examples ?

  • To_Be_Continued

    Philippines asks China to explain?!?!?!

    What is this a lovers’ quarrel?

    To ask China to “explain” is to give  China the chance to give us a lame and condescending excuse.

    Why not tell China straight the international and national laws it is violating. Why play the role of Asean weeping boy instead of a matured and responsible nation asserting its right to be respected by way of diplomatic communique or protest?

    I normally ask my boy whenever he comes late att night but I NEVER  ask an intruder in my property to explain why he is trespassing. I tell strangers straight: Get out of my property or I will call the police…

    • kalikasanipagtanggol

       Nagbabakasakali sila na mauuto nila sa pakiusap……hahaha hopeless and pathetic!



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