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Bigger US military role in Philippines sought

But talks exclude new bases

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Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin

The United States is planning the expansion of its military presence in the Philippines, including the stationing of US Navy ships on a temporary basis and the conduct of more frequent joint exercises, in response to China’s growing assertiveness in the Asia Pacific.

Philippine defense and military officials confirmed a Washington Post report on Thursday that the two countries were negotiating a deal that would increase cooperation between the two militaries, but stressed that the tension in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea) over the disputed Spratly Islands was only part of the equation.

Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin said the terms of such an agreement would still be dictated by the Visiting Forces Agreement, which allows the periodic visits of US troops for joint training and exercises.

“Well, first of all, it’s true that the United States wants to expand its presence in the region, which is why they will put up a base in Australia and station ships in Singapore. But in the Philippines, [it involves] exercises that will still be in accordance with our Visiting Forces Agreement,” Gazmin said.

On Thursday, the Washington Post reported that the United States, in talks with Philippine officials in Washington, was considering “operating Navy ships from the Philippines, deploying troops on a rotational basis and staging more frequent joint exercises,” among other options.

‘Political sensitivities’

“Under each scenario, US forces would effectively be guests at existing foreign bases,” the report said. The US daily quoted an unnamed senior Philippine official as saying that the American side was aware of “political sensitivities” surrounding such an agreement.

The report further discounted the possibility of the United States attempting to establish a permanent base some 20 years after the Philippine government rejected a new bases treaty and evicted US forces from their naval base in Subic, Zambales province, the United States’ biggest base in the Pacific.

Asked to comment, Department of Foreign Affairs spokesperson Raul Hernandez said he was still awaiting Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario’s input on the issue.

There was no comment from Malacañang at press time.

Many factors

The negotiation for such a deal was prompted by many factors, and the tension in the West Philippine Sea with China over claims on the disputed Spratlys was only part of it, according to defense spokesperson Peter Paul Galvez.

“There are many factors, including our position on [maintaining] freedom of navigation and taking a multilateral approach and a rules-based approach in resolving the dispute in the West Philippine Sea,” Galvez said.

The Spratlys, a chain of tiny islands and reefs believed to be rich in resources, lie near the Philippine province of Palawan.

The chain is claimed wholly or partly by the Philippines, China, Malaysia, Brunei, Vietnam and Taiwan.

In 2002, the claimants signed the Declaration of Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea, which was to serve as a nonbinding guideline on how to tackle the disputes. But tension has escalated in recent months, with the Philippines and China trading barbs on the latter’s alleged incursions into the former’s territory.

The Armed Forces of the Philippines said the discussions between the Philippines and the United States showed that “the partnership between our two countries’ armed forces remains healthy, dynamic and beneficial.”

“It continues to highlight the unswerving commitment of our security forces toward a more secure Asia-Pacific region,” said the AFP public affairs chief, Colonel Arnulfo Marcelo Burgos Jr.

He said the Philippine military was looking forward to more joint bilateral exercises and undertakings, such as the annual Balikatan exercises, the Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training, and the Balance Piston exercises.

‘Light footprint’

The Washington Post report quoted Philippine and US officials as saying that they were “favorably inclined toward a deal.”

Meetings were supposedly scheduled late this week “before higher-level meetings in March.”

“The strategic talks with the Philippines are in addition to feelers that the Obama administration has put out to other Southeast Asian countries, including Vietnam and Thailand, about possibly bolstering military partnerships,” the report said.

But “instead of trying to establish giant bases reminiscent of the Cold War, Pentagon officials said they want to maintain a light footprint,” the report said.

“We have no desire nor any interest in creating a US-only base in Southeast Asia,” said Robert Scher, a deputy assistant secretary of defense who oversees security policy in the region.

“In each one of these cases, the core decision and discussion is about how we work better with our friends and allies. And the key piece of that is working from their locations.” With reports from Tina Santos and Christine O. Avendaño

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  • Anonymous

    Should we first review if VFA has been working as planned? It was justified as the solution to the Abu Sayyaf problem way back in 1998. Is the Abu Sayyaf problem licked?

    Also, should we first review if US is capable of winning wars? After WW II, when did US win decisively, i.e. few lives lost for victory (if at all)? Was it in Vietnam? Was it in Somalia? Was it in Cuba?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FVBPRR4NKZ2DFURBCD5I4Q5GN4 Leg

    maglalabas na naman ng MILYONES na funding si PNoy (at China nyang mahal) para sa mga aktibista!….cge rally na kayo!!!…mga traydor!…tulad kayo ng amo nyong panot.

  • Anonymous

    When there was a US Base in the Philippines, the Americans paid the Philippines by around USD $ 1 Billion annually just to have a base here. Now, it’s still the same story but this time, it’s the Philippines who’s paying for the base to stay.

    Oh yes, the times have changed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FVBPRR4NKZ2DFURBCD5I4Q5GN4 Leg

    madaling malaman mga traydor at China lovers dito sa comment section:
      1. Pinoy na pinoy ang pangalan.
      2. May larawan at imahe na makabansa daw.
      3. Ipinapahid lahat ng problema sa mga rebelde doon sa US (eh, China naman ang nagbigay ng funding). heheh

  • Anonymous

    only in vietnam . they loss. Not in Iraq, not in afganisthan

  • Anonymous

    only in vietnam  they loss. Not in Iraq, not in afganisthan not against alqaeda, they killed bin ladin. what more concrete evidence do you want?????

  • Anonymous

    only in vietnam  they loss. Not in Iraq, not in afganisthan not against alqaeda, they killed bin ladin. what more concrete evidence do you want?????

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FVBPRR4NKZ2DFURBCD5I4Q5GN4 Leg

    ang tunay na mensahe ni INQ_reader ay sa china ang loyalty nya?
    Swerte ang Pinas at nag-stay dito ang US military after WW!!…kung hindi…pag-aari na ito ng China…gaya ng nangyari sa TIBET…at minority nalang ang mga Pilipino….oh wait, minority naman talaga kahit sa panahong ito…dumarami yata mga intsik dito ah….tsk tsk.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FVBPRR4NKZ2DFURBCD5I4Q5GN4 Leg

    isnt it time to kick the chinese out of Pinas?…we all knw China is a big threat and the chinese are already INVADING our country NOT FROM the OUTSIDE BUT FROM the INSIDE..they’re already HERE! …better kick them out now like what Papua/Fiji did.

  • Anonymous

    Philippines needs the US of A and US of A doesn’t need  the Philippines as clear as the sun rise in the east and set in the west.
    It was the 12 senators who voted for the kicking of the USA base here. If I remember correct estrada josep, enrile, orlando mercado, aquilino pimentel,salonga, rene saguisag, victor siga, ernesto maceda, sotero laurel, agapito aquino. and two more I can’t remember.And if yopu will asked the stupid 12 senators for their passport they are either holder of of multiple entry visa to the states or maybe they are holder of green card. What a bunch of hypocrite. Fuuuuuccccking 12 senators, They have wreck the very fiber of the Philippin economy.

    The abrogation of the base treaty has resulted into the philippine ECONOMY ON A TAILSPIN.

  • Anonymous

    approve sakin sa pumasok ang mga AMERCANO sa pinas  kasi halata na masyado ang Gobyerno ni pinoy na kumikiling sa CHINA at namamayagpag na ang mga makakaliwa sa pamahalaan. sa Panahon ni Cory kaya naghirap ang Bayan, ng paalisin ang Base militar ng AMERCANO tignan natin kung ang MONOPOLYA NG  yellow brigade katuwang ng mga makakaliwan ang sya maghari pa.GISING  BAYAN  TAMA NA ANG PANLILINLANG NG AQUINO/COJUANCO /LOPEZ…..

  • Anonymous

    USA has the ability to implement the UNCLOS so it doesnt bother me at all. USA must stay in Philippines to protect us from bullish China. It is only the third world country like Philippines who doesnt understand why we need USA. AUstralia and SIngapore as the first world country knows one simple reason why they have a US base.

    In short, China is already here spreading all over the major University such as UP to hate against USA and financing activities of illegal drugs, prostitutions, fake products, toxic products, illegal lumber, etc. etc.

  • Anonymous

    Who is paying? The Philippines? With what money and where is it coming from? Can you please enlighten us. Thanks. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FVBPRR4NKZ2DFURBCD5I4Q5GN4 Leg

    Korean War: China + NK _vs_ US + Pinas + SK + other allies.

    Oh well, the exploitations by US in Pinas can be seen BUT that of China is invisible (that makes Pinas, its people always at a disadvantage). 

  • Anonymous

    approve sakin sa pumasok ang mga AMERCANO sa pinas  kasi halata na masyado ang Gobyerno ni pinoy na kumikiling sa CHINA at namamayagpag na ang mga makakaliwa sa pamahalaan. sa Panahon ni Cory kaya naghirap ang Bayan, ng paalisin ang Base militar ng AMERCANO tignan natin kung ang MONOPOLYA NG  yellow brigade katuwang ng mga makakaliwan ang sya maghari pa.GISING  BAYAN  TAMA NA ANG PANLILINLANG NG AQUINO/COJUANCO /LOPEZ…..

  • Anonymous

    Who is paying? The Philippines? With what money and where is it coming from? Can you please enlighten us. Thanks. 

  • Anonymous

    approve sakin sa pumasok ang mga AMERCANO sa pinas  kasi halata na masyado ang Gobyerno ni pinoy na kumikiling sa CHINA at namamayagpag na ang mga makakaliwa sa pamahalaan. sa Panahon ni Cory kaya naghirap ang Bayan, ng paalisin ang Base militar ng AMERCANO tignan natin kung ang MONOPOLYA NG  yellow brigade katuwang ng mga makakaliwan ang sya maghari pa.GISING  BAYAN  TAMA NA ANG PANLILINLANG NG AQUINO/COJUANCO /LOPEZ…..

  • Anonymous

    approve sakin sa pumasok ang mga AMERCANO sa pinas  kasi halata na masyado ang Gobyerno ni pinoy na kumikiling sa CHINA at namamayagpag na ang mga makakaliwa sa pamahalaan. sa Panahon ni Cory kaya naghirap ang Bayan, ng paalisin ang Base militar ng AMERCANO tignan natin kung ang MONOPOLYA NG  yellow brigade katuwang ng mga makakaliwan ang sya maghari pa.GISING  BAYAN  TAMA NA ANG PANLILINLANG NG AQUINO/COJUANCO /LOPEZ…..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FVBPRR4NKZ2DFURBCD5I4Q5GN4 Leg

    Alam ni PNoy ang long-term plans ng China…kaya nga nagpunta yan mismo doon sa China para kunin ang updates….mahirap pag via phone/internet baka ma-Wikileaks! hehehe 

  • Anonymous

    Kawawang mga inutil. Forever humahalik sa puwit kahit na sinasampal pa. Kung ganyan ang gagawin sa sarili, Urong ang bayag at di makatayo sa sariling paa. Eh talagang hindi rerespetuhin sa mundo. Kaya binabastos, ginagahasa, inaapi at binibitay na walang kalaban l-laban ang mga Pilipino sa ibang bansa.

  • Anonymous

  • Anonymous

    You don’t need the US to provide a military presence there.You are right they haven’t won any wars since WWII. It is really hard to win in a limited war where you take into consideration civilians mingling with combatants and wars that were run by politicians. Besides the US military is downsizing. There are more pressing problems in the US like the economy. The civilian populace here is fed up with wars and the leadership is under the gun to get all the troops home. 
    The US Navy’s 7th Fleet will continue to patrol the whole Pacific region not because of the Philippines dispute with China but as part of it’s continued effort to protect its interest overseas. The war in terrorism is waning and the Philippines is the last thing on the minds of US policy makers. China is the US number one creditor and exporter so it is really a myth that they will take on China and vice versa. Both countries benefit from each other. Let the Philippines take care of its own problems since any intervention will make the Filipinos wary and take it as an imperialistic move by the US. Filipinos are proud that they can stand on their own anyway without any foreign help so why now? They kick out the US bases right. To be fair even if the Phil congress decided to let the bases stay the US will move out eventually due to the end of the cold war and the enormous cost of operating and maintaining a base there. Japan and South Korea are two exceptions.In my opinion the Philippines need to worry about their domestic problems first and make it first and foremost to create jobs locally rather than relying on their overseas workers to provide the bulk of the revenue for the economy. As much as you want to assert your independence you are fully dependent on other countries to provide a a livelihood for your citizens. It’s a shame.

  • Anonymous

    You don’t need the US to provide a military presence there.You are right they haven’t won any wars since WWII. It is really hard to win in a limited war where you take into consideration civilians mingling with combatants and wars that were run by politicians. Besides the US military is downsizing. There are more pressing problems in the US like the economy. The civilian populace here is fed up with wars and the leadership is under the gun to get all the troops home. 
    The US Navy’s 7th Fleet will continue to patrol the whole Pacific region not because of the Philippines dispute with China but as part of it’s continued effort to protect its interest overseas. The war on terrorism is waning and the Philippines is the last thing on the minds of US policy makers. China is the US number one creditor and exporter so it is really a myth that they will take on China and vice versa. Both countries benefit from each other. Let the Philippines take care of its own problems since any intervention will make the Filipinos wary and take it as an imperialistic move by the US. Filipinos are proud that they can stand on their own anyway without any foreign help so why now? They kick out the US bases right. To be fair even if the Phil congress decided to let the bases stay the US will move out eventually due to the end of the cold war and the enormous cost of operating and maintaining a base there. Japan and South Korea are two exceptions.In my opinion the Philippines need to worry about their domestic problems first and make it first and foremost to create jobs locally rather than relying on their overseas workers to provide the bulk of the revenue for the economy. As much as you want to assert your independence you are fully dependent on other countries to provide a a livelihood for your citizens. It’s a shame.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BHMEX5BFO3MOXZ7K2MP6NNGSW4 dark

    ok yan, sana gawin na lang tayong US teritorry

  • Anonymous

    Oo nga eh! bastos din kasi yung mga intsik na dumadalaw sa pinas! wala naman ginagawa sa pinas kundi magtayo ng Shabu lab!

  • Anonymous

    hurray, i would surely welcome it so these abusive chinese will not anymore step on our territory.

  • Anonymous

    bahphotog: wake up from your stupor. Or are you daydreaming?

  • Mamang Pulis

    totoo sinabi mo sir.  pero sa laro ng pulitika eh wla tayong magagawa.  Isa pa-Siguro kung kasing yaman na natin sa langis  tulad ng mga kapitbahay tulad ng Malaysia, maari na tayong sumampal ng magkabilang palad….sampal ha…hindi yun naka taas palad at nanghihingi.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GUZISWUMVDD5QJUC7GBJKEM7XA prangka

    I have no problem with US staying here.  They are our allies.  We look each at others out. I trust US than China who double talks in Spratly’s issue.

  • http://twitter.com/Perdition2012 Rey Gan

    That’s welcome news.  Those chronic complainers known as Bayanmuna must be freaking out at this very moment. Mag paplanking na naman mga yan sa harap ng us embassy, akala mo kung sino inaaapi.  Gimme a break!

  • Anonymous

    napipikon na ang mga aktebest! ahahhahaha

  • Mamang Pulis

    totoo sinabi mo sir.  pero sa laro ng pulitika eh wla tayong magagawa.  Isa pa-Siguro kung kasing yaman na natin sa langis  tulad ng mga kapitbahay tulad ng Malaysia, maari na tayong sumampal ng magkabilang palad….sampal ha…hindi yun naka taas palad at nanghihingi.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FAVMFPH7TJBBEW5JBVJ5HVAAIA Sankula

    Yan ang kagaguhan ng mga pnoy sa paghalal ng mga politikos/senador natin. Nandyan na ang bases nagmamalaki pa pinaalis. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Q22MVBMD72EYDSKKCLNT2TNU5M Maria

    And your point is? Most of what you said are true, and all filipinos know about it. There is nothing wrong to assert one country’s independence, because IT’S THEIR COUNTRY, all countries are like that. After the US bases left more than 2 decades ago the americans arrogantly thought PHL will not make it but look both bases are sources of economic income for the country. Have you been to these 2 bases lately? Clark is now an international airport and Subic is the second largest shipping yard in the world. They’re generating a lot of local jobs.
    As much as PHL wants to concentrate on their domestic problems, the main problem in the PHL are corrupt politicians. Albeit some politicians did good for the country as it explored more countries other than US for foreign trades i.e., Australia, China, ASEAN of course, Japan, Korea, European and South American countries. This was ANOTHER reason why PHL WAS NOT affected by the recent collapsed of US economy. PHL is more diversified or say more global, in smaller scale say the least but more important lesson learnt was that “when the US sneeze PHL no longer catches the cold.” Although slowly PHL is improving.
    Global economies are dependent to each other. US is now dependent in China, China depends on every nations who imports their cheap products, Europe depends heavily on tourism that’s why they have to accommodate China and Asian tourists now US is in long recession, the entire world depends on OPEC countries, world depends on US technology and arms, countries needs skillful human resources are provided by PHL, and so on and so forth. Switzerland was once poor and heavily dependent on their overseas workers remittances and went back home to help and contribute to their country, same thing on what’s going on with PHL. 
    Most of the countries in the old civilization became slaves like Jewish, Greeks, Spanish, Africans, at least PHL workers are being paid. That’s life, we have to do what we’ve got to do.
    US is NOT INTERESTED in fighting for Filipinos, PHL is only in the best geo-political strategic location in Asia FOR their/US own economic interest. Why would they spend if they will not get MORE?
    Your point? You’re just being an arrogant pretentious american. The whole world need each other whether we like it or not. It’s an absolute Sine Qua Non.
    One way or another PHL is likeTaiwan, they want to be independent from China but they they can’t. Somehow filipinos know we will be colonized of either the West or China BUT NOT WITHOUT A FIGHT! Despite of the foreseeable lost AT LEAST WE’LL   GIVE A PERFECT TRY. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE HEARTS OF FILIPINOS, we are good natured but WE FIGHT LIKE REAL MEN! Ask the American soldiers during the Spanish-US War.

  • Anonymous

    meron tayong magagawa. huwag na muna tayong gumastos sa mga walang kwentang programa at kahit papaano mag umpisa. matuto tayong tumayo sa sarili. pwede tayong kumapit sa umpisa pero hindi dapat magpa karga habang buhay. 

    palagay ko yan ang gusto ng US at ayaw nilang bumili tayo ng F-16 para lagi na lang tayong aasa at lagi nila tayong madikdiktahan.

    at bakit tayo bibili ng sampung F-16 kung yung pera pwede nating gamitin ipambili ng teknolohiya at ng tulong na galing sa iba (Northrop o Saab o Dassault) para makagawa ng sarili. Yan ang ginawa ng Singapore at Taiwan at ngayon ginagawa ng Indonesia at Vietnam.

  • Anonymous

    meron tayong magagawa. huwag na muna tayong gumastos sa mga walang kwentang programa at kahit papaano mag umpisa. matuto tayong tumayo sa sarili. pwede tayong kumapit sa umpisa pero hindi dapat magpa karga habang buhay. 
    palagay ko yan ang gusto ng US at ayaw nilang bumili tayo ng F-16 para lagi na lang tayong aasa at lagi nila tayong madikdiktahan.

    at bakit tayo bibili ng sampung F-16 kung yung pera pwede nating gamitin ipambili ng teknolohiya at ng tulong galing sa iba (Northrop o Saab o Dassault) para makagawa ng sarili. Yan ang ginawa ng Singapore at Taiwan at ngayon ginagawa ng Indonesia at Vietnam.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZKFFZIBHJ7N6OY6KYVOEC43WEM Art M

    Most of these activists would jump at the chance to migrate to the US if allowed and yet, they shout to the world that they are anti-American.  But a lot of them applied for a visa, and were denied. 

  • Anonymous

    It makes sense to bring in Big Brother if you’re being bullied. Nothing wrong with that.
    At least the bully stops dead on his tracks and realizes that he can’t pick on the small
    guy anymore without getting a blackeye! So he will be more responsive to talking than
    fighting.

  • Anonymous

    Very correct. At kapag may problema saan tatakbo  “US AID”. Ang Pilipinas kasama sa annual budget ng US iyong sinasabing US Aid. Kaya ang lobbyist ng Pilipinas sa US Cngress ay ang Ambassador…Ngayon alam na ninyo!

  • Anonymous

    The United States has allocated a total of $667 million in foreign assistance to the Philippines, despite the latter’s proud declaration of independence.  The question is: how is this foreign aid to the Philippines being spent?

  • Anonymous

    And the Big-brother also bullies the Small brother, ordering him around and eating part of his lunch and don’t care if he’s hungry so that he can’t grow to fight for himself.

  • Anonymous

    Kung papayagan uli mag base ang mga kano dito sa pinas uso na naman ang ” my brother is not a pig”

  • Anonymous

    Too late. They are your next door neighbor already, and like it or not you are doing business with them every day.

  • Anonymous

    Big brother has limits in helping small brother. Just so he can’t be on the receiving end of bully’s punches but Big brother fights for small brother while small brother watches and roots for Big brother to win the altercation. Then small brother can work in peace and makes money for himself so he doesn’t ask from Big brother.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry duplicated….

  • Anonymous

    Nice try but its too late now the oil in Western Philippines Sea that was discovered in 1971 is ready for harvest, China will do it 3 years from now marked my word.

  • Anonymous

    China still the big bully! They come to the Philippines, put up businesses, hires filipino workers and their workers receives pay an amount never even reached the minimum salary set by Philippine Law. Kumpara mo sa sa mga American capitalist na nag invest sa pinas,tama pa ang buwis na binabayaran sa BIR at tama pa mga sahod na natatanggap ng mga empleyado nila…….. Marami pa mga Chinese, Shabu lab owner, hawak ang mga provinicial directors ng PNP at talagang di mahuhuli!

  • Anonymous

    he-he-he. di kasalanan ng intsik…tatanga-tanga ang mga nagpapapasok sa kanila. kahit sa amerika, sa africa, superstar sila ngayon dahil sila ang marunong magnegosyo.

    Intel Corp. nilayasan tayo at pumunta sa China at Vietnam. Bakit kamo? Wala raw silang mapapala sa atin! Fedex Corp, ganun din….ano pa? pinigilan ang mga nurses natin…..at susunod….bibitawan ang mga call center. Ang Pinoy naman, walang bayag, halik pa rin sa puwit. 

  • Anonymous

    Official says Beijing has ‘historical rights’ over South China Sea (2012-January-26)
    ==========================================================

    BEIJING–China is claiming jurisdiction over most areas of the South China Sea, including waters off the coast of the Philippines and Vietnam.Beijing is pressing its claims with its southern neighbors as it steps up its maritime activities in the region.

    Wu Shicun, president of the National Institute for South China Sea Studies, a think tank
    affiliated with the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs that is based in Haikou, Hainan province, explained the rationale for Beijing’s territorial claims during an interview with The Asahi Shimbun.

    Excerpts from the interview follow:

    ***
    Question: What is the meaning of the rights of jurisdiction that China claims over the South China Sea?

    Wu: Some argue that the entire marine area, which is called the “cow’s tongue” because of its geographical shape, should belong to China. That sounds forced, however, and that is not Beijing’s official viewpoint. The widely accepted view (in China) is that of a demarcation line for islands. That view holds that all islands lying within the “cow’s tongue” belong to China, and that China has “historical rights,” including fishing rights, over the surrounding waters.

    Q: What do you mean by “historical rights”?
    A: I personally believe that the most important thing is to preserve the “fishing rights.” Fishermen first discovered and used the Spratlys and other islands. I am referring to the rights they have accumulated. They also include navigation rights and priority rights for
    resources development. They are not necessarily exclusive rights.

    Q: China’s southern neighbors are claiming their own rights on the basis of provisions on exclusive economic zones and continental shelves in the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.

    A: The Spratly Islands belonged to China even before the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea took effect. The question is about which country the islands belong to. It has nothing to do with discussions over continental shelves. The convention defines the issue of the rights of jurisdiction, but it is not enough to solve the South China Sea issue. It is necessary to look at many other international laws on territorial issues (that form a basis for the rights of
    jurisdiction).

    Q: China claims rights over a natural extension of its continental shelf in the East China Sea, but does not recognize Vietnam’s rights over its continental shelf in the South China Sea. Isn’t that inconsistent?

    A: Some make that point even in China, but the issues of the East China Sea and of the South China Sea should be dealt with separately. There is no need for unity (in China’s
    arguments). Territorial disputes are not only about international law but are also about how to maximize national interests. Every country wants to maximize its own national interests.

    Q: There could be no end to discussions on who first discovered and developed an island, don’t you think?

    A: No government can afford to concede amid the rise of nationalist sentiment in respective countries. There is no way but to aim for a gradual solution while seeking appropriate timing.

  • Anonymous

    SANYA, (HAINAN) China–A senior officer of the Chinese South Sea Fleet’s
    submarine force said all the torpedoes its crews launched in training
    in 2011 hit their targets, according to the PLA Daily, the newspaper of
    the Chinese People’s Liberation Army, on Dec. 13.

    A three-stage
    South China Sea strategy developed last year by the Central Military
    Commission, the PLA’s top decision-making body, is putting the
    military’s iron fist behind the hard-line rhetoric.

    In
    the first stage, China would control a sea lane and secure an area where
    free navigation is guaranteed for its nuclear missile submarines.

    In the second stage, it would explore oil and natural gas.

    In the final stage, China would eliminate the influence of the
    U.S. military and erode the will of Southeast Asian countries to counter
    China, turning the South China Sea into an “off-limits” area.

    The strategy also aims at maintaining a counteroffensive
    capability against a nuclear attack by deploying submarines loaded with
    nuclear missiles in deep water in the South China Sea.

    Many Chinese people appear to support the approach.

    According to an online survey by the Global Times, which
    isaffiliated with the People’s Daily, 83 percent of about 23,000
    respondents cited “military power” as a way to resolve the South China
    Sea issue.

    The South China Sea’s oil reserves are
    estimated to be 23 billion to 30 billion tons, accounting for one-third
    of China’s entire oil reserves, according to an internal paper compiled
    by the Ministry of Land and Resources.

    “It is one of the
    world’s four largest offshore oil fields,” Dong Xiucheng, professor at
    the China University of Petroleum, said. “We must embark on aggressive
    development.”

  • Anonymous

    SANYA, (HAINAN) China–A senior officer of the Chinese South Sea Fleet’s submarine force said all the torpedoes its crews launched in training in 2011 hit their targets, according to the PLA Daily, the newspaper of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army, on Dec. 13.

    A three-stage South China Sea strategy developed last year by the Central Military
    Commission, the PLA’s top decision-making body, is putting the military’s iron fist behind the hard-line rhetoric.

    In the first stage, China would control a sea lane and secure an area where free navigation is guaranteed for its nuclear missile submarines.

    In the second stage, it would explore oil and natural gas.

    In the final stage, China would eliminate the influence of the U.S. military and erode the will of Southeast Asian countries to counter China, turning the South China Sea into an “off-limits” area.

    The strategy also aims at maintaining a counteroffensive capability against a nuclear attack by deploying submarines loaded with nuclear missiles in deep water in the South China Sea.

    Many Chinese people appear to support the approach.

    According to an online survey by the Global Times, which isaffiliated with the People’s Daily, 83 percent of about 23,000 respondents cited “military power” as a way to resolve the South China Sea issue.

    The South China Sea’s oil reserves are estimated to be 23 billion to 30 billion tons, accounting for one-third of China’s entire oil reserves, according to an internal paper compiled
    by the Ministry of Land and Resources.

    “It is one of the world’s four largest offshore oil fields,” Dong Xiucheng, professor at
    the China University of Petroleum, said. “We must embark on aggressive development.”

  • Anonymous

    China still the big bully! They come to the Philippines, put up businesses, hires filipino workers and their workers receives pay an amount never even reached the minimum salary set by Philippine Law. Kumpara mo sa sa mga American capitalist na nag invest sa pinas,tama pa ang buwis na binabayaran sa BIR at tama pa mga sahod na natatanggap ng mga empleyado nila…….. Marami pa mga Chinese, Shabu lab owner, hawak ang mga provinicial directors ng PNP at talagang di mahuhuli!

  • Anonymous

    Ang America kasi may domestic investment…..Ang Pinas, nag dedepende lang sa foreign investment. Nung nag boom pa ang america, talagang naging greedy talaga ang mga capitalista, naghanap ng paraan para makatipid at kumita, kaya yun ang bunga ng BPO. Pati rin naman sa Pinas, pag napansin nila na ang banyaga ang binibigyan ng pwesto—welga kaagad….. tanga na nga nagpapasok sa mga intsik, abusado pa ang mga intsik! sino ngayon ang bully niyan? hehehehhe

  • Anonymous

    We don’t need them fighting our wars forever. We need to start building our defenses little by little moving forward. We should not go backwards being more dependent than ever.

    Do you know that we used to have the most fighter aircraft in Southeast Asia in the 1960s? We had 30 F-5. Then they were slowly abandoned over the years because of over dependence on the US to protect us. Now we have 5 of those fighters, airworthy, but they are decommissioned.

    On the other hand, Singapore and Taiwan embarked on a program to acquire the technology to refurbish and upgrade their F5s or build their own. Now they have more than enough. F-5s (E/F variant) are US$2.5 million each. They are still very effective and can be upgraded to F-5G which is the same as F-20 and still effective for defense.

    If US wants to help us, I’d rather they help us learn to equip ourselves. For example, I’d rather they sell us through loan the US$1.2B F-20 Tigershark program which they finished in the 1980s (same time as F-16) but did not use. We could really use it.

    If they want to station in any Spratly’s Island, I don’t care. But the least thing they should do is to allow us to buy and learn the technology from Northrop or General Dynamics. Otherwise, screw them, let the others like Sweden (Saab) or France (Dassault) partner with us instead. They would appreciate the business opportunity.

  • Anonymous

    Its about time…bring back the US bases!

  • Anonymous

    Hhahahaha! Mag aalburuto na naman mga makakaliwang grupo nito…Magwawala na naman sa mendiola sina teddy casino at satur ocampo…hahahahaha!

  • Anonymous

    kaya huwag tayong magpa-bully at huwag magpa-abuso. kung gusto nilang pumunta sa atin, magbayad sila. dapat ang bayad ay teknolohiyang pang depensa.

  • Anonymous

    Its about time…bring back the US bases!

  • Anonymous

    Hhahahaha! Mag aalburuto na naman mga makakaliwang grupo nito…Magwawala na naman sa mendiola sina teddy casino at satur ocampo…hahahahaha!

  • Anonymous

    Hhahahaha! Mag aalburuto na naman mga makakaliwang grupo nito…Magwawala na naman sa mendiola sina teddy casino at satur ocampo…hahahahaha!

  • Anonymous

    We need US bases, it will boost our economy back. Well wether you like it or not it is the US investors that can give much high paid employment to us not the Filipinos or shall we call semi-Filipino but Chinese in reality.

  • Anonymous

    i say yes. present day reality dictates need for the american bases in the philippines more than ever.

  • Anonymous

    Nung nakaraang administrasyon kasi, imbis hardware dapat ang ibibigay ng US, napakiusapan nalang ni Gloria at Angelo Reyes na tanggapin ang Aid sa pamamagitan ng “cash”……Kasi, kaya naman daw ng AFP sa kanilang tactics ang terrorismo, wala nga lang daw silang cash!  Dinagdagan pa ng mga lagay mula sa mga Chinese, kaya hayun, yumaman sila Angie at rabusa!

  • Anonymous

    Reasons why US will not base in the Philippines

    1. US policy is to decrease their overseas military presence.2. Economy situation of the US. They are also reducing their Armed Forces size. 3. The Philippines is so unstable, it would be a costly and humiliating risk for them to experience being kicked out the second time.

  • Anonymous

    on the basis of the mutual defense treaty with the USA, the Ph is required to host any US Forces in its territory at least in a non permanent way(s); if the area is Palawan, then they should be allowed any part of that area, OK? of course there be a joint force with the Ph. military. he. he. he!

  • Anonymous

    Pati nga si Erap na bumoto sa pag papaalis ng US bases sa Clark at Subic, eh binalik niya rin sa pamamagitan Visiting Forces Agreement! ehheheheh…..In all his policies that his administration  brought up, VFA lang ako sumang-ayon…

  • Anonymous

    NON OF THE ABOVE, he, he, he, OK? try to check the MDT of the Ph and the USA, then make a concise opinion, ok?

  • Anonymous

    The US will not setup new bases. Read this at foxnews website today:

    “WASHINGTON –  Defense Secretary Leon Panetta unveiled a plan Thursday that would cut nearly a half-trillion dollars from the defense budget over the next decade by retiring older planes and ships, delaying some projects and shrinking U.S. ground forces by about 100,000….”

    They will just increase their ability to strike from aircraft carriers and existing bases. 

    Hmmm. We should offer to buy their older planes and ships….Their old is not too old for our purpose.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t you think  the government should  have second thought about it? Are we inviting trouble and bloodshed?

    What we need is peace and cooperation toward prosperity in our region instead of mistrust and wars. We can not even resolve the war in Mindanao with the Muslim rebels, and the sporadic rebellious activity of the NPA.

    Now we want to invite other super power to interfere in this region and being squeezed between the two giants. Don’t we have lesson in Subic Bay and Clark Airbase during the Vietname war. Do we want to be another Pakistan?

    Most aids coming from US in agreement with a military partner are siphoned by the nation’s top leaders such as Pres. Marcos before. Seldom do they really end up for the people and the development of the country.

    Think, think, think! Don’t let greed blur up your vision.

  • Anonymous

    P-Noy is the American stooge. P-Noy’s campaign even boasted about this during the 2010 presidential elections. It’s time to pay the piper.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    I agree with this plan of US trying to aid us. We have to protect our sovereignty and prestige against threats and intimidation of China, who is aggressively attacking our ships even in the NON contested islands. We should hold our ground against China. Why is it when China attacks us, no one seems to care? But when US is trying to help us, every one gets angry? Remember that China is still a communist country and is waiting for its opportunity to resurrect the fallen communism movement when USSR was dissolved in the 1980s.

  • Anonymous

    The whole Spratly Islands lies within the territory of the Philippines. It does not belong to China, Vietnam, Malaysia or Indonesia. Basically, none of them can not claim for it because of their geographical locations (they are too far to owned it). 

  • Anonymous

    I support this move to have a joint US-Philippine base specially in the West Philippine sea. We cannot stand alone against the big bully, China.

  • JJF724

    yes to US PH Military

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    You’re right. BUT CHINA IS AGGRESSIVELY ATTACKING by sending ships and firing at our ships (not only ours, but also Vietnam’s ships). China, instead of negotiating, is BULLYING OUR COUNTRY and the other nations because they think they are the foremost power in the region. Good thing that Noy stood up for the right of the Philippines not to be bullied. Therefore, US aiding us is a good plan to thwart China’s attack on the sovereignty and prestige of our country. I ask again: Why is when China ATTACKS us, almost NO ONE seems to care or gets angry? But when the US is trying to help us, every one gets angry?

  • Anonymous

    Who’s president who did not become a US puppet in the first place?  But I agree with this article, we need the US and the US needs the Philippines also.  It’s a mutual relationship.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    Well, better to be pro-US in this times than to be pro-China which is ATTACKING and bullying our sovereignty. better also to be pro-US than to be pro-China which is still a communist country and will want to spread communism if opportunity comes. Communist movement is just crippled severely because of the dissolution of the USSR in the 1980s. You know why North Korea as a communist regime survives? It is because of China. Note that countless of thousands of North Koreans are being killed in the extermination camps of Kim Jong Il and will be continued by his son now.

  • Anonymous

    Ung mga bumabatikos sa US presence d2, anu ang inyong contribution para sa protection ng ating waters and islands and against terrorists and etc. US has been a good ally of Philippines. Sa lahat ng mga naging kalamidad d2 sa Pilipinas, ang US and unang tumutulong.  Kayong mga CPP NPA, mga ayaw sa US, nakatulong ba kayo or tumutulong ba kayo sa kapwa nyo Pilipino or isa kayong nagpapahirap sa kapwa nyo like extortion in many forms?
    I welcome the presence of the US military here to help our Philippine military to police our waters and islands.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OJWHBJLMWPTRUOZMN6JOMHLO2A Banana Na

    don’t invites US in philippines affairs, pag-naka-base ang military ng US sa subic for example, then nag-away itong US at CHINA nang dahil sa OIL sa SPARTLY, can you sure CHINA won’t fire    a missiles inside of this capital of manila, kung nangyari ito, takbuhan na ang mga investors sa pilipinas at mga businessman sa pinas sa ibang bansa…thats why other ASIAN countries is laughing at INDONESIA and now the PHILIPPINES, kasi sa INDONESIA ay naka-libre sila ng F-16 ng US MILITARY  and now, the PHILIPPINES also want the US donates them F-16, palagay mo ba walang kapalit ito sa ginagawa ng US…CHINA is not IRAQ, AGHANISTAN or other countries na kapag they want to attack this countries just response by canon , machineguns or tanks lang ang gagamitin ng mga bansa nito …US is afraid of CHINA thats why they will use others countries para sa sariling interest di ito middle east countries na kayang-kayang nila but they are afraid of one middle east country, thats is IRAN…daming mahihirap na nga ng pilipinas ay pahihirapan mo pa….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    SO HAHAYAAN MO NA LANG NA ATAKIHIN TAYO AT I-BULLY NG CHINA? SO HAHAYAAN MO na lang ba na PAAPI ang Pilipinas sa China dahil HINDI NATIN KAYANG LABANAN ANG MILITARY NG CHINA kung walang US help? 

    Why is when China ATTACKS us, almost NO ONE seems to care or gets angry? But when the US is trying to help us, every one gets angry?

  • antonioluna

    noong umalis ang mga kastila pumalit ang kano at ang sabi ni mckinley nakausap nya daw ang diyos at sinabing sakupin ang pinas, kaya nga nagkaroon ng balangiga masaker, noong ikalawang digmaang pandaigdig hindi naman sana tayo kasali sa gera pero nadamay tayo dahil sa base militar ng mga kano at ang masakit iniwan tayo sa ere kaya nasakop tayo ng hapon at bumalik lamang noong nananalo na ang hukbalahap at pinalabas nilang sila na naman ang nagpalaya sa atin pero ang totoo nadamay lang tayo dahil sa kanila.

    isang daang taon na tayong republika pero hangang ngayon umaasa pa rin sa kung kanikanino,kaibigan daw tayo ng kano pero hanggang ngayon lugmok pa rin tayo sa kahirapan pero ang vietnam na lumaban at hindi nagpauto sa kano ay maunlad na.

  • Anonymous

    So is Alaska and Hawaii (both USA), Greenland (Denmark).  Should Canada claim all these because geographically they’re much nearer?

    How about the UK, which has 14 overseas territories and not a single one within 1000km distance?

  • antonioluna

    ugok tanungin mo ang security forces ng pinas hindi ang mga ordinaryong taong bumabatikos dahil kaya nagkaroon ng sandatahang lakas ay para magbigay ng seguridad na panloob at panlabas.

    i welcome mo sila at pag naulit ang pamamaril nila sa mga bata na katulad ng baboy sana isa sa mga anak mo o kamag anak mo ang mabaril nila.

    yong mga pagtulong sa kalamidad human nature ng tao, walang kaaway o kakampi kapag mayroong kalamidad kaya huwag mong gawing espesyal ang kano na tumutulong kuno sa kalamidad habang isa rin sila sa dahilan ng kalamidad dahil sa walang habas na malakihang pagmimina dito sa ating bansa.

  • Anonymous

    Ung mga bumabatikos sa US presence d2, anu ang inyong contribution para
    sa protection ng ating waters and islands and against terrorists and
    etc. US has been a good ally of Philippines. Sa lahat ng mga naging
    kalamidad d2 sa Pilipinas, ang US and unang tumutulong.  Kayong mga CPP
    NPA, mga ayaw sa US, nakatulong ba kayo or tumutulong ba kayo sa kapwa
    nyo Pilipino or isa kayong nagpapahirap sa kapwa nyo like extortion in
    many forms?
    I welcome the presence of the US military here to help our Philippine military to police our waters and islands.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    To antonioluna: I respect your opinion. TAMA KA na dapat lumakas tayo para hindi tayo dumepende sa US or China or ano pang bansa. PERO RIGHT NOW, na INAATAKE ng China ang Soveireignty at Prestige ng Pilipinas habang mahina pa military natin, hahayaan na lang ba nating ganun iyon?  

    Why is when China ATTACKS our ships and BULLIES our sovereinty and prestige, almost NO ONE seems to care or gets angry? But when the US is trying to help us, every one gets angry?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    yeah  , somebody  is  afraid  of  Chine  but  it  sure  does  not  look  like  it’s  the  U.S. !!!   You  are  a  mealy mouth..   Get  educated.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    I  agree  Juan.   The  Filipinos  seem  to  like  to  kiss  Japanese  and  Korean  butts  but  the  have  short  memories  when  it  comes  to  what  happened  in  WW!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Just a  stooge  period….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    I  think  you  have  blurred  vision

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OJWHBJLMWPTRUOZMN6JOMHLO2A Banana Na

    @ BIll Steffen…i thinks you get educated of what the US is doing to other countries in this parts of the world… i was born here so i also have the right to protects our own peoples in the philippines…you are a selfish nation…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    You  are  right.  We  have  not  forgotten  about  being  kicked  out  the  first time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Senator  Enrile  won’t  like  that.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    to banana: Eh paano ung China na UMAATAKE sa mga barko ng Pilipinas, di ba selfish nation din ang China?  Bakit hindi kinokondena ang China? Why is when China ATTACKS our ships and BULLIES our sovereinty and prestige, almost NO ONE seems to care or gets angry? But when the US is trying to help us, every one gets angry?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Why  doesn’t  the  government just  buy  the  rights  to  produce those  aircraft  over  here?  That  way  you  kill  2  birds  with  one  stone.  You  can  produce  as  many  as  you  think  they  need  and  employ  a  whole  lot  of  Filipinos  while  doing  it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Think  what  the  Philippines  would  be  like  if  you  had  accepted  Commonwealth  status.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    That is right steffen. We must start to build our own military so we won’t be needing US aid in the future. BUT RIGHT NOW, WHILE OUR MILITARY IS STILL WEAK, we need US aid to thwart China’s plan of intimidating our nation by their military might. And I am bewildered why when China ATTACKS our ships, almost no one condemns them. But when US is trying to help us, every one gets angry. that is hypocrisy at its utmost.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Great  post 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZEI6SHG7MUONC75TPXZRCMQIII Dominic

    I could have easily visited my relatives there.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OJWHBJLMWPTRUOZMN6JOMHLO2A Banana Na

    i don;t care of SENATORS ENRILE or other politician, if war breaks out, they just fled to your nation…THE US… because they have the money, what about other poor peoples in our country…oops..americans also have many poor peoples also than before, just first plans for this poor americans for their futures…how can you teach us what to do when seeing your country in disarrays…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    How  much  financial  aid  does  the Philippines  get  from  the  U.S.  every  year?  Your  government  controls  that  money  so  who  is  eating  whose  lunch?  Duh….  I think  I know.  Has  the  U.S.  told  the  Philippines  not  to  arm  themselves or  discouraged  that  in  any  way?  Who  controls  your  military?  Duh….  I  think  the  executive  branch  of  the Philippine  Government.   CHECKMATE  Mr  pinoyjunk

  • antonioluna

    anong wala eh ako nga galit na galit ako sa pambabastos sa atin ng china pero sino ba ang dapat na unang pumalag ako ba o ang AFP natin? pero dahil ang mga heneral na nandyaan ay may talino at tapang lang sa pagnanakaw ng pondo at nuknukan ng karuwagan kapag external threat na ang pag uusapan, iyan ang mga unang magsisitakbuhan kung sakaling may sasakop sa ating bansa mga taong sinanay na maging lider pero puro pagnanakaw at panlalamang ang alam.

    kasaysayan na mismo ang nagsasabing kahit kailan hindi nakatulong sa ating ang kahit sino kung kasarinlan ang pag uusapan bagkos ay nadadamay pa tayo dahil sa kanilang presensya sa ating bansa.

    ang unang dapat gawin bago umasa sa iba ay armasan at sanayin ang mga mamayan para kung sakaling bastusin ulit tayo ng china may kakayahan tayong lumaban at hindi lang tayo aasa sa mga magnanakaw na heneral na mauuna pang tumakbo kung sakaling magkaroon ng gera.

  • Anonymous

    “The US daily quoted an unnamed senior Philippine official as saying that
    the American side was aware of “political sensitivities” surrounding
    such an agreement.”

    “Political sensitivities” – if we Filipinos carefully analyze this statement, this is actually an idea gleaned by some uninformed government people who over-emphasize the influence of the leftists and radicals.  Such perceived influence once repeated and repeated many many times, that it now becomes the position of the many.

    WRONG!!!  The influence of the leftists and radicals is minimal and continually diminishing.  With the fall of Russia, Berlin, and the transformation of China into a hybrid Communist/Capitalist government, the ideology of the leftists and radicals is now passe, and they are fighting for a lost cause.  

    With China bullying the Philippines, Vietnam and Malaysia over the Spratlys, the cry of the leftists and the radicals against the US is very suspect.

    If at this very moment the Philippine government will put into a plebiscite whether the Filipinos will allow the US to set-up a military/air force/naval stronghold in the Philippines,  I am very confident that the Filipinos will overwhelmingly agree. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    To Banana: You are just condemning US again. What about China which ATTACKS our NATION? HAHAYAAN MO NA LNG IYON? Hindi ba right now na mahina pa ang military natin, kailangan natin ng tulong ng ibang bansa para protektahan tayo mula sa Pangbubully ng China? I am bewildered why when China ATTACKS our ships, almost no one condemns them. But when US is trying to help us, every one gets angry at US. Grabe naman oh.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    You  got  that  right  Art.  Also  remember  the  Philippines  was  offered  Commonwealth status  at  one  or  two  points  in  history  and  turned  it  down.  If  you  were  a  Commonwealth  today  the  politicians  would  not  be  routinely  raping  the  citizens  and  the  money  would  be  going  to  the  right  places.  Don’t blame  my  country  for  this.  Blame  yours…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    To Bill Steffen: I quote from you – “Great post”. Thank you very much :D

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    @ antonioluna:  TAMA KA na dapat magpalakas tayo ng military para next time di na natin kailangan ang tulong ng ibang bansa. Pero NGAUN, WHILE OUR MILITARY IS STILL WEAK, kailangan natin ang tulong ng US para pigilin ang plano ng China na i bully tayo. why is when China ATTACKS our ships, almost no one condemns them. But when US is trying to help us, every one gets angry. China ang bigger threat po dito. HINDI US ANG UMAATAKE SA ATIN. CHINA ang umaatake sa atin NGAUN.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    And  you  sound  like  you  enjoy  that  the  Filipinos  were  slaves  of  the  Spanish  for  how  many  hundred  years?.  Your  logic  is  flawed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NTD5NB75GZFZ2F4NZNMIBNYBQQ Diesel

    we need friends…and the usa is our friend…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OJWHBJLMWPTRUOZMN6JOMHLO2A Banana Na

    i don’t blames the philippines, i blames this politicians keeps on listening to your country that dictates us what to do….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Man  you  took  the  words  right  out  of  my  mouth….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Hmmmmmm…. I  would  like  to  know  that  too….

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    All  very  good  points

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    to Banana: you are JUST CONDEMNING US again. Paano ang China na inaatake tayo ngaun? HAHAYAAN MO NA LANG BANG ATAKIHIN TAYO NG CHINA? US na nga ang nag mamagandang loob eh. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Exactly  right

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Yeah  start  with  the  one  in  the Palace…..

  • Anonymous

    Ok lang yan… Let’s use them (US) to offset our weakness in protecting our territory from any foreign aggressor.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Karma !!!!

  • Artemio Piquero

    Does the Philippines want to be a target of one or two Chinese nuclear warheads?

    America won’t be able to confront tens of millions of Red Army troops in a land war with China.

    A U.S. -China war by definition will be a nuclear war.

    But prior to that there will be a war by proxy i.e. a Vietnam-like kind of war,
    and tens of thousands of Filipinos inside the Philippines will die before
    a single Red Army or a U.S. soldier get scratched. The war will be in
    Philippines and not in America or China. (e.g. The Chinese will support
    the MILF/MNLF/NPA and the Americans supports Manila).

    The answer is neutrality.

    After so many wars since the 1500, Filipinos really should know better by now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Heheheheeh  The  muslims  are  your  internal  problem.   Whats  your  government  doing  about  it.??  Giving  more  money  to  MILF  and  NPA.  Don’t  blame  my  country for  the  shortcomings  of  this  government and  for  the  stupid  people  that  keep  voting  the  bandits  into  office.

  • antonioluna

    tama ka china ang threat at alam natin iyon hindi katulad ng kano na nagkukunwaring kaibigan, tsaka alam mo bang kung sakaling lusubin tayo ng china ay hindi naman silang automatikong makikipaglaban para sa atin, kailangan pa ng basbas ng kanilang kongreso.

    naiintindihan ko ang nararamdaman mo, takot yaan ang nararamdaman mo dahil nakikita mo ang china bilang isang napakalaking kalaban pero hindi ba at nanalo ang vietnam laban sa higanteng US at tsaka hindi ba napakaraming nanalig sa diyos dito sa ating bansa kumpara sa china na hindi naniniwala sa diyos, ano ang ikinatatakot mo?

    at dahil natatakot ka kailangan mo ng masasandalan na akala mo ay tutulungan ka.
    ikaw tanungin kita dahil sigurado akong may itinuturing ka ring tunay na kaibigan, kapag ang isang totoong kaibigan mo ay naghihirap hindi ba tutulungan mo maibsan ang kanyang kahirapan, kasama na dyan ang pagpuna sa kung anong maling sistema mayroon sa pamumuhay ng kaibigan mo, kasama na dyan ang pagpapaganda ng sistema upang mabawasan ang kahirapan kung hindi man umunlad ang kaibigan mo, ginawa ba sa atin iyan ng kaibigan kuno ng bansa natin.

    noong panahon ni marcos hindi ba at kakampi nila si marcos dahil protektado ni marcos ang mga interest nila pero wala silang pakialam kung anuman mga krimen na ang pinaggagawa ni marcos hanggang hindi nasasaling ang negosyo nila, pero ano ang ginawa nila sa dating presidenteng Carlos P. Garcia na nagpatupad ng Filipino First policy isang batas na nagprupotekta sa mga negosyo at ekonomiya noong dekada 60 hindi ba at pinalabas nila itong isang kumunista, hindi ba at katakut takot na black propaganda ang inabot ng tao para lang hindi na manalo noong sumunod na eleksyon, siguro alam mo na noong panahon ni Garcia naging pangalawa ng ekonomiya ng pinas sa buong asia at ano ang nangyari noong umupo na ang kanilang kandidatong si macapagal, binaliktad lahat ng batas na ipinatupad ni Garcia at doon muli nagsimulang bumagsak ang ating ekonomiya, yaan ba ang sinasabi mong KANO ang tumutulong at nakakatulong sa atin.

  • antonioluna

    itama natin ang sinasabi mo, hindi tayo inaatake, binabastos pa lang tayo, dahil kung inaatake tayo alam kong mararamdaman mo iyon.

    .

  • Anonymous

    It wouldn’t hurt if part of the deal is to equip us with training and equipment for a couple of ‘Philippine Navy Seals’ hehe. We need to do a lot of butt kicking in the south. Those kidnappers and terrorists in Mindanao are asking for it.

  • Anonymous

    It’s quite possible we are only seeing a prelude to a return to 
    a US-Philippine pact re-establishing a US air base military 
    presence in the Philippines, thus making our country a prime
    target should China declare war against us, using the Spratlys
    dispute as an excuse, or any other excuse. But remember 
    China may be just a decoy when the real objective is to
    bolster the US position in case of a major war outbreak in 
    the Middle East. 

    In which case, we will be again to be used by the US, and far 
    from us being strengthened militarily by the US. Again we will 
    be akin to a US satellite. Again our independence will be a 
    farce. Weak nations like ours don’t have much choice. Made
    weaker still by spineless leadership that we always know
    promote and enrich only themselves while the country 
    becomes even poorer and underdeveloped.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VYVO5BIPX6WO4IGFRGIQE3P6HY Ruben

    That was what the recent trip here of some US Congressmen led by MacCain discussed with the Phl government.  Expect tension to further rise and Phl getting into an actual war with China.

  • antonioluna

    you forgot to mention that your previous ambassador was secretly in contact with MILF and it was her who arrange for the independence of muslim mindanoa if it wasn’t oppose by most filipinos, our government could be dirty but your government is the dirtiest, you government can even kill your own people just to make a scenario and make an imposition.

  • Anonymous

    put the u.s. bases back. collect the rent. move on.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    To antonioluna: so sa sagot mo, YOU AGREED with me na  ang “China ay threat” as you stated yourself. SO HABANG MAHINA PA MILITARY NATIN, ANONG GAGAWIN NATIN SA THREAT NA CHINA NGAYON? kung ayaw mong humingi ng tulong sa US habang mahina pa military natin NGAYON, anong gagawin natin sa China NGAYON? Pa pa bully na lang tayo ngayon sa China?

  • Artemio Piquero

    Another century, another war for Filipinos.

  • antonioluna

    lahat ng nambabastos ay threat, napakadali lang naman ng tanong at nasagot ko na iyan, basahin mo ulit, pero nakalimutan ko yatang sabihin na una, huwag kang maging duwag.

  • Artemio Piquero

    Does the Philippines want to be a target of one or two Chinese nuclear warheads?America won’t be able to confront tens of millions of Red Army troops in a land war with China.A U.S. -China war by definition will be a nuclear war.But prior to that there will be a war by proxy i.e. a Vietnam-like kind of war, and tens of thousands of Filipinos inside the Philippines will die before a single Red Army or a U.S. soldier get scratched. The war will be inPhilippines and not in America or China. (e.g. The Chinese will support the MILF/MNLF/NPA and the Americans supports Manila).The answer is neutrality. After so many wars since the 1500, Filipinos really should know better by now.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    To antonioluna: HINDI LANG TAYO BINABASTOS NG CHINA antonio. INAATAKE NG CHINA ANG MGA BARKO NATIN. 

    So tell me now: HABANG MAHINA PA MILITARY NATIN, ANONG GAGAWIN NATIN SA THREAT NA CHINA NGAYON (as you stated yourself)? kung ayaw mong humingi ng tulong sa US habang mahina pa military natin NGAYON, anong gagawin natin sa China NGAYON? Pa pa bully na lang tayo ngayon sa China?

  • Anonymous

    Korek!

  • Anonymous

    Phil. government can do extrajudicial killings too!

  • Anonymous

    We can welcome them, but do not trust them!

  • antonioluna

     i agree, but that is another story because they perceived them as enemies.

  • Patricio Licerio

    i agree the truth hurts but it is the truth, come to think of it the Americans never left, it was said that they left when the bases where booted out but just look around they are here and will continue to stay, Its rally against the US time again.

  • antonioluna

    ang sagot, kapag inatake ang barko natin ng china dapat ipagtangol ito ng ating coast guard pero dahil sa mga kapwa mo yata duwag ang mga nagbabantay sa ating dagat ay natameme na lang sila, alam mo kasi kapag puro ka takot at karuwagan kahit maliit o malaki ang umatake o bumastos sa iyo ay walang kang gagawin kasi nga duwagis ka at total kahit hindi mo aminin na ganon ka, sya sumige ka humingi ka ng tulong sa mga kanuto at baka nga tulungan ka, nakakahiya ka siguro dahil sa karuwagan mo kahit na pinagsasamantalahan ang anak mo sa harapan mo wala lang gagawin.

  • antonioluna

     on this i agree, if they will ever pay, in cash not in the form of aid.

  • Patricio Licerio

    It does not matter whether we let the Americans in or not the only thing for sure is to expect the continuous bullying tactics of China, they want to exert their influence in the region and every country in the region is expecting this.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    To Antonio: Lol. HINDI pinapag usapan kung duwag ang mga barko natin Antonio. NATAMEME ang COAST GUARD natin HINDI DAHIL DUWAG, KUNDI DAHIL TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED ANG BARKO NG CHINA KUMPARA SA ATIN. Ibig sabihin, WALANG LABAN ANG MGA BARKO NATIN SA CHINA.

    KAYA NGA TAYO BINU BULLY NG CHINA KASI MAHINA PA SA NGAYON ANG TECHNOLOGY NATIN SA MILITARY. At hindi lang tayo binabastos ng China. Inaatake ng china ang mga barko natin at ang Karangalan ng ating bansa.

    So tell me now: HABANG MAHINA PA ang TECHNOLOGY NG MILITARY NATIN, ANONG GAGAWIN NATIN SA THREAT NA CHINA NGAYON (as you stated yourself)? kung ayaw mong humingi ng tulong sa US habang mahina pa military natin NGAYON, anong gagawin natin sa China NGAYON? HAHAYAAN NA LNG ba nating atakihin ng china mga barko natin?And I pose this question again: When China ATTACKED us, bakit mas galit pa rin sa US na nagmamagandang loob na nga? Eh etong China na nga nangbabraso sa atin eh.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OHOD5EA75DBBUH53UKLRXRK764 Mang Teban

    From my viewpoint, Filipinos do not need the Americans to camp in and out of the country. The USA’s military policies have been always detrimental to the Philippines. So, why bother discuss  the possibility of an internal agreement that allows the American naval ships to pass by our shores and conduct “joint exercises” which are nothing but “flexing muscles to scare China off in case it tries to bully the claimants on Spratly islands again”?

    American diplomatic goobledygook is hogwash. We do not need another shameful blunder by the Americans to initiate military adventurism in the South East Asian region. The ASEAN or the Association of South East Asian Nations is the proper regional entity that should protect the Philippines and her neighbors from intruders, China and USA included.

    Such a fallacy in reasoning to say that the USA will help the Philippines fight local insurgency and terrorism as well with the presence of American naval ships. Instead, what is accurately the reason why the USA would want to put in naval ships patrolling Philippine coastal waters is to secure US mainland as it was in the past since the Philippines is the sole country strategically facing the Pacific Ocean in the East. Guam, a US territory, is so small to place a formidable naval base to ensure that no foreign enemy will attack US mainland. Well, Americans learned their lesson when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. After WWII, the US military policy has always been to use the Philippines as a SHIELD. Sucks, does it not?

  • Artemio Piquero

    Does the Philippines
    want to be a target of one or two Chinese nuclear warheads?America won’t be able
    to confront tens of millions of Red Army troops in a land war with China.A U.S.
    -China war by definition will be a nuclear war.But prior to that there will be a
    war by proxy i.e. a Vietnam-like kind of war, and tens of thousands of Filipinos
    inside the Philippines will die before a single Red Army or a U.S. soldier get
    scratched. The war will be inPhilippines and not in America or China. (e.g. The
    Chinese will support the MILF/MNLF/NPA and the Americans supports Manila).The
    answer is neutrality. After so many wars since the 1500, Filipinos really should
    know better by now. 

  • Libira

    As much as we like to be a FREE country, we can’t be free until we fix our messes. The only way we can do that is to seek help/assistance. We don’t have the technology or the manpower yet so we might as well take any help/assistance/protection until we can stand on our own two feet.

  • Anonymous

    Have you forgotten this early? Fine, FYI the latest victory of the US was the war against Iraq and before that against Afghanistan. The US is the most powerful nation on earth. No nation in its right mind would dare to challenge the US. China and Russia will think thrice before engaging the US in an all out war.

  • Patricio Licerio

    Masaya na naman ang mga aktibista hahahahaha

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    REPLY TO ANTONIOLUNA:

    Lolz. HINDI pinapag usapan kung duwag ang mga barko natin Antonio. NATAMEME ang COAST GUARD natin HINDI DAHIL DUWAG, KUNDI DAHIL TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED ANG BARKO NG CHINA KUMPARA SA ATIN. Ibig sabihin, WALANG LABAN ANG MGA BARKO NATIN SA CHINA.

    KAYA NGA TAYO BINU BULLY NG CHINA KASI MAHINA PA SA NGAYON ANG TECHNOLOGY NATIN SA MILITARY.

    At hindi lang tayo binabastos ng China. Inaatake ng china ang mga barko natin at ang Karangalan ng ating bansa.

    So tell me now: HABANG MAHINA PA ang TECHNOLOGY NG MILITARY NATIN, ANONG GAGAWIN NATIN SA THREAT NA CHINA NGAYON (as you stated yourself)? kung ayaw mong humingi ng tulong sa US habang mahina pa military natin NGAYON, anong gagawin natin sa China NGAYON? HAHAYAAN NA LNG ba nating atakihin ng china mga barko natin?And I pose this question again: When China ATTACKED us, bakit mas galit pa rin sa US na nagmamagandang loob na nga? Eh etong China na nga nangbabraso sa atin eh.

  • Artemio Piquero

    I agree.

  • Artemio Piquero

    I agree with Mang Teban.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BN4RGMJXFOD6DKC2HM24M34K34 Bart

    The prostitutes will be rejoicing!

  • Anonymous

    Ganun din! Pinatay ang kapwa Pilipino dahil sa sila’y naghahayag lamang ng katotohanan at ang nagpapatay ay ayaw malahad ang katotohanan…….Pero sa US, hindi nangyayari yan.  Reply ko lang ito sa sinabi mo kay Stefen.

  • Anonymous

    At least ngayon mga kano na ang mga Cliente nila! di na mga naka barong-de-bodyguard na mga buwaya! insecure na naman ang mga local customer nito! hahhahahhahaha

  • Anonymous

    US Imperialism has always been here. they just change tactics from time to time para maiba naman. the Philippines being a puppet este…an ally pala has to cooperate with the US strategic millitary preparation in case China becomes a real dragon and danger to them. and it looks it will become one. Should the sanction against Iranian oil takes effect by US allies, Iranian oil goes all the way to China making the sanction useless. this will not make the US happy. to frustrate China, the US will make “incidents” in south china sea to start another conflict zone. that’s why the US is seeking a big military role in the Philippines.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BMVVK44E2732547BGWWIF6H7JI Riddick

    Masaya na naman ang mga hakot kaliwa, meron namang P300 kada rally.

  • Artemio Piquero

    Does the Philippines
    want to be a target of one or two Chinese nuclear warheads?America won’t be able
    to confront tens of millions of Red Army troops in a land war with China.A U.S.
    -China war by definition will be a nuclear war.But prior to that there will be a
    war by proxy i.e. a Vietnam-like kind of war, and tens of thousands of Filipinos
    inside the Philippines will die before a single Red Army or a U.S. soldier get
    scratched. The war will be in the Philippines and not in America or China. (e.g. The
    Chinese will support the MILF/MNLF/NPA and the Americans supports Manila).The
    answer is neutrality. After so many wars since the 1500, Filipinos really should
    know better by now. 

  • Artemio Piquero

    I agree.

  • Artemio Piquero

    I agree with Weedroots

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    To artemiopiquero: So paano na ngayon eh INAATAKE NG CHINA mga barko natin?

    Wag nyong sabihing makipag negosasyon lng tayo, eh ang china walang respeto sa negosasyon kundi bagkus inaatake mga barko natin. Kung di natin palalakasin depensa natin, babastusin tayo lagi ng china.

    HABANG MAHINA PA MILITARY TECHNOLOGY NATIN NGAYON, HAHAYAAN NA LANG NATING ATAKIHIN NG CHINA BARKO NATIN kasi pag dumepensa tayo with help of US baka magka nuclear war? 

    Eh paano na NGAYON? HAYAAN NA LNG BA NATIN CHINA ATAKIHIN TAYO?

  • Artemio Piquero

    Sorry, malalim na tanong yan pare. Hindi ko kaya.

  • antonioluna

    paulit ulit ang tanong mo dahil isa lang naman ang tumbok mo, gusto mong umasa, hindi ba?basahin mo ulit ang mga sinulat ko nandoon ang sagot sa tanong mo pero para maliwanagan ka ng kaunti bigyan kita ng simpleng halimbawa.

    kapag ang isang kabitbahay mo ay binabastos ang isa sa kapamilya mo at wala kayong ginagawa para huminto ito at mapigilan ito patuloy kayong babastusin, human nature iyan.

    sa chess naman kapag inaatake ka at patuloy kang hindi dumidepensa asahan mo tuloy tuloy ang atake sa iyo.

    pero kung gusto mo talaga ay umasa at humingi ng tulong sa inaakala mong makakatulong sa iyo sige magtanong ka ulit.

    pero natindihan mo ba ang position ng america tungkol sa west phillipine sea, sinabi ng ambassador na hindi sila makikialam kaya ano kayang tulong ang inaasahan mo at kung ang iniisip mo ay lulusubin tayo ng china para sakupin aba eh malikot ang iyong pag iisip o baka iniiisip mo iyan para mabigyan ulit ng katarungan ang paghingi mo ng tulong sa kano.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    To artemio: :D Kaya nga ok lng pre na humingi muna tayo ng tulong sa US panandali para HINDI TAYO ATAKIHIN NG CHINA. pag lumakas na tayo, di na natin kailangan US pero sa NGAYON, kailangan natin tulong nila.

    CHINA PO ang kalaban sa issue dito, HINDI ANG US. CHINA ang umaatake sa atin mga igan, HINDI ANG US.

    Sa mga nagsasabing US Imperialism, EH PAANO NAMAN NATIN PIPIGILIN ANG CHINESE IMPERIALISM SA SOUTH EAST ASIA? At least ang US hindi komunista. ANG CHINA COMMUNIST po mga igan. Bawal nga sa China na tuligsain mo pamahalaan nila. E sa Pilipinas may laya tayong bumatikos sa internet o sa media, sa China kahit iyon bawal. Gusto nyo ba iyon? 

  • antonioluna

     US doesn’t bring their own war in their own soil, they will take it into another place, Philippines maybe.

  • Artemio Piquero

    I agree.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    To AntonioLuna: online ka pa pala. Po post ko lang to ulit baka di mo nabasa.

    Lolz. HINDI pinapag usapan kung duwag ang mga barko natin Antonio. NATAMEME ang COAST GUARD natin HINDI DAHIL DUWAG, KUNDI DAHIL TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED ANG BARKO NG CHINA KUMPARA SA ATIN. Ibig sabihin, WALANG LABAN ANG MGA BARKO NATIN SA CHINA.

    KAYA NGA TAYO BINU BULLY NG CHINA KASI MAHINA PA SA NGAYON ANG TECHNOLOGY NATIN SA MILITARY. 

    At hindi lang tayo binabastos ng China. Inaatake ng china ang mga barko natin at ang Karangalan ng ating bansa.

    So tell me now: HABANG MAHINA PA ang TECHNOLOGY NG MILITARY NATIN, ANONG GAGAWIN NATIN SA THREAT NA CHINA NGAYON (as you stated yourself)? kung ayaw mong humingi ng tulong sa US habang mahina pa military natin NGAYON, anong gagawin natin sa China NGAYON? HAHAYAAN NA LNG ba nating atakihin ng china mga barko natin? BAKIT di takot tayo sa CHINESE IMPERIALISM eh communist yan? 
    Bawal nga sa China na tuligsain mo pamahalaan nila. E sa Pilipinas may laya tayong bumatikos sa internet o sa media, sa China kahit iyon bawal. Gusto nyo ba iyon?

  • Artemio Piquero

    Akala ko kapitalista ang China. Ang America ang komunista. Baka nagkamli ako.

  • Artemio Piquero

    Does the Philippines
    want to be a target of one or two Chinese nuclear warheads?America won’t be able
    to confront tens of millions of Red Army troops in a land war with China.A U.S.
    -China war by definition will be a nuclear war.But prior to that there will be a
    war by proxy i.e. a Vietnam-like kind of war, and tens of thousands of Filipinos
    inside the Philippines will die before a single Red Army or a U.S. soldier get
    scratched. The war will be inPhilippines and not in America or China. (e.g. The
    Chinese will support the MILF/MNLF/NPA and the Americans supports Manila).The
    answer is neutrality. After so many wars since the 1500, Filipinos really should
    know better by now. 

  • Anonymous

    hwag kayong matakot sa nuclear warheads ng China.

    China will never use nuclear weapons to the Philippines.And China does not have the balls to use it.

    There is only one in the whole world who has the balls to use nuclear and will not hesitate to use it again … the USA.

    She used it in 1945 (2 pieces) and was willing to use 8 to 10 more had Japan not accepted the unconditional surrender.

    McArthur had wanted to use it in the Korean war in 1951 when more than 1 million red army joined the North Korean army.

    Some generals were about to use nuclear in North Vietnam and part of South Vietnam in the Battle of Khe Sanh where 1 US Marine Brigade remote base of 6,000 soldiers were about to be overrun by 2 divisions of North Vietnamese Army of about 18,000.

    14 years earlier, in 1954 in the battle of Bien Dien Phu, Vietnam, when the French Forces of 1 Division (10,000 troops) were overrun by 6 division of Vietnamese Army (60,000 troops), some of the general in the US Armed Forces were about to give the French several nuclear bombs. But the US president did not grant the French request which became one of the reasons why France left the NATO years after.

  • Jonald Cruz

    Apparently we should welcome this sort of “development” since admittedly the Philippines lacks the military capacity and capability to defend the country. The decrepit state of the AFP most definitely needs the advanced and modern warfare of the US if we want to secure and defend our country from foreign aggressors i.e. China.

  • Artemio Piquero

    Absolutely correct.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OJNATN4KHKDPJ47Y4RGR3EXYVQ WindTalker

    don’t worry we are already been a target, so no difference…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OJNATN4KHKDPJ47Y4RGR3EXYVQ WindTalker

    the MDT is the only thing that makes China hesitate to occupy us…kung wala iyon baka wala na tayong sariling bansa at matulad na tayo sa Tibet…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OJNATN4KHKDPJ47Y4RGR3EXYVQ WindTalker

    tsaka libreng gadgets from China…hahaha!

  • antonioluna

    taliwas pala ang isyu mo, una bakit ba tayo binubully ng china, dahil sa west philippine sea di ba? pangalawa upang sirain ang ating loob sa pagclaim pero ang pinupunto mo lulusubin at sasakupin tayo ng china.

    yong sa tanong mo sa pag atake ng barko natin, ano ginagawa ng coast guard natin?ano ginagawa ng mga baril nila, ang ganda naman ng lohika mo na dahil alam mong mas magaganda ang armas nila ay hindi na dapat pumalag ang mga coast guard natin at dapat humingi na ng tulong sa kano.

    klarong klaro na walang kang natutunan sa mga bayani natin na nagtangol sa ating kalayaan, ano sabi mo dapat matakot tayo sa china dahil baka lusubin tayo, ano na lang ang sinasabi ng lupang hinirang sa iyo, kapag lahat ng pilipino ay katulad mo ng pag iisip wala talagang pupuntahan ang bansang ito at magiging bastusin lang magpakailanman.

    ke kumunista o hindi ang isang bandang bumabastos sa atin dapat tayong manindigan, dapat tayong pumalag upang ipakita na kinikilala natin ang ating kasarinlan pero ikaw hingi kaagad ng tulong wala pa man ding ginagawa para sa sarili nya.

    pero uulitin ko din sa iyo, ano ang dapat ikatakot ng isang makadiyos na bansa laban sa isang bansang walang diyos?

    hindi totoo ang sinsabi mong wala tayong laban sa malaki, bakit nanalo ang vietnam laban sa mga kano?

    yong threat ng china ikaw ang nagsabi nya hindi ako, ikaw lang naman ang nangangatog sa takot kaya saklolo uncle sam ka kaagad.

  • Anonymous

    As much as possible the US will do its very best to protect its citizens from harm, but in a war, the citizens of the US know the consequences of a war and they are prepared to meet the challenge if the enemy brings it to her shores. Just like the filipinos, americans are proud warriors too and ready to die for the country.

  • Anonymous

    Its time to bring the US bases and this time in Guiuan, E. Samar. 

    Those who pushed the US bases out of the Philippines must be put on the front line in case of PH-China war. 

  • Artemio Piquero

    But before that, there will be two Philippines: Southern Phillipines- a puppet of China and Northern Philippines’ under the U.S influence.

    When America comes there will be war. Filipinos will die.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/OJNATN4KHKDPJ47Y4RGR3EXYVQ WindTalker

    the last time i checked, China is the Imperialist one katunayan sila nga ang umaangkin ng Spratlys dahil sa historical kuno ng Imperial China noon…duh! The US alam ko until now Democratic country pa rin same as the Philippines… hahaha!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    To antonioluna: Ikaw eh takot lang sa US pero HINDI SA PAGSAKOP NG CHINA SA TERITORYO NATIN. NAKU naman. Hai grabe. Hindi ka ba natatakot doon? 

    O ngaun na inaatake ng china barko natin dahil technologically advanced sila, paano na un? wala ka namang sagot doon eh.

  • antonioluna

     then you are talking about uncivilized world

  • Anonymous

    Ph has only two choices.  It is either the Philippines be under U.S. Or China’s sphere of influence.  It is also a choice between democratic and comunnist way of life.

  • Artemio Piquero

    They can have back the whole of Manicani Island too. 

  • antonioluna

     sang ayon ako, at para doon sa mga duwag at ayaw lumaban ifiring squad na kaagad para hindi pamarisan.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YGZSHANDHKKYGD6OBYFLC3EBAA choy

    YEHEY!!! MAY RALLY NANAMAN SA TAPAT NG U.S EMBASSY NITO!!! HAPPY NANAMAN KAMI SA 300 PESOS PER DAY PLUS PACKED FOOD…WEHEHEHE…

    IBAGSAK ANG IMPERYALISTANG AMERICANO, MABUHAY ANG 300 PESOS!!! 

  • Anonymous

    Nag withdraw lang ang US military nung Vietnam dahil sa unpopularity….. Nagkagulo gulo na sa Washington DC, riot dito, riot doon. Hinaloan pa ng matinding politika, kaya hayun! talo ang mga incumbents pagdating sa eleksyon….

  • Anonymous

    tumutulong lng ang US sa atin kc kong wala ang US sa atin siguro matagal na din tayo sinakop ng ibang bansa.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    To antonioluna: 
    Ikaw eh takot ka lang sa US pero HINDI SA PAGSAKOP NG CHINA SA TERITORYO NATIN. NAKU naman. Hai grabe. Hindi ka ba natatakot doon? o baka ikaw ang duwag na hahayaan na lng na atakihin tau ng china para makuha ang teritoryo natin sa spratlys.O ngaun na inaatake ng china barko natin dahil technologically advanced sila, paano na un? wala ka namang sagot doon eh.

  • antonioluna

     parang kapag gusto mong makulong si palpa-run ay kumunista ka at kapag gusto mong alisin ang mga kaso ni palpa-run ikaw ay makademokrasya hehehe

  • Artemio Piquero

    Communism has been dead a long time ago….except of course Jose Maria Sison—with his begging bowl asking handouts from the Vikings.

    China is number one Capitalist country in the world by population.

  • Anonymous

    as I always says in the other articles, not only the oil that China wants.
    But of course the oil reserves there is the 4th largest in the world, about the same as what Soudi Arabia possesses.

    South China Sea is very rich in marine life and a vast fishing ground.

    Right now, 200 miles from the shores of Ilocos, pangasinan, bataan cavite, bantangas, Palawan, Mindoro, Balabac Islands are owned by Filipino fishermen, giving food to many rural and poor kababayan.

    if China take the control of the South China Sea, only 12 miles from the sea shores of Ilocos to Palawan the Filipino fishermen could catch fish and marine resources

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YGZSHANDHKKYGD6OBYFLC3EBAA choy

    Sa Call Center, yung 300 pesos eh 8 hours mong pag ttrabahuan…may konting break para makapag yosi sa labas…budlat ang mata sa puyatan, puro kape sa Pantry at walang libreng pagkain.

    Sa Rally, 3 hours lang, konting sigaw sigaw…may 300 ka na, may pagkain ka pa! At kita ka pa sa T.V…..

    SARAP!!!!!!!!!   OH ANO MGA TOL, SUGOD NA!!!!

  • antonioluna

    basahin mo, ang sagot doon dapat lumaban ang coast guard natin hehehe, nakakatuwa ka wala ka pang ginagawa para sa sarili mo hingi kaagad ng tulong sa maling tao pa hehehe.

    buti na lang hindi ka naging abogado dahil kapag nalaman mo na topnatcher ang katungali mo aba eh sasabihin mo sa kliyente mo aminin na natin kaagad dahil wala tayong laban nyahahaha

  • Artemio Piquero

    Makibaka!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    uhm may i remind you na one party state pa rin ang China? Ibig sabihin BAWAL TULIGSAIN ANG GOBYERNO NG CHINA SA RALLY, MEDIA AT INTERNET. BAWAL DIN ANG FREE EXERCISE OF SPEECH SA CHINA HANGGANG NGAYON. may capitalism sa china pero COMMUNIST party pa rin ang in power kaya bawal pa rin free speech doon. 

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    gusto na namang bumalik
    ang war monger u.s.

    pagkatapos sinira ang
    iraq
    libya
    afghanistan
    somalia
    pakistan
    yemen
    many etc pa in the past

    sisirain ulit tayo tulad noong
    u.s. – spain war
    u.s. – pilipino war
    u.s. – japan war
    korean war
    vietnam war
    war on terror

    TUTULAN NATIN ITO

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    eh paano ung china na war monger sa spratlys, paano na un? di ba mas malaking threat sila dahil sinasakop nila spratlys ng sapilitan?

  • Artemio Piquero

    I agree.

  • antonioluna

     magbasa ka ng kasaysayan ng pinas dahil taliwas ang mga sinabi mo

  • Artemio Piquero

    Ay mali pala si ako.

  • antonioluna

     dahil hindi lang naman sa lakas ng armas naipapanalo ang isang digmaan

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    To antonioluna:

    PAANO nga lalaban coast guard natin eh TECHNOLOGICALLY SUPERIOR MGA BARKO NG CHINA SA ATIN? Wala ngang laban barko natin eh kahit magmatapang pa tayo. Hai naman. Kaya nga tau binubully ng china dahil kulang military technology natin eh. 

    Eh ngaung sinasakop ng China ang Spratlys ng sapilitan sa Pilipinas dahil mahina technology natin, hahayaan mo na lng iyon?

  • Artemio Piquero

    Does the Philippines
    want to be a target of one or two Chinese nuclear warheads?America won’t be able
    to confront tens of millions of Red Army troops in a land war with China.A U.S.
    -China war by definition will be a nuclear war.But prior to that there will be a
    war by proxy i.e. a Vietnam-like kind of war, and tens of thousands of Filipinos
    inside the Philippines will die before a single Red Army or a U.S. soldier get
    scratched. The war will be inPhilippines and not in America or China. (e.g. The
    Chinese will support the MILF/MNLF/NPA and the Americans supports Manila).The
    answer is neutrality. After so many wars since the 1500, Filipinos really should
    know better by now. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BMAFRNZ3QCR5N7Y36TX7RXNOBU joey

    what a stupid presumption… i pity you :(

  • Anonymous

    may hazard pay ba yan? kasi pag US embassy ang marcha, sigurado batota at sapak kaagad ang maabutan nila eh! ahahhahahhaha….pag babae naman, talagang walang swerte pag tsinansingan pa ng mga pulis….hehehheheh

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    antonio, NILABAG ng CHINA ang KASUNDUAN at mga NEGOSASYON dahil AGRESIBO NILANG INATAKE ANG SPRATLYS. Kung NILABAG NILA ANG KASUNDUAN NA MAPAYAPA, e di dapat ding handang lumaban ang Pilipinas para di tau bastusin ng China. Eh kaso ngaun mahina pa ang technology natin kaya kahit na magmatapang taung labanan sila, wala taung magagawa kung walang tulong US. Naintindihan mo ba?

  • Anonymous

    Sadya namang malaki ang pakinabang ng ating bansa kung matutuloy ang expansion ng US military base d2 sa atin.. Una sa lahat, higit na mapapalawak ang kaalaman ng ating mga kasundaluhan dahil narin sa pagsasagawa ng mga military exercise gaya ng Balikatan at marami na rin silang naitulong lalong lalo na sa pagbibigay tulong medikal sa ating mga kapos na kababayan at ngayon ay makakatulong pa sila sa pagbabantay ng ating mga karagatan.

    Isa pa, kaya may Visiting Forces Agreement dahil may mga alituntuning dapat sundin ang dalawang bansa kaya wala naman tayong dapat ikatakot kung sakali ngang matuloy ang binabalak na US military expansion….. 

  • Libira

    Independent country pero lubog sa utang. We are a poor country pretending to be rich. We might as well admit it and ask for the support of other countries. Why not? 

    Maraming Pilipino ang pumupunta sa ibang bansa para maging domestic help, nurse, caretaker, doctor, chef, singer, miss universe, businessman, dancer, etc para lang makilala tayo na magagaling! Bakit hindi ang buong bansa di ba? 

    Hanga tayo sa sumisikat na Pilipino, pahangain pa natin sila sa kakayahan nating umangat kesa binabagsak natin ang isa’t-isa!

    WE NEED the support and the determination

  • Anonymous

    Hello!  Despite being a US colony with the largest US military bases here in Asia, we were still attacked and occupied by Japan in 1941.  And what did America do to defend us?  She surrendered the PH to the Japanese and we had to fight them ourselves ofr almost 3 years before the Americans came to get back their outpost.  You forget so easily the lessons of the past because you are young and ignorant.

    Being aligned with the US will just make us another target among their enemies…and they have a lot of enemies.  We need to develop our own defense capabilities.  Why are we not closer to our own Asian neighbors?  Some of you still have this sad colonial mentality.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    To antonioluna:

    anong mali sa sinabi ko? mali ba ang sinabi ko na inaatake ngaun ng china ang mga barko natin para sapilitang kunin ang spratlys mula sa teritoryo ng pilipinas? oh e di china ang war monger sa south east asia. mali ba un?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BMAFRNZ3QCR5N7Y36TX7RXNOBU joey

    Naniniwala din ang Tibet nyan dati, eh ano na sila ngayon? PARTE na ng teritoryo ng Tsina…. kawawa ka naman tol…

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    kailangang magpalakas tayo
    together with asean
    to protect our mutual interests

    rollback tsina seagrab

    kailangan ng astig at
    sakripisyo sa mga borloloy ng gobyerno
    para palakasin ang depensa

  • Anonymous

    Pwede rin!Pero higit nun,  politika ang nagdala sa US miltary para mag withdraw sa Vietnam….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    that is right joboni. Pero RIGHT NOW NA MAHINA PA ANG PILIPINAS, kailangan natin ang US help para ipagtanggol ang ating teritoryo laban sa China na siyang war monger sa Spratly Islands. O alangan namang pabastos na lang tayo sa China na hindi sumusunod sa kasunduang mapayapa dahil harapang umaatake na sila.

  • Anonymous

    Sa panahon na iyon, kung talagang alam mo na inukupa na ang Manila,siguradong talo na ang mga sundalong nagtatanggol nun,pero ang importante—-ay nakabawi pa rin makaraan ng ilang sandaling taon! Some Asian neighbors, may mga defense treaty na rin sa US, thats including Vietnam…Ang Thailand at Malaysia, halos everymonth, may ship visit ang US. Paano mo naman maasahan ang AFP? eh wala na nga sa gamit….

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    juan malakas tayo
    reduce mo lang by 50% borloloy sa gobyerno
    mabibili na natin
    1. lease 1 squadron gripen from sweden
    2. decomed frigates ng u.k.
    3. upgraded missile boats ng norway
    4. russian sam ssm shore batteries
    or from other non-u.s. suppliers

    bakit non u.s.?
    para umiwas sa coming
    u.s. – tsina war

    sa training
    daming overseas pilipino engineers
    gustong tumulong

  • antonioluna

     at ano ang maitutulong ng kanuto sa atin, labagin ang policy nilang hindi sila makikialam sa usapin tungkol sa spartly’s? anak ka naman ng tokwa saan ka naman kumuha ng datos na ang mga kanuto ay nakatulong sa atin, o sya sige humingi ka na ng tulong

  • antonioluna

     hindi nakatulong ang mga kanuto sa atin internal at external threats, nabuo ang CPP/NPA noong nandito pa sila samakatuwid kung ang iniisip natin na presensya pa lang nila ay matatakot na ang mga enemy of the states mukhang kabaligtaran ang nangyari, hindi nga rin natakot ang mga hapon na lusubin tayo kahit nandito sila noong ikalawang digmaang pandaigdig

  • antonioluna

     tapos mga magnanakaw pa ang mga heneral hehehe

  • Anonymous

    In its military dealings with the US, the Philippines should take a lesson from Viet Nam War. The US escalated the war there with South Viet Nam as its allies. When the US realized that it couldn’t win the war, it passed the burden to South Viet Nam in a policy called Vietnamization. When the US completely withdrew its forces, the communists from the north launched a massive attack against the south. Despite the repeated plea of President Thieu asking for assistance in terms of funds and supplies, the United States didn’t lift a finger to help the Southern Government which was about to be overcome by the communist. As a result the army of the south was routed. In that war the US abandoned and betrayed an ally. The United States is an unreliable ally. It will stab its friends on the back if it thinks doing so is for their best interest.

  • antonioluna

     mahina talaga ang loob mo juan, lalo na at alam mong mas malakas ang bumubully sa iyo hehehe

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    I agree with you joboni ok :D 

    Pero look at the advantage kung may official alliance tayo sa US at least – that will make the China think twice in trying to attack us kaysa tayo lang. Kaya ok lng ang mga alliance at pagbigay tulong ng US sa atin, igan. Lets keep an eye na lang sa US but let us make them an ally against China in its attempt to miltarily occupy our territories sa spratlys.

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    alam nilang
    atakbo-sa-australia mcarthur

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    to antonioluna:

    lol. eh ikaw nga takot na takot sa US eh haha. pero sa china na sumasakop ng teritoryo natin sa spratlys hindi ka takot hehehe.

  • Anonymous

    Very true.  Not only the Vietnamese were screwed by the Americans…Tibet, Hmong tribe of Cambodia, Afghans, Iraqi and oh, yeah, Filipino’s too!  Some Filipino’s here do not even know that our PH WW2 veterans had to sue the US govt to get their promised benefits.  They only recently won after more than 60 years of waiting.

    Americans can easily fool most Pinoys because of their propaganda.  All that Hollywood BS and lies in the media keeps most people ignorant about the real history of US hypocrisy and broken promises.

  • Anonymous

    Do you call 110,000 murdered civilians in Iraq as victory? Is it now peaceful in Iraq?

    In Afganistan, why do US still have troops there if there is allegedly victory?

  • Anonymous

    Do you call 110,000 murdered civilians in Iraq as victory? Is it now peaceful in Iraq?

    In Afganistan, why do US still have troops there if there is allegedly victory?

    Is Al Qaeda now inoperational ang never a threat in US mainland?

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    thanks juan
    too high a price to pay
    like in the past 100+ years

    mag astig na tayo at
    mag sakripisyo

    we are the 12th largest nation of the world
    and we better start acting like one

    india russia france can be better balancing allies

  • Anonymous

    Are you sure Iraq invasion was a victory? Did they find those alleged weapons of mass destruction? Do you consider 110,000 murdered civilians as victory?

    Do you think US was mighty in Vietnam war? Do you think US is mighty against its biggest creditor, China?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    to joboni:

    yeah actually india russia and france are good balancing allies i have no qualms about that :D the only problem is, they are not actively trying to create an alliance with us like the US. The US is the only world power that expressly supports us in our stand against China’s plan of invading territories in the Spratlys.

    But if India, russia, and france would actively support us, then by all means they are better allies. But right now only the US is willing. So if the US wants to help us by creating alliance and verbally supporting us, then let them do it. But we still have to be watchful and vigilant for their actions. That is all my point.

    Thank you too joboni for a nice intellectual conversation with you :D 

    (Di tulad ng conversation ko sa ibang tao na iniiwasan ang issue at walang sagot kung paano natin dedepensahan ang mga sarili natin against China’s aggression haha)

  • http://profiles.google.com/odredd Dredd Ofalexandria

    It all starts with a government policy to defend the Philippine territory with modern Navy and Airforce since we have almost 60 – 70% area covered by sea. So dapat ang initiative to buy weapons for the AFP comes from the Congress itself then the Senate. 

    So kung panay dakdak lang tayo dito, wala mangyayari.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IYNCLALDBQWG6EDPRLEAFGVMWU Joseph

    well kung ano ano man disadvantages ng temporary bases nila.. sana no MORE BULLY CHICOMS on PHILIPPINE TERRITORY.. a GOOD COMMUNIST is a DEAD COMMUNIST…

  • Anonymous

    You’re right, the Muslim rebels are our problem, so get out!!! We would treat them more humanely, but not as live shooting target like American Indians. I’m not blaming anyone, who says so? Just keep your noses out!!! US never solved any of the problems of the Philippines; not the Abu Sayyaf, not the Muslim rebels, not the NPAs, nothing.

    Let’s not be hypocrite. US is in the Philippines solely for its own interest.

  • Anonymous

    Irony, we are talking defense/offense against China. The truth is, this country will be dead if we are to be anti-china.

    Panot retarded is Chinese, the richest and influential people in this country were all Chinese. They just have to stop doing their business, go back to china.

    Ahahaha

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    Yes joseph sana no more Bullying from China :D

    Ang kinakainisan ko lang, bakit ang mga tao rito sobra ang galit sa US samantalang hindi sila galit sa China na inaatake mga barko natin para sakupin ang teritoryo natin sa Spratlys. Hai naman naman.

    May mga pagkakamali ang US pero bakit puro kamalian lang ng US ang nakikta nila? wala na bang mabuting ginawa ang US? Eh bakit ung China na sinasakop na nga ng pwesahan ang teritoryo natin sa Spratlys hindi sila galit? tpos puro US na naman ang criticism? hai naman grabe ang bias sa issue…

  • Anonymous

    Go Joes!  Let us support this allegiance but always be vigilant :)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    to caster1234: thanks for your support to my argument :) let us support US PH allegiance against China’s aggression against our territories in the Spratlys, but we must be vigilant to the US also.

    When we upgrade our own military technology, we will not need US help anymore. This is what we must focus while the US now temporarily helps us against China while we are still susceptible.

  • Artemio Piquero

    I agree Taga-Gusa ko.

  • Artemio Piquero

    When Americans come, Filipinos die in the thousands.

  • Artemio Piquero

    When Americans come, Filipinos die in the thousands.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    If communism reigns in the Philippines, Filipinos die in the thousands.

  • Anonymous

    walay taga cugman dira? hehehehehe

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QL66MR6RR6OGSACE4QRZJWC7JI Dr Sponklong

    To Artemio Piquero: When Americans come, Filipinos die in the thousand.s

    I concur

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    When communism comes, Filipinos die in the thousands.

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    actually they are interested in closer alliances
    france india russia etc
    problem is u.s. biased ang
    government specially dept foreign affairs
    long lead by the u.s.-colonized romulos

    salamat din juan
    sana’y mapanatili at mapayabong natin
    ang ating soberenya

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_36PRQQ7753IF2N2LB7RHNIVIAI kilroy

    lease some islands to usa in the spartly’s (no mining of whatever resources included in the agreement) . they’ll make it a copy of diego garcia. we keep them out of our main islands but also get protection at the same time. and the best part, jobs for our people in those US facilities if ever. FTW!

  • Anonymous

    There may be benefits both economically and strategically for the Philippines.  However, we also need to remember that there were several instance where the american soldiers have committed crimes and have gotten away with it with just a slap on the wrist.  If this can be resolve that just like in america, should american soldiers commit a crime in our country they will be also imprisoned and not be given special treatment like being imprisoned in the embassy. A revision in the agreement protecting the Filipino in the event of crimes should be added to it. What I am saying is protect the people of the host country.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QL66MR6RR6OGSACE4QRZJWC7JI Dr Sponklong

    yup. lots of generals will have plenty of money. corruption in the military will erupt

  • Anonymous

    Hollywood has many anti war actors and actresses…..In fact in 2003, many of them publicly expressed their opposition and disgust on that then looming Iraq Invasion. Ang US news media ay HINDI mapa propaganda, sila na rin ang nagbabalita sa mga issues kung saan may nakikitang pagkakamali ang US military.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    To joboni:

    I respect your opinion :D 

    But personally, I still hold to the opinion that the US may NOT be our best ally, but US can still be at LEAST a GOOD ally to the Philippines for NOW. Although I also think it is time to seek alliances with other countries aside from the US that will stand with our side against China’s aggression to our territory in the Spratlys.

    Thank you for your insights. Mabuhay ang soberanya ng Pilipinas.

  • Anonymous

    US has to bully and act aggrisively para hindi na sila singilin ng CHINA sa more than USD3 trillion na utang nila. After China partly & eventually ended financing the US Iraq/Afgan War ngayon sa baka sa IRAN naman. hay naku mga Intsik kailangan kaya kayo matutu na inuuto lang kaya ng mga KANO….kagaya din namin hehehehehehe.

  • Artemio Piquero

    America won’t be able 
    to confront tens of millions of Red Army troops in a land war with China.A U.S. 
    -China war by definition will be a nuclear war.But prior to that there will be a 
    war by proxy i.e. a Vietnam-like kind of war, and tens of thousands of Filipinos 
    inside the Philippines will die before a single Red Army or a U.S. soldier get 
    scratched. The war will be inPhilippines and not in America or China. (e.g. The 
    Chinese will support the MILF/MNLF/NPA and the Americans supports Manila).The 
    answer is neutrality. After so many wars since the 1500, Filipinos really should 
    know better by now.

  • Anonymous

    By all means please….hindi natin kaya tanggapin na natin….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    to artemio: The philippines is STILL NEUTRAL. 
    It is China who is blatantly attacking our territory in the philippines but we are still NEUTRAL. We don’t make a war with anybody and we do not make a proclamation that we are in opposition to China, just to some of its policies.

    We are just trying to modernize our military with the help of US. But modernization is still Neutral, ok.

  • Artemio Piquero

    na-ay taga Puerto mamaligya-ay ug tinap-ang mangko.

  • Anonymous

    hahahahah! payts!

  • Anonymous

    Fielding more U.S. military presence in the Philippines?  The Morong 43 will have nightmares.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    yes, the communist-leaning Morong 43 will sure have nightmares along with the other communists in the Philippines.

  • Anonymous

    and the Americans is using the same dreaded phrase again and again : ” in the name of democracy”. “to prevent spreading the influence of communism”. naku naman 1960′s pa yan oi..natalo na kayo sa mga BITKONG, sa mga MOKLO sa IRAK at baka sa mga TALIBS sa AFGA. Super baon na kayo sa utang. Ngayon sa pacific theater na naman kayo hihirit. anu ba talaga kuya??. Wala na kayong Pera e aasta pa kayo. Naloko nyo na at sinira ang Pinas sa WW2…ngayon sisirain na nman ulit ninyo. Alam mo Kano ang magaling nalang sa inyo ngayon is MEDIA BLITZ, pati yung drama nyo ni OBL ang galing!! Best Picture. pang Oscar. Mraming naloko doon lalo na sa probinsya namin.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    if US uses the phrase “in the name of democracy”, what about China now? “In the name of Communism” they are trying to invade our territories in the Spratlys?

  • Anonymous

    Jane Fonda was an anti-war activist but she and others like her don’t produce the movies or write the scripts of Hollywood movies.

    Josef Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda leader explained that the best propaganda is one that the victims do not know they are being manipulated.  In the 1930′s, the US military used Edward Bernays, the Father of modern PR (public relations) firms, to design a media strategy to change public opinion to support the military invasion of central American republics.  Today, it’s much more sophisticated.

    There is even a special bureau, the Film Liaison Office, that oversees these issues for the Pentagon and the Capitol. It has a clear mission: studying the scripts of American war movies, deciding whether to offer them support or not, depending on their interest for the country’s military leaders. 

    CNN, ABC News and Fox News are notorious for carrying stories with biased reporting…only carrying the American-side of the story but covering the historical background and facts about the indigenous characters of the story.  Also, the fact that they release non-stories, like “Which wife makes the best First Lady?” instead of talking about the issues in the Presidential campaign, is an example of how they cover the real story.

    The stories about military abuses only came to light after those stories were released to the internet by whistleblowers and other news services but they are able to control public opinion by “putting a spin” to it (go back to Edward Bernays) in order to make it look like the US military is actually doing something about it.

  • Anonymous

    as much as i hate to admit that we need the help of the US we must accept the help they’re extending the country. during the time they’re helping us defend our territory we must also bolster our military capabilities so that in the future we won’t need foreign help in defending our territories. just like what was stated earlier we must welcome them but we wary of them too

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    sorry juan
    history show otherwise

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    To joboni: History shows that communism killed thousands of people.

    History shows that when Pol pot and his communist soldiers invaded Cambodia during Khmer rouge, thousands (actually millions) are killed. Thousands are killed also when Stalin is in power during his purge in the Russian regime. Thousands are presently dying in the still state sponsored extermination camps in North korea run up to now.. When the chinese are rallying peacefully for a more democratic government in china, communist leaders in china ordered to massacre them in the Tiannamen Square.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    to jlibrn: I fully agree with your view :D

  • http://twitter.com/Perdition2012 Rey Gan

    tatalino na naman yang mga aktibista dahil ito lang basehan  sa mga unibersidad- ang pagiging anti-american.  kaya kulelat sila  sa ibang aspeto. 

  • Anonymous

    CNN,ABC are bias? look again, CNN exposed so many stories during the height of Iraq Insurgency by 2004-2008 duration, that made several Bush administration’s ally in both US senate and congress expressed their disgust and threatened to ban CNN,ABC,NBC,CBS from covering situations in Iraq….I understand there a few retired military officers that works in Hollywood, but their role as far as i know, are Military consultants for some films being produce that involves some military scenes. They work with film producers and directors by sharing how movie casts acts and help their pictures enhance into more like the real deal for their films they produced……Movies like “Greenzone” which its producers portrays the story about the mistake of the US justification prior to Iraq Invasion. The other recent one that i’ved seen was the movie “Fairgame” with actor Sean Penn. Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11 and some other more.

  • antonioluna

    me ganon, huwag mo akong itulad sa iyo na gustong pasakop sa kanuto pero ayaw sa china, ang stand ko tumayo ang pinas sa sariling paa gaano man kahirap nyang gagawin ito, so sino ang duwagis?kapag duwag ka kahit na sino pa ang bumully sa iyo duwag ka pa rin, sabagay ikaw siguro kahit magpagkamalang baboy ang anak mo at pagbabarilin eh tatahimik ka na lang ganoon ka kaduwagis eh hehehe

  • antonioluna

    paano lalaban ang coast guard?ang hirap ng tanong mo, eh di paputukin nila ang mga baril nila.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NXU2XGAHFDYLAQULE3TMTR6SWU Brando

    We have the money to spend for defense purposes. But the past and present presidents do not give priority for military spending. The Coast Guard needs 1.6 Billion Pesos to strengthen its force to secure the maritime interest of the country on West Philippine Sea. It is difficult to fund that. But when it comes to the dole out for the poor (ang mga tamad, pero magaling gumawa ng maraming bata, kaya poor) they can easily fund it with 17 Billion Pesos. ang tawag yata niya ay Conditional Cash Transfer (CCT) – thank to the idea of Dinky Soliman. Maalala ko may finding ang COA re CCT. Hindi maaccount ang pundo. Nawala sa balita. Na sa inner pages ng mga newspaers sa umpisa. Ngayon wala na. 

    In fairness to PNoy, nakabili na ng isa na Hamilton Class cutter for the Navy and gobierno. Pero sabi ng iba, inorder yon noong panahon pa ni GMA.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    quote from antonioluna: “huwag mo akong itulad sa iyo na gustong pasakop sa kanuto pero ayaw sa china”

    WALA akong sinabing pasasakop tayo sa US. sabi ko papatulong lang tayo sa US habang mahina pa ang military natin kaysa naman sakupin ng China ang mga teritoryo natin sa Spratlys.

    Bakit ikaw, gusto mong makuha ng China ang teritoryo natin pag inatake nila? Grabe ka naman. Pag nasa China ka ngayon, ni hindi ka man lang makakapagsalita laban sa Communist party ng China. Di tulad dito na may kalayaan ka tulad ng pagtuligsa mo ngayon sa pamahalaan sa pakikipag alyansa sa US. Sige punta ka sa China ha.

    “Paano tayo lalaban sa china? e di papaputukin ang baril” LOKO KA BA? BARIL LANG PAPAPUTUKIN MO EH ANG MGA BARKO NG CHINA KANYON ANG GAMIT? GANUN KALAKI ANG LAMANG NG CHINA SA MILITARY NATIN. KAYA NGA PAPATULONG MUNA TAYO PANANDALIAN SA US. nagets mo na? tpos ang gusto mo mangyari ngayon eh magmamatapang ka na baril ang gamit mo laban sa kanyon? loko ka ba?

  • antonioluna

     ako papasakop sa china eh wiling nga akong ilagay sa frontline para labanan sila at suhestiyon ko din na ang mga duwagis ay ifiring squad para hindi pamarisan, kaya bastusin ang pinas dahil nakararami ang duwag kumpara sa handang lumaban para sa bayan, kaya nga sa sobrang karuwagan ng mga tao dito kahit na garapal na si gloria noong panahon nya nanahimik na lang eh, kahit anong laban ke maliit o malaki ang kalaban sa mga katulad mong duwagis malamang mag iiyak ka na lang at kapag sinabihan ka ng kalaban mong huwag umiyak malamang humikbi ka na lang ang masakit nga sa mga duwagis na katulad mo malamang pati asawa at mga anak mo ay pababayaang mong lapastanganin sa harap mo dahil nga duwag ka, o sya hingi ka ng tulong kawawa ka naman.

  • Anonymous

    We have to admit that we are weak in terms of military capability… That we need the US in order to support us against China’s aggression. Better to seek their help, rather than believe in the CPP-NPA-NDF’s propaganda to oust them here. We have to poise our sovereignty by all means. Sige, paalisin natin ang US, tpos nakatunganga tayo pg tinapak-tapakan tayo ng China. Ano ipanglalaban natin? Placard? Streamer? Effigy? Rally?? People Power??? ANO? 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    To Antionioluna:

    Oh ayaw mo naman palang pasakop sa china eh. eh di DAPAT KONTRAHIN MO RIN ANG PAGSAKOP NG CHINA NG TERITORYO NATIN SA SPRATLYS. KAYA NGA kailangan natin ng PANANDALIANG TULONG NG US HABANG PAPALAKASIN NATIN MGA ARMAS NATIN. 

    Sabi mo: “Paano lalaban ang coast guard? e di papaputukin ang baril” LOKO KA BA? BARIL LANG PAPAPUTUKIN MO EH ANG MGA BARKO NG CHINA KANYON ANG GAMIT? kaya nga kailangan muna panandalian ang tulong ng US. Panandalian habang nagpapalakas tayo para sa hinaharap di na natin kailangan tulong US. gets mo?

    Temporary help lang ng US muna ngaun HABANG MAHINA PA MILITARY NATIN kaysa naman masakop ng China ang teritoryo natin sa Spratlys lalo na’t di sila tumatalima sa mga kasunduang pangkapayapaan sa Spratlys.

    Nagets mo na ba?

    To bb_demokrasya: I fully agree with you :)

  • Anonymous

    I would like to believe that this is the main agenda behind the acquisition of US Coast Guard Hamilton class cutter now known as our own BRP Gregorio del Pilar and the impending transfer, worth million of dollars, by FBI of the IAFIS or the automatic fingerprint identification system to our NBI. Plus if one recalls there was that statement previously from PNoy regarding appeal of acquiring US made fighter jets? So, this could be the big picture above those seemingly favorable actions by the US govt to us.

    But having said that, I’ll tend to favor in this talk provided that deal must be well balanced if not more favorable to our country. Unlike the previous treaty where the US merely treat us like a beggar in terms of the aid they provided us in lieu of the naval base they installed at Subic Bay. If our govt can reach a deal similar to what Israel is getting out of their treaty with the US why not?

    I don’t think one with considerable discernment of what we have today can say that we can defend or we’ll have a chance in case of military aggression by China? Even in the absence of military arsenal we have no match to them. The only option so far for us is the current diplomatic way but I don’t think that’s a big deal if our adversary in the disputed territory will eventually decide for military action?

    The most important I believe we need to do is to be very vigilant with this talk. We need to make our voice loud & clear to our govt officials concerned that they can’t only decide for their own interests but for the welfare of Filipino people in general even if this is temporary as reported! 

  • Anonymous

    Ang labanan kontra China ay di magaganap sa lupa ng Luzon, Visayas at Mindanao.
    Puro sa karagatan at sa mga isla sa Spratly at sa Scarborough Shoal (sa may Pangasinan). Kasama ng aagawin ng China ang Malampaya Field at saka yung nearby Galoc and Linapacan oil Field. Kapag naagaw na ay tapos na ang laban.

    Ang giyera ay naval and air.

    Ang tatamaan lang sa lupa ng Pilipinas ay ang runway ng Airforce base sa Floridablanca, Fernando AB (Batangas), Palawan at pede ring madamay ang runway ng  Villamor at sa Mactan.

    Walang balak sakupin ang China na parte ng Pilipinas except Sptratly, Scarborough Shoal, at 20 miles from Philippine shores from Ilocos to Balabac Is.

    Kaya ang kailangan ay BARKO at EROPLANO.

    Kung hindi pa kaya ng Pilipinas, very logical na makipag-alliance sa tinuturing na kaibigang bansa. Alliances ay normal at tamang paraan na ginagawa even before times, nung panahon ng Corintho, Sparta, Sumeria, Persia etc.

    Kahit yung Palau na kung saan dinadayo ng mga mangingisdang Taiwanese at Pilipino illegally ay humingi ng tulong sa Australia para palayasin ang mga illegal Filipino Taiwanese Fisherman sa kanilang sakop na karagatan. Ang  daming patrol boat equipped with Australian UHF/VHF ang Palau. For 50 years na ay di pa kayang mag-armas ng Palau kaya they are asking their big (outback) brother for support.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    I agree with Bad Ong. Let the US help us now since we are militarily weak as of now. But we must remain vigilant. The government must focus now on upgrading our military so time will come that we don’t need US help. That is the best plan in this scenario.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    I quote from Del Pilar: “Kung hindi pa kaya ng Pilipinas, very logical na makipag-alliance sa tinuturing na kaibigang bansa. Alliances ay normal at tamang paraan na ginagawa even before times, nung panahon ng Corintho, Sparta, Sumeria, Persia etc.” 

    Kaya nga igan, tanggapin muna natin ang tulong ng US temporarily at pag upgraded na lahat ng military natin, kaya na natin kahit wala US. Ganun lang kasimple. Pero habang tumutulong ang US, bantayan natin mga kilos nila. That is the most logical action to take given our country’s scenario right now.

  • http://twitter.com/Perdition2012 Rey Gan

    Without the US presence in the disputed islands, we will always be under the mercy of a bully in the area- the Chinese.  Kailan lang napabalita meron na naman violation ginawa ang mga chinese para mag-reklamo ang pinas sa UN. Pero kahit UN walang magagawa sa pag-siga-sigahan ng China.  Ngayon with the US seriously siding with us, let’s see how these Chinese bullies play their “scare-you” tactics.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    I fully agree with Rey Gan :)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IHIGXKY2VSZMWWW4ZYDWQ5E5RE Mong Pohgi

    Mas mainam nga na magkaroon ulit ng Navy base sa Pilipinas. Nasa US Navy ako working as a mechanic. Libo-libong mga Filipinos pa na katulad ko ang myembro ng US Navy. Karamihan sa amin ay may kamag-anak sa Pilipinas. It will be a “dream duty assignment” ang Pilipinas kung may base jan.

  • Anonymous

    Fulpol and Obama (with translator)

    Fulpol: bakit naman interesado kayo palawigin ang US military presence sa Pilipinas?

    Obama: alam mo kasi Fulpol, may obvious if not critical threat from outside ang iyong bansang pilipinas.

    Fulpol: anong threat yun Obama?

    Obama: isa ay terrorist coming from outside and pangalawa, yung aggressiveness ng ibang bansa para sakupin ang inyong territory.

    Fulpol: bakit naman kayo nakikiaalam?

    Obama: yan kasi ang request ni Noynoy, ang palakasin ang inyong capability.. alam mo naman, friends ng mga Aquino ang Amerika since the time of Ninoy in Boston.

    Fulpol: serious ba talaga ang China na sakupin ang Spratly’s islands?

    Obama: mas mabuti yung ma-mitigate agad ang anumang plano ng China..

    Fulpol: di kaya interesado kayo sa oil ng Pilipinas na matatagpuan sa Sulu Sea, south of Gensan at West of Palawan?

    Obama: hindi naman kami interesado sa oil ninyo. alam mo naman, malaki pa ang reserve namin sa Iraq, Saudi at Alaska. Tapos isusunod na namin ang Iran at Venezuela. Iba pa yung nasa Africa.

    Fulpol: baka naman, ang Philippine oil ang last reserve ng buong mundo.. di kaya sa Pilipinas magsisimula ang World War 3?

    Obama: malabo yan iniisip mo Fulpol. walang World War 3 kasi naman advance na ang technology ngayon.. at saka, wasak ang buong humanity pag nagkataon.

    Fulpol: pero aabutin pa siguro ng isa pang century para maging sustainable na ang source ng energy ang mundo. kaya, oil pa rin ang magpapatakbo ng economy ng buong mundo.

    Obama: may katotohanan yang sinasabi mo Fulpol.. pero hindi papayag ang Amerika na sasakupin ng isang bansa ang ibang bansa dahil lang sa oil.

    Fulpol: gaya ba ng ginawa ng Amerika ang pag-invade sa Iraq at Afghanistan?

    Obama: hindi naman oil ang habol namin sa Iraq kundi baguhin ang gobyerno at social structure doon.

    Fulpol: ah ganun ba? kung oil talaga ang habol ng China, pwede bang sina Drilon at De lima na lang ang kunin nila?

    Obama: sina Drilon at De Lima? bakit naman?

    Fulpol: kasi ma-mantika sila..

    hahahaha
    hahahaha
    hahahahaha

  • Anonymous

    Fulpol and Obama (with translator)

    Fulpol: bakit naman interesado kayo palawigin ang US military presence sa Pilipinas?

    Obama: alam mo kasi Fulpol, may obvious if not critical threat from outside ang iyong bansang pilipinas.

    Fulpol: anong threat yun Obama?

    Obama: isa ay terrorist coming from outside and pangalawa, yung aggressiveness ng ibang bansa para sakupin ang inyong territory.

    Fulpol: bakit naman kayo nakikiaalam?

    Obama: yan kasi ang request ni Noynoy, ang palakasin ang inyong
    capability.. alam mo naman, friends ng mga Aquino ang Amerika since the
    time of Ninoy in Boston.

    Fulpol: serious ba talaga ang China na sakupin ang Spratly’s islands?

    Obama: mas mabuti yung ma-mitigate agad ang anumang plano ng China..

    Fulpol: di kaya interesado kayo sa oil ng Pilipinas na matatagpuan sa Sulu Sea, south of Gensan at West of Palawan?

    Obama: hindi naman kami interesado sa oil ninyo. alam mo naman, malaki
    pa ang reserve namin sa Iraq, Saudi at Alaska. Tapos isusunod na namin
    ang Iran at Venezuela. Iba pa yung nasa Africa.

    Fulpol: baka naman, ang Philippine oil ang last reserve ng buong mundo.. di kaya sa Pilipinas magsisimula ang World War 3?

    Obama: malabo yan iniisip mo Fulpol. walang World War 3 kasi naman
    advance na ang technology ngayon.. at saka, wasak ang buong humanity pag
    nagkataon.

    Fulpol: pero aabutin pa siguro ng isa pang century para maging
    sustainable na ang source ng energy ang mundo. kaya, oil pa rin ang
    magpapatakbo ng economy ng buong mundo.

    Obama: may katotohanan yang sinasabi mo Fulpol.. pero hindi papayag ang
    Amerika na sasakupin ng isang bansa ang ibang bansa dahil lang sa oil.

    Fulpol: gaya ba ng ginawa ng Amerika ang pag-invade sa Iraq at Afghanistan?

    Obama: hindi naman oil ang habol namin sa Iraq kundi baguhin ang gobyerno at social structure doon.

    Fulpol: ah ganun ba? kung oil talaga ang habol ng China, pwede bang sina Drilon at De lima na lang ang kunin nila?

    Obama: sina Drilon at De Lima? bakit naman?

    Fulpol: kasi ma-mantika sila..

    hahahaha

    hahahaha

    hahahahaha

  • Anonymous

    wala namang kinalaman ang mga amerikano sa pagkabuo ng CCP/NPA. Aminin na po natin na sa panahon ngayon mas kailangan po natin ang kanilang tulong ngayon lalong lalo na sa mga kagamitan upang mas maprotektahan natin ang ating bansa.Kung tayo po ay tutulad sa grupong CPP/NPA na paalisin ang mga amerikano, ano po ang pwede nating ipang tapat sa nangbubully sa atin na bansang China? rally? streamer? at isa pa po ang nangyari po cguro noong unang panahon ay iba sa kalagayan o sitwasyon na hinaharap natin ngayon.

  • Anonymous

    wala namang kinalaman ang mga amerikano sa pagkabuo ng CCP/NPA. Aminin na po natin na sa panahon ngayon mas kailangan po natin ang kanilang tulong lalong lalo na sa mga kagamitan upang mas maprotektahan natin ang ating bansa.Kung tayo po ay tutulad sa grupong CPP/NPA na paalisin ang mga amerikano, ano po ang pwede nating ipang tapat sa nangbubully sa atin na bansang China? rally? streamer? at isa pa po ang nangyari po cguro noong unang panahon ay iba sa kalagayan o sitwasyon na hinaharap natin ngayon.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    I agree with jhosalopez :)

    The most logical action to take given our country’s scenario right now is – tanggapin muna natin ang tulong ng US temporarily at pag upgraded na lahat ng military natin, kaya na natin kahit wala US. Ganun lang kasimple. Pero habang tumutulong ang US, bantayan natin mga kilos nila. ganun lang iyon.

    Yung mga ayaw sa temporaryong pagtulong ng US sa atin ngayon, wala naman silang ibang magandang plano sa pagpapalakas ng depensa natin sa China. Hindi naman sa lahat, pero marami sa kanila ang alam lang ay mag rally. Ang mga rallies at streamer o kahit na people power – walang kwenta yan pag sinakop ng China ang teritoryo natin sa Spratlys.

  • Anonymous

    US bases in Guiuan, Eastern Samar now!

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    the more reason
    why we should absent ourselves
    from the u.s. – tsina war

  • Anonymous

    Tama po kayo sa sinabi nyo… ilang taon na po nating naririnig at nakikita ang ilan sa ating mga kababayan lalo na ang mga kabataan na sumasali sa mga rally at sumisigaw ng kung anu-ano sa kalsada pero kahit kailan ay hindi nakatulong upang maprotektahan at mapaunlad ang ating bansa.. nararapat po sigurong tigilan na nila ang mga gawain na iyon at sa halip ay suportahan nalang ang gobyerno upang mapaunlad ang ating bansa…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    Unless we have another nation as strong as US as our ally against Chinese aggression, then we must accept US help.

    Or risk Spratlys to be invaded right now by an aggressive China as we are not mililtarily advanced yet.

  • Anonymous

    Juan thanks for subscribing to my views. You’re right, let’s be positive that time will come we can stand up and be proud to rely on our military capabilities in defending our sovereign land. But for now I think we have to welcome any opportunity that will give us chance in that direction provided it’s fair or advantageous to us not for the sake or interests of few in the govt or other country like US.

  • Anonymous

    Andaming hypocrite dito. Ayaw sa US, pero gustong gusto sa US tumira. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    Youre right jhoshalopez. Yung iba magaling lang mag criticize ng gobyerno pero yung mga plano nila tulad ng pagpapatalsik sa lahat ng Amerikano ay hindi naman lohikal. Kung pinatalsik ang mga Amerikano ngaun agad agad HABANG DI PA TAYO MALAKAS, eh di SASAKUPIN NA TALAGA ng China ang teritoryo natin sa Spratlys.

    Ung maraming mga anti-americans jan, WALA SILANG PAGKONDENA sa China sa pananakop ng teritoryo natin sa Spratlys. BAKIT KAYA? pag kano ayaw agad, pag China umatake sa atin, wala silang pagkondena. Biased talaga.

    May mga mali ang amerikano dahil tao lang din sila PERO BAKIT PURO MALI ang mga nakikita ng mga nagrarally laban sa mga amerikano. Samantalang MARAMI RING TULONG ang naibigay ng Amerika sa Pilipinas.

    Tpos pag China ang umatake sa Spratlys, wala naman masyadong kontra ang mga anti americans na ito. China na nga ang umatake sa atin, US pa sinisisi nila. Biased talaga.

    Tpos itong China na nga ang umaatake sa teritoryo natin at ang Amerika ay nagmamagandang loob, PILIT pa ring pinapasama ang US pero China hindi nila kinokondena. Mga biased talaga.

  • Anonymous

    well, sa balitang ito for sure may mapapakinabangan naman tayo sa pananatili ng mga US forces dito sa ating bansa. Isa na na don ay ang mga hi-tech nilang war equipments, mga barko at eroplano, malaking tulong ito para sa AFP na natin na aminin na nating 20yrs behind na ang mga gamit pan digma. I’m sure may mga do’s and dont’s naman ang pag stay ng mga kano dito dba? at tiyak, mababantayan sila ng ating gobyerno at kasama na tayo don sa pagbabantay sa kanila. For now, isipin muna natin ang mga benefits na makukuha natin sa kanila… =) 

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    dati ng iniinvade ng tsina ang kalayaan

    noong wala pang interes ang u.s.
    na dagdagan at palakihin ang mga
    tagong stealth bases nila dito
    hindi pinapansin yan

    ngayong gusto nilang bakbakan ang tsina
    kailangan nila ang ipapahamak
    tayong mga pilipino

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    to joboni

    quote from you: “dati ng iniinvade ng tsina ang kalayaan” 

    E DI INAMIN MO NAMAN PALA na SINUSUBUKAN NG TSINA NA SAKUPIN ANG MGA TERITORYO NATIN. Ngayong inamin mo na may balak sakupin ng China ang ilang teritoryo ng Pilipinas, ANONG GAGAWIN NATIN? HAHAYAAN na lang ba natin ang China na sakupin ang teritoryo natin sa SPRATLYS? Papatalsikin ba dapat natin agad agad ang US HABANG MAHINA PA MILITARY technology natin? E di sakop agad Spratlys nun ng China pag nangyari iyon.

    Hindi ba MAS LOHIKAL na tanggapin muna natin temporaryo ang alok na tulong ng Amerika habang mahina pa militar natin para pigilin ang Tsina? o hahayaan mo na lang bang sakupin ng China ang teritoryo natin, na inaamin mong may balak silang gawin?

  • Anonymous

    Marahil po siguro ay hindi nila lubos na naiintindihan ang kabutihan na maidudulot ng pagkakaroon ng US military expansion sa ating bansa. Kung sakali pong matuloy ang binabalak ng US na mag-expand dito, natitiyak ko pong hindi lang iilan ang makikinabang dito kundi tayong lahat at sakali mang mangyari ito, hindi na tayo kailan man mangangamba ng ano mang pagbabanta mula sa ibang bansa dahil ang ating mga kasundaluhan ay may sapat ng kaalaman sa pakikidigma at tiyak na kaya na nitong protektahan ang ating mga nasasakupan.

    isa pa po ay matutulungan din nila ang mga kababayan nating kapos hinggil sa serbisyong medikal dahil alam naman po nating ilan sa mga amerikanong ito ay magaling at marurunong sa panggagamot..

    kapansin-pansin rin naman ang kanilang mga tulong tuwing may mga sakuna na nangyayari sa ating bansa, talaga namang maasahan sila.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6CBIKLWXSJKDGGV5OOCI745Z34 Juan

    Tama ka jhoshalopez :) 

    May MGA MALI ang mga Amerikano, pero HINDI NAMAN MAGANDA na PURO MALI NA LANG NG MGA AMERIKANO ang pansinin natin, tulad ng ginagawa ng mga anti-americans jan. Napakarami ring tulong ang ibinigay ng mga Amerikano.

    Ang mga Amerikano nga, mas marami pa silang tulong na ibinigay sa Pilipinas kaysa sa mga komunista jan tulad ng NPA na walang ginawa kundi mangikil sa kapwa. Mas marami ring naitulong ng mga amerikano kaysa sa mga puro rally lang ang alam jan at puro kritisismo lang ang alam.

    Tapos, marami sa mga anti-americans jan, BIASED pa sa issue. Itong China na nga umaatake sa atin sa Spratlys, US pa rin sinisisi nila. Grabe naman ang bias ng mga taong ito.

    Itong China na nga ang umaatake sa teritoryo natin PILIT pa ring pinapasama ang US. US na nga ang nagmamagandang loob. Pero China WALA O KAUNTI LANG ANG PAGKONDENA NILA sa pag atake sa teritoryo natin sa Spratlys. Grabe talaga bias ng mga taong ito.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C7NDKVKKYO4WPQSIPYATRSFCGI Henry

    Ang hindi kac maintindihan sa bansa natin lalo na sa ating mga Pinoy wala pa nga hinuhusgahan na natin…gumawa man at sa hindi ng hakbang ang Gobyerno natin pareho lang negative ang pananaw iisa lang gobyerno natin iisa lang ang Presidente hindi ako maka Pnoy pro wala na tayong magawa kasi andyan na cya nakaupo….the best magawa natin is to shut our loud mouth and support our Gov’t in that way sa pagkakaisa natin meron tayo ma a achieve and that’s for sure…. 

  • Anonymous

    Ahhhoooy!!!!!  there is oil in them thar spratleys,
    Part of the plan for the US control of this scarce resource in the age of peak oil,
     Well we as a third world country have not the technical ability to develop these resources or defend it, Uncle Sam will do it but he will have first share!!!

  • Anonymous

    Aminin na po natin malaki talaga ang naitutulong ng US sa ating bansa. Sa panahon ng kalamidad di ba nandyan agad sila para saklolohan tayo. Malaki din ang naiambag nila sa modernization ng AFP. Ang mga kagamitang ito di ba tayo naman din ang nakikinabang? Kung iisipin nga ang iba nating mga kababayan na puro salita lang ang alam eh wala naman naitutulong sa bansa pero sila na hindi natin kapwa Pilipino pero handang tumulong sa atin. Isipin na lang po kasi natin ang positibo at magandang nagagawa ng US para sa ating bansa. 

  • Anonymous

    the americans can fight all types of war, biological, nuclear, economic and conventional,  it is the psyce war they will play here, the war for “minds and hearts” it is the safer option just give us enough of the soaps and  hollywood to us gulliable and then they will be an agreement and divide the spoils shared with china

  • Anonymous

    syempre in cash. tingin ko naman we can set the terms and condition this time favoring the philippines.  let’s face it, kelangan din naman natin ng extra income saka military support. 

  • Anonymous

    Agree po ako sa sinabi ninyo!!!! marami na po akong narinig na paglabag ng karapatang pantao ng grupong NPA gaya nalamang ng pangingikil sa ilang mamamayan, pagsunog at higit sa lahat pagpatay ng walang awa sa ilang mga sebilyan. Grabe naman talaga!!! Mas mabuti po talaga na unahin muna nating supilin ang mga NPA at iba pang makakaliwang grupo dahil halata naman na sila ang pinaka unang threat sa ating bansa.. mas mabuti pong pagtimabang-timbangin muna ng mga kritikong ito ang kahalagahan ng US expansion sa ating bansa at huwag maging BIASED gaya ng sinabi ninyo..

  • antonioluna

    ang iba kasi sa atin ang tingin nila sa presensya ng kano ay makakapanakot sa anumang banta maging panloob o panlabas yon ang ibig kong sabihin, alangan namang kano ang nagbuo ng grupong kumunista dito sa ating bansa, hindi naman iyan katulad ng mga abu sayaf na sila mismo ang nagbuo at nagsanay.

  • antonioluna

    talaga kanyon ang ginagamit nila sa barko natin?hehehe, o sya humingi ka na ng tulong

  • antonioluna

    kaya nga naiintindihan na kita basta’t alam mong mas malaki ang kalaban hindi ka lalaban bagkos hihingi ka na ng tulong, yong mga ganyang ugali walang natatangap na respeto kaya nga ganon na lang tayo bastusin ng kung sinu sino eh

  • antonioluna

    dyan ako duda bro, history tells basta kano ang kausap natin laging onerous ang agreement.

  • Anonymous

    kaya nga po, nakakabuti po siguro na simulan nating baguhin ang maling paniniwala ng iba tungkol sa mga amerikano sa simpleng pagsuporta sa ating pamahalaan kung sakaling pumayag na palawigin ang expansion ng US military role dito sa ating bansa.. nararapat din po na maging positibo at bukas tayo sa mga oportunidad na binibigay sa ating bansa,…

  • antonioluna

    bukas naman ang pinas sa mga opportunidad pero kung alam mo ng wala kang mapapala bakit ka pa sasabak?noong nandirito ang mga base militar nagkaroon ba ng ngipin ang pamahalaan para singilin sila sa panananili, hindi di ba at ipinamumukha pa sa atin na tayo pa ang may utang na loob, may masasabi ka bang pakinabang bukod sa paglaganap ng kaputahan noon?nagkaroon na ba ng agreement sa pagitan ng pinas at kano na paborable sa atin? alam mo bang ang VFA ay para lamang sa pagbisita ng mga sundalong kano sa ating bansa at hindi ang pananatili pero ang sabi ni lt. nancy gadian na mula ng maipasa ang VFA at hindi na muli umalis ang mga sundalong kano at sila ay kumakanlong sa mga liblib na kampo natin sa mindanao o zamboanga dyan pa lang makikita mo na na hindi lamang china ang bumabastos sa atin kung hindi pati na rin ang mga kano, so anong kabutihan ang idudulot na pananatili nila kung hindi rin lamang kaya takutin ang kahit sino na manggulo sa atin?natakot ba ang NPA sa kanila?ang mga MILF?natakot ba ang hapon?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NXU2XGAHFDYLAQULE3TMTR6SWU Brando

    But I know, with or without the US help, the Filipino soldier will fight to the last drop of his blood defending this country from any threat – China included. Now let me ask you. How many of you followers of PNoy and those in the oposition who will volunteer to fight alongside with our soldiers when the Chinese attack our homeland? Kung gaano kayo kadaldal sa site na ito ganoon din ba kayo kapursige sa pag volunteer to join our army and be ready to die for our country?

    I sense kunti lang. At mas maraming magsabi sama ako from those in the opposition. Hindi nga kayo nag ROTC when you were in college. Makipaglaban pa kaya? Hahahaha!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_T42Q37DX5BRWJ5NRYTBC2DXUAU Jols – batman Robin

    galit na naman ang mga NPA nto…..yung mga front liner jan mag raraly na naman yan…mabuti na rin yun nandito yung mga kano para kahit paano may tutulong sa atin…dahil yung communist china may advance forces n sa atin ung mga NPA…

  • Artemio Piquero

    When Americans come, thousands of Filipinos will die and the country will be bombed to smitheren…again.

    US-China war will not be fought in China. It will not be fought in America. It will be fought in the Philippines…again.

    After so many wars since the 1500, Filipinos should really know better by now. Siding with any foreign country only caused millions of Filipino lives. Where are our historians?

    Declare neutrality.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NXU2XGAHFDYLAQULE3TMTR6SWU Brando

    Kukunin nga ng China ang pagaari mo. Neutrality ka pa rin? Gongong ka!

  • Artemio Piquero

    The Chinese will give us siopao, pansit Canton (espesyal) and lugaw.The Americans will give us bullets to kill or get killed…..pero may picture na man for souvenir.

  • Anonymous

    Judging from the majority of the post here most Filipinos do not know what I’m talking about.
    I’m not disputing independence as a right of a nation. You took my words out of context. I’m talking about economic independence and less foreign dependency from a country that the Filipinos once drove out. Now you want the US back to do the things that they use to do when the bases were there to save you from the Chinese. It’s hypocritical to say the least. I myself am glad that for once the Philippines is functioning without any foreign power in its soil. Is it worth it? Yes but since the bases left our coasts were left open to smugglers, intrusion by Chinese fishing boats and now the Chinese Navy. The Philippine military can’t even handle the small boats. That is what you call arrogance. You think you can but you really can’t do it on your own militarily. Do I want the bases back? No. I’m sure most Americans do not want them back either.
    The Philippines was a strategic location, not anymore. If they are going to spend more it is because it’s a good justification not to drastically cut the military and to support the defense industries, which leads to my point. The Philippines should concentrate more on its domestic issues and avoid falling in this arms race trap where it can’t afford and can’t win. Look at the lesson of the cold war. The only winners were the arms industry from both sides. Instability in a region creates a threat that is imaginary and leaves an opportunity for those few who can capitalize on it.
    If the whole world really need each other like you said and I’m not disputing it, would you really think that the Philippines is going to be a colony by some colonial power in this day and age? What coffee are you drinking? China is not a fool to go to war. They love their money so much the only thing on their mind is how to make more money. Don’t compare the Philippines to Taiwan. Their relationship with China is deeper than the Philippines relationship with the US. At least Taiwan is adamant in keeping their stance with China while we are asking the US to come to our aid. A country where we once defied and most Filipinos continually blame for the all the problems that the Philippines are facing. It is the greatest irony of all. We say one thing then we turn around and contradict ourselves. No wonder we don’t get the respect from other nations. Your reasoning about slavery in the old world civilization is not acceptable today. The slow pace of progress back then is not even comparable in today’s standards. For you to even compare Filipino OFWs to slaves is pathetic. You blame the corrupt politicians but how about the people in general who allows the culture of corruption to continue?
    My point is exactly what I’ve said. The Philippines should make it a priority to concentrate more on its domestic issues first and be relevant economically rather than waste time with the Chinese over the Spratley. Once the Philippines achieve that goal of becoming an economic power then maybe it can build its military capability to show the world that as a nation the Philippines really matter and you can fight like real men or at least think that way. So like you said, don’t invite Uncle Sam again unless you want to catch cold.
    Then again it’s only my opinion. It’s funny you call me an arrogant pretentious American. I for one am not pretending. I am a Filipino who just happens to be a tax paying American citizen who opposes all this non-sense regarding the Chinese. At least I know where I live. Do you?

  • Anonymous

    may point ka dyan. mahirap talaga magtiwala sa kanila. kaya nga dapat natin aralin mabuti yun policies na papabor sa atin.  at huwag na huwag sana ibenta ang dangal ng mga mamamahal nito kung sakali. bilang kaalyado, kelangan din nila ang pinas para makaposisyon sila strategically. re: onerous agreement, siguro naman bro, iba yun panahon noon, 100 years ago noong sinimulan yun lease ng mga base militar kesa sa panahon ngayon.  mas marunong na siguro ang mga pinoy ngayon kumpara noon. 

  • Artemio Piquero

    Excellent write up!

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    nasipa mo na nga u.s.
    pababalikin mo pang mas marami

    astig at sakripisyo
    kailangan natin
    hindi pagbabalik sa isang kolonya

    ginagamit lang ng u.s.
    yang spratlys
    para madagdagan at maparami
    tagong stealth bases nila
    for u.s. – tsina war

    noong walang gusto sa atin
    kinuha ng tsina ang mischief reef
    walang kibo

    susunod na pangakit nyan
    ang mga lumang gamit pandigma nila
    na kailangang demobilize
    dahil wala ng pera tapos
    ibebenta sa atin

  • Artemio Piquero

    I agree.

  • Artemio Piquero

    It has been peaceful in the Pacific for the last 20 years at a time when U.S. presence was scarce.

    Now, the U.S. is back big time.

    There will be blood.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NXU2XGAHFDYLAQULE3TMTR6SWU Brando

    I feel sad…very sad. After 1 hour walang nag comment sa sinabi ko which I again posted hereunder. Ibig sabihin, kunti lang ang handang makipaglaban till death for country and people? I am frustrated.

    But I know, with or without the US help, the Filipino soldier will fight to the last drop of his blood defending this country from any threat – China included. Now let me ask you. How many of you followers of PNoy and those in the oposition who will volunteer to fight alongside with our soldiers when the Chinese attack our homeland? Kung gaano kayo kadaldal sa site na ito ganoon din ba kayo kapursige sa pag volunteer to join our army and be ready to die for our country?

    I sense kunti lang. At mas maraming magsabi sama ako from those in the opposition. Hindi nga kayo nag ROTC when you were in college. Makipaglaban pa kaya? Hahahaha!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NXU2XGAHFDYLAQULE3TMTR6SWU Brando

    Mango ka

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NXU2XGAHFDYLAQULE3TMTR6SWU Brando

    What should be our answer to the bullying of China over the West Philippine Sea, aber? Wala ka naman recommendation. It is just like kakunin na ng kapitbahay mong macho ang asawa mo wala ka pa rin gagawin? Hahaha!

  • Artemio Piquero

    Psst….tahimik ka pare…tayo lang dalawa nandito….bina-block na nang taga- Roxas Blvd yong iba.

  • Anonymous

    I like that idea. That is what Singapore did when they upgraded their F5 A/Bs to F5 E/Fs. It’s a good short to mid term strategy. If RP is provided thru loan the $1.2B F-20 technology of Northrop, we can then do some more advancement in the long term, just like Taiwan’s building the F-CK-1 with the help of General Dynamics. In that way US could also employ lots of Americans to fabricate the GE engine, the avionics, the missile system, and critical parts to support the final production and assembly in PH. The intention is purely self defense thus we will not have any intention of exporting or building competing versions to American aircraft unless permitted by US. PH could then be more useful to the US as an ally in preserving the balance in Southeast Asia. Large number of jobs will also be generated in both countries. Bill, please write to your senator and congressmen.

  • Anonymous

    That’s the problem. The US gives financial aid knowing full well that the aid will just be corrupted. What I meant by US eating the PHs lunch is that it is impeding PHs growth by enabling administrations to be corrupt. Through the corruption, the Abu Sayyaf, the MILF, and the NPA are gaining support which further impedes our growth.

    THE US should not “give fish crumbs”. If it is able to “GIVE the fishing rods” to Singapore and Taiwan, let RP at least “BUY the fishing rods” if US sincerely considers RP an ally.

  • Anonymous

    Referendum IS the SOLUTION to SHUT UP these leftists groups.

  • Anonymous

    In order to put to rest the arguments of the leftists Maoists and Marxists regarding putting up a US bases in the Philippines, these should be done through a REFERENDUM. Let the Filipino people speak, not the annoying leftists and their politician cohorts. These Marxists doesn’t speak for the MAJORITY of the Filipino people!

  • Artemio Piquero

    When Americans come, thousands of Filipinos will die and the country will be bombed to smitheren…again.US-China war will not be fought in China. It will not be fought in America. It will be fought in the Philippines…again.After so many wars since the 1500, Filipinos should really know better by now. Siding with any foreign country only caused millions of Filipino lives. Where are our historians?Declare neutrality.

  • Anonymous

    if 110,000 iraqi is killed that is collateral damage. What do you call t the 3100 people killed at the twin tower.

    in afganistan – the coalition forces  are living that country for them to run the gov’t themselves.

    Al qaeda terrorism has been at a low point

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for agreeing, Bill. I appreciate it.

  • Artemio Piquero

    maupay yana imo pensada.

  • Anonymous

    No need for US mil presence. PH has earmarked $1.5B budget for military equipment. While building up our defenses and protecting the region, more jobs could be generated in both US and PH.

    US should sell to PH the finished but abandoned $1.2B F-20A Tigershark program and technology of Northrop for half the price or less. It will give us the capability to refurbish and upgrade our decommissioned F-5s into F-5E/F. It will also allow us to build enough new Tigersharks for self-defense. US could manufacture and sell the critical parts to us.

    PH MUST NOT NOT BUY FIGHTERS like several expensive F-16 or -18. Without the ability to upgrade or build them, they’l just be obsolete sooner or later or crash and we’ll end up with nothing again eventually.

    PH should also acquire NH90 or Super Lynx multi-role helicopters for anti-ship/submarine, search and rescue, air to ground support, and troop transport. These can be carried by Coast Guard cutters or based on land.

    Buy second hand but young C-130s and more second-hand coast guard cutters with helipads and on board medical facilities.

    and brand new bullet-proof vests, personal radio communication, and night vision equipment for each soldier of our special forces.

  • http://twitter.com/captmanny1 Manny Ucat

    To much noise that’s enough. We want U.S Philippine Statehood. No to chinese statehood.

  • Anonymous

    asya balit

  • Anonymous

    balitaw

  • Anonymous

    dream on, that’s good. That’s is what you are good at. …..Keep dreaming.

  • Faith Diao

    Maupay it kokabildo ha tagahuron.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PPSHX2WQDC664ASRV6X2K5EVEQ Mind Lumayag

    non-sense….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PPSHX2WQDC664ASRV6X2K5EVEQ Mind Lumayag

    The Americans do not need land bases anymore, the technology they posses has gotten so advance and cheaper to use than establishing land bases. Troop deployment and war exercises are just show-offs. Wars are already being won by satelites and drones, so why put bases. 
    So to those who loves to protest, with or without American troops in the Philippines it doesn’t matter anymore and you know that even back then ten years ago.
    Balikatan exercise is always the favorite issue….pathetic….  

  • Faith Diao

    Now that the Philippines has China’s attention, it should capitalize on it. Pnoy should go to Bejing and negotiate more expansive trade relations with China…they have the world’s bank vault. He should also go to Washington and ask for guns and bullets and ask the Americans to be our security guards while we are making money with the Chinese. We should follow Singapore. That’s how they did it.The Philippines should not just tow Washington’s lines and wishes and be their pawns. Remember the U.S. plays both sides of the game. They talk to  the Philippines but they talk more with China.Romantic chivalrous diplomacy is long gone. There is no such thing as lasting loyalty. There is only lasting self-interest.The Philippines should take sides of course. It can take side with the U.S. in some cases and at some times. It can also sides with China in some cases and at some times.

  • Anonymous

    oh well we have to try

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IYNCLALDBQWG6EDPRLEAFGVMWU Joseph

    more AWACS capability.. ..more muscle for the navy… 

  • Anonymous

    Are you dreaming, come on walang ng neutral country ngyon. As an ally, we have a promise to accomplish. Eat or you will be eaten.

  • Anonymous

    The government is not ignoring concerns about the economy, actually as your read from newspapers our credit rating gradually rose up due to wise governance in this times of recession. But let me ask you, when do you prepare for worst. Is it when the worst comes or before it will come.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IYNCLALDBQWG6EDPRLEAFGVMWU Joseph

    kung gusto ng pinas maging neutral .. i think yung economy natin.. katulad ng SWITZ..

  • antonioluna

    sana nga bro

  • Anonymous

    andyan na po tayo sa mga paniniwala ninyo… pero kung sakali pong mapaalis ang mga amerikano at naiwan tayo sa ere, ano nalang po ang maaari nating ipanglaban sa bansang China na sa totoo man o hindi kayang-kaya tayong apihin at palubugin sa isang tira lamang ng kanilang malalakas na kagamitang pandigma…

    natuto narin po cguro ang ating pamahalaan sa mali ng nakaraan at nakatitiyak akong hindi makikipagsundo ang ating bansa sa ibang bansa ng hindi paborable sa atin…

  • antonioluna

    iniwan na tayo sa ere ng kano dati pa at sa sariling pagsisikap ng mga HUKS ay unti unti nilang nalupig ang hapon na noong panahon ay superior din ang kaalaman at kagamitang pandigma.

    no offense bro, pero saan mo naman nakuha na titirahin tayo ng china ng kanilang nuclear weapons?
    lumalabas na ang mundo natin ay sinauna kung iyan ang iniisip mo, isang mundong hindi sibilisado na kung saan ang malalakas na bansa ay nananakop ng walang pakundangan….

  • Anonymous

    iba kc ang panahon noon at ngayon. nuon marami pang resources ang mundo, ngayon, nag-aagawan na. sa dami ng populasyon sa china talagang hindi sila papayag na my umangkin sa spratlys kahit alam naman nila na hindi nila pag-aari ito. gagamit at gagamit sila ng lakas para may magamit silang resources sa napakalaki nilang populasyon. kung natatandaan mo bro, ilang beses silang nangahas na pumasok sa teritoryo ng bansa, un pa lang ay wala na silang pakundangan at respeto sa atin. kung sakaling napaalis muli dto sa pinas ang mga kano, ano ang ipanlalaban natin sa mga nang-aapi sa atin? placard? streamers? rally? people power? NPA??? kelangan nating palakasin ang kapangyarihan ng ating Armed Forces at mas mkakatulong sa atin ang mga kano. we don’t have much choice kaibigan.

  • Anonymous

    @antonioluna:disqus  bro, “No man is an island” nga diba? Kahit nga ang mga powerful na bansa kailangan ng mga allies tayo pa kaya?.

  • Anonymous

    @antonioluna:disqus Brader, wag na tayo magpaka bayani… hindi na uso yan… hindi mo ba naaalala na ang simpleng pam bubully sa atin ng tsina ay isa lamang indikasyon na minamaliit nila tayo? ang pag papalipad ng jet fighter para takutin ang ating mga kababayang mangingisda sa west phil sea? iba na po ang labanan ngayon bro. tama si @TheaLouiseCabrera:disqus  minsan kailangan din natin ng allies.. =)

  • Anonymous

    Kapatid, huwag nyong kalimutan na ang China ay kabilang na sa isang malakas na bansa pag dating sa military capability nila…,majority komunista he he he.., mag antay pa ba tayo na hindi na tayo makakilos bago mag react???

  • Anonymous

    tama si @jhoshalopez:disqus at si @TheaLouiseCabrera:disqus bro  ihiwalay n natin ang panahon nuong may hapon p dto at ngayong wala na. magkakampi na nga ang hapon at US ngayon e. pg hnd tayo nagpatulong sa US, ano mngyayari satin? may magagawa ka ba? 

  • Anonymous

    He he he kapatid magpakatuto ah…,kampon ka ng China ano..???? know what I mean???

  • antonioluna

    kaya nga halos wala ng gustong magsakripisyo para sa ikauunlad, pagkakaroon ng respeto dahil sa mga salitang hindi na uso ang magppakabayani, dito lang sa atin may salitang ganyan pero sa ibang bansa nakatanim sa isip ng mamamayan na parating isipin ang kapakanan ng kanyang lupang sinilangan.

    totoo ang sinabi mo kailangan natin ng kakampi, yong tunay na kakampi hindi yaong napatunayan na natin noon pa na iiwan din lang tayo sa ere.

    paano nga pala natin magiging kakampi ang isang bansang may policy na hindi sila makikialam sa usapin tungkol sa west philippines sea at isang bansa na kailangan pa ng go signal ng kanilang kongreso para tulungan ang pinas kung sakaling lusubin nga tayo ng china?

  • Anonymous

    US works alongside with the AFP in a strickly non-combatant role.Defending undisputed teritory/preventing china from intruding into disputed Philippine teritory in the west philippine sea is among the Philippine motivations in negotiating new agreement. As an allied nation,we must be thankful for the help rendered to us. On the other hand, it is among the government’s way on enhancing our capability to defend our territory.

  • Anonymous

    Kapatid, huwag nyong kalimutan na ang China ay kabilang sa isang malakas na bansa, military capability and economic…,tayo parang surot lang compare sa kanila.., We need somebody to rely on habang hindi pa natin kayang harapin sila head on…,

  • Anonymous

    He he he kapatid.., magpakatuto ka..,kabilang ka sa mga kampon ng China dito sa ating Bansa ano…????

  • Anonymous

    so sino pala ang totoong kakampi natin Ginoong @antonioluna:disqus   ??? 

  • Anonymous

    Sa totoo lang kapatid…, we need to follow certain rules in dealing with our national issues…, especially with other countries

  • antonioluna

    tama ka dyan bro

  • antonioluna

    pagsinabi kasing kakampi yaan yaong automatikong tutulong sa atin kahit na ano pang isyu ang kinasadlakan natin basta’t tayo ay nasa tamang lugar, kaya kung ang kakamping sinasabi ay nagkukunwari lamang mas mainam na tayu tayo na lang ang magtulungan, bukod pa sa ang sinasabing kakampi natin ang syang maging target ay lalo lamang tayong kawawa.

    kung ang lahat ng bahay sa pinas ay aarmasan na katulad ng sa switzerland at sasanayin kung paano gamitin ito palagay ko magdadalawang isip ang kahit sinong bansang salingin tayo, pero dito kasi sa atin napakahirap kumuha ng lisensyandong baril sa legal na paraan.

  • antonioluna

    ako ba ang tinutukoy mo?binasa mo ba lahat ng post ko sa thread na ito, pero uulitin ko ha, sang ayon ako na ilagay sa frontline kung sakaling lusubin nga tayo ng china, at sang ayon din akong ang lahat ng duwagis ay ifiring squad para hindi pamarisan, ikaw ba lalaban ka kung sakaling lusubin tayo ng china o kahit anong bansa?

  • Anonymous

    Ginoong @antonioluna:disqus , mayamang bansa ang switz. hindi m ba naiisip na majority sa populasyon natin ay mahihirap? isipin m pg inarmasan mo lahat ng bawat pamilya ano kaya ang puwedeng mangyari? my armed forces naman kaya cla ang dapat palakasin at suportahan natin. at hindi m maikakaila, napakalaki ng bansang tsina. kahit armasan mo pa ang bagong silang na sanggol satin dto sa Pilipinas hndi natin cla kakayanin idagdag m pa ang moderno nilang sandata…

    kung ikaw lang ang totoo at nag-iisang kakampi na ating bansa, willing ka ba na ibala sa missile kung saka-sakali??? we need allies bro…

  • antonioluna

    with whom will you rely on?to someone which history tells us we cannot count on?
    isn’t that tantamount to having no options, wherein in fact we have.

    1. we can arm and train the civilian population.
    2. we have a local factory of weapons(Amscor).

  • antonioluna

    hindi naman makatotohanan ang mga sinabi mo eh, mukhang nagpapatawa ka lang, kung pera ang sinasabi mong problema tinatanong mo na ba ang sarili mo kung bakit ang daming pera ang ninanakaw lang ng mga heneral?aba eh sobra sobra pang ang perang iyon na pambili ng M16 para armasan lahat ng bahay sa ating bansa.

    hindi dito pinag uusapan ang paramihan ng tao, dahil maliit lang talaga ang populasyon natin kumpara sa kanila, ang isyu dito ay paghahanda, dahil kung ang lohika mo ang susundin natin eh lahat ng bansa sa buong mundo ay kayang talunin ng china.

    babalikan ko ang nasabi ko na sa thread na ito, bakit ang vietnam hindi nalupig ng america?

    ito ang mga pagkakataon na ang bukambibig ng karamihan dito sa pinas na makadiyos pero takot lumaban sa isang bansang walang diyos?lumalabas na wala sa loob natin ang pinagsasabi natin at puro lang tayo kaipokrituhan.

    ano ang sabi mo we need allies – hindi ka nag iisa marami kayong nagsasabi nyan na wala pa man ding ginagawa para sa sarili nya ay hihingi na ng tulong kaya sumige ka humingi ka ng tulong kay uncle sam at sana tulungan ka nga kapag nagkaroon na ng gera

  • Anonymous

    Sa tingin mo ba @antonioluna:disqus na sagot ang pagbibigay ng armas sa bawat pamilya? Hindi ba mas makakasama yun para sa seguridad at sitwasyon ng ating bansa? Mas lalong gugulo ang ating bansa hindi mo ba naisip yun? Ang kailangan natin ang may kakahayahan na protektahan at tulungan tayo at hindi ang pagbibigay ng armas sa mga tao dito. Mamulat ka naman sa katotohanan na kailangan talaga natin ng kakampi. 

  • Anonymous

    i’m not talking about “literal money” when it comes to the support that we need to give to the armed forces. kahit ordinaryong mamamayan lang ako, i understand that they need to be equipped with reputable equipment. how can we pose our credibility in claiming our sovereignty over spratlys kung kulang tayo sa mga kagamitang pandagat at panghimpapawid. hindi sagot ang armas sa bawat bahay ng Pilipino dahil unang-una, hnd tayo pag-aaksayan ng China puntahan dto sa Pilipinas, KAYA NAMAN NG MISSILES NILA para gawin un. pangalawa, naniniwala ako na hindi lahat ng heneral ay nagnanakaw ng pera. mas nkararami ang tapat sa kanilang tungkulin. hindi dapat tayo basta-basta naniniwala sa mga nababasa sa dyaryo naririnig sa radyo o napapanuod sa tv dahil kadalasan lahat ng paninira sa gobyerno ay pakana lng ng mga komunistang pula na nais sirain ang gobyerno. ang kailangan natin ngayon ay ang pag-ibig at pagtutulungan para sa bansa.

    hindi man nalupig ng US ang vietnam, marami pa rin ang namatay sa vietnam at hindi na maibabalik un.

  • antonioluna

     binasa mo ba talaga ang post ko, sinabi ko ba doon armasan lang tayo ay sapat na?
    ikaw yata ang hindi mulat sa katotohanan.

  • antonioluna

    huwag nating pagdebatahan kung mga magnanakaw ang mga heneral o hindi, hindi ko naman sila linalahat at sino ba ang nagsabi nyan hindi ba sundalo rin.

    saan mo naman nakuha na papaliparan tayo ng missile?ano tayo basta na lang lilipulin ng walang dahilan?at kung magkakatotoo man iyon na puntiryahin tayo ng isang nuclear missile, sa tingin mo ang presensya ng kano dito ang magliligtas sa atin?matatakot ang nuclear missle ng mga intsik pagnakita ang mga kano?

    ano ang punto mo doon sa sinabi mong hindi man nalupig ng US ang vietnam ay marami pa rin ang namatay?

  • Anonymous

    Pakibasa ulit mga posts mo o kaya papaalala ko na lang sayo ha…

    1. “we can arm and train the civilian population.”2. “kung ang lahat ng bahay sa pinas ay aarmasan na katulad ng sa switzerland at sasanayin kung paano gamitin ito…”

    Naiintindihan mo ba mga pinopost mo mr antonioluna?

  • Libira

    The mere presence of the US military in the Philippines is not a threat to China, you’re right there. 

    But it boosts our confidence that we can fight for our country if we have the right support. 

    Accepting the US military here is not just for accessory, it is in fact NECESSARY! We cannot just arm the people here with weapons, what is the point of it anyway if we are not properly trained. 

    Do you wish to implement a type of rebellious attack and letting civilians join the fight? It is not at all practical. You are just wishing this country to die in the hands of the communists. Die for the country for the wrong reasons. Shame on you.    

  • Libira

    You said in your post that arming the people with weapons was not enough. What else do you have in my mind?

  • Anonymous

    Kung sinasabi mong hindi sapat ang pagbibigay ng armas sa atin, ano pa ba ang gusto mo para masabi mong sapat na ang lahat?

  • antonioluna

     binasa mo ba mga post ko, ang sinabi ko doon armasan at sanayin, ang tanga mo naman kung aarmasan mo lang ang isang tao pero hindi mo naman sasanayin kung paano gagamitin iyon, wala ka palang common sense

  • Anonymous

    Ano ba talaga ang gusto mong tumbokin, kapatid kung antonio luna..???Ayaw mong makasangga ang US..??? Eh di sa China ka maki jamming…,yan ang gusto mong tumbokin..???At ano na ang nagawa mong laban pra sa kapakanan ng Pilipinas..??? ang sumoporta sa China..??? Ang paghahanda na sinasabi mo ay ang pag ayos mo ng matiwasay na pagpasok ng China dito sa atin..???

  • Anonymous

    Kung sinasabi mong hindi sapat ang pagbibigay ng armas sa atin, ano pa ba ang gusto mo para masabi mong sapat na ang lahat?

  • Libira

    Mr Antonio Luna, do you in fact suggest that we start an uncivilized attack against China? To train civilians how to fight because you don’t believe in the skills and strength of the Armed Forces? Then shame on you for saying that you believe that we have a chance by choosing your options. You are putting innocent lives at stake.

    I would politely ask you to put your foot on the line first if you are so willing. Be an example to the many that you think would follow your footsteps. Trust me, there would be none.

     I personally think that the Armed Forces can protect this country along with the help of the US military as long as they play it right, settle their differences and come up with the best people and reasonable strategies. 

  • antonioluna

    again you lack the common sense, even the PNP director admitted that our police force lacks marksmanship and proper handling of their guns, handling of firearms requires proper training.

    and so you are saying the mere presence of US military will boost our confidence just in case an invasion will happen, now what do you mean by that when they will not fight along side with us if invasion happens?what do mean by that when it is a known fact that they require a congress approval before they can help us?

    it is more shameful when you don’t know your history and it is worst when you never learn from it.

  • Libira

    Common sense??? Use your brain! you cannot just arm and train the people!! Para kang engot na susugod na lang kasi pakiramdam niya malakas siya as is! Hindi purkit may armas at training ay mananalo! Taon ang binibilang sa sanayan na yan. We are FILIPINOS, we are not merciless murderers and certainly not rifle guns na rat-rat lang ng rat-rat!

  • antonioluna

    ikaw nga itong wala yatang utak, yaan ang panimulang paghahanda para matugunan kung mayroong invasion na mangyayari.

    and what about the swiss who has firearm in every household, are they merciless murderers, ang layo naman ng argumento mo, nag aral ka ba?

  • Libira

    If the PNP as you say is not as good as they should be in handling firearms and weapons, do you think that civilians can do better?? Do you, Mr Antonio Luna, even own a firearm and know how to use it?

    Dude I would believe you but please oh please fix your grammar first.

  • antonioluna

    wala ka talagang common sense ano, bakit tayo aatake eh nasa defensive mode nga tayo, naiintindihan mo ba ang mga binabasa mo o lango ka sa ipinagbabawal na gamot.

    did i say not to trust our own AFP? what an id!ot.
    arming and training our civilian population to augment our existing arm forces, this is the first thing to do instead of seeking help from another party.

    I would politely ask you to put your foot on the line first if you are so willing. Be an example to the many that you think would follow your footsteps. Trust me, there would be none. – yes i know and understand this, that is why i am willing to be in front line just in case there is an invasion and those cowards who refuse to fight should be subjected to firing squad.

    in case you don’t know since you do not have common sense, it is everyone’s duty to fight for our country when there is an invasion.

  • Anonymous

    Sa tingin mo ganun lang kadali yun @antonioluna:disqus ? Yun na ba ang pinakamatino mong solusyon sa problema? Sa tingin mo sa pag may armas at nasanay na tayo kaya na nating sumugod at manalo? Anong tingin mo sa mga Pilipino superheroes? Isipin mo nga hindi basta bastang bansa ang kumakalaban sa atin at sa tingin mo yun ang dapat nating gawin?

  • antonioluna

    ibig kong sabihin kapatid, total ayan nakikita natin mayroong external threat tayo muna ay magsipaghanda bago tayo humingi ng tulong sa iba.

    kung gusto nating makialyado sa US pwede iyon, pangalawang hakbang iyon pero kailangan magkaroon ng batas at kasulatan na handa nilang tayong ipagtanggol sa kahit sinong external forces at kahit ano pa ang isyu.

  • Anonymous

    well, you opened it up first. i always believe in the integrity of the soldiers. minsan nang nasagip ang buhay ko dahil sa isang sundalo. at alam nmn natin na marami ang gawa-gawa lng sa isyu ng korapsyon sa afp dahil propaganda yan ng mga komunistang pula.

    kung ireresearch m ang military capability ng china kapatid, jn m malalaman na hindi nila tayo pag-aaksayahang magpunta dto at pagbuwisan ng buhay dahil high-tech cla. so ano pa ang magiging silbi na armasan natin ang bawat pamilya??? besides, ang interes nila ay ang spratlys na my iilang residente lamang.

    kung magkagayon man mas gugustuhin ko na mas maraming kano dto mas maganda, para magdalawang-isip ang china na tirahin at maliitin ang Pilipinas. Matatakot pa rin ang China dahil ang US pa rin ang SUPERPOWER.

    hindi man natalo ng US ang vietnam hindi ibig sabihin na nanalo ang vietnam dahil sobrang dami ng namatay sa Vietnam. ayokong mngyari sa Pilipinas un.

  • antonioluna

    mas maganda na iyang sinabi ko kumpara sa umasa at bakit tayo susugod, hindi ba nasa defensive mode tayo, ano ibig mong sabihin sasakupin natin ang china?

  • Libira

    Dear dear dear Mr Antonio, you do not have sufficient bad words to weaken me. I’d like to point out that unfortunately, we are not as well disciplined as the Swiss and the fact that you are comparing us to them is a little overreaching, don’t you think? Yes they have firearms in their households but they are for protection, not for battle as you have previously suggested. I do not like the fact that you are jumping to conclusions and evading our points. You may have your views Mr Antonio Luna but they are for the wrong. You have no single ally here. I suggest that you keep your opinions to yourself as it is not   wanted by the many.

  • antonioluna

    what grammar i just copy paste their postings?

  • antonioluna

    its not a problem if i am solo on this, i am not like you who needs an ally just by laying his piece even in this forum, now i know why you are so persistent in asking for help its in your character, in short you will not be able to stand alone.

    do you have any idea what kind of firearms swiss has in their household?they are military grade long firearms not only suitable for protection but in battle as well.

    even a policeman doesn’t have discipline when he doesn’t know how to use his firearm properly.

    discipline, proper handling of firearms those can be acquired thru adequate training.

  • antonioluna

    wala tayong pagtatalunan sa integridad ng mga foot soldier, kanina pinoproblema mo kung saan kukuha ng pera para doon sa suhestiyon kong armasan at sanayin ang mamamayan, kaya sinagot kita na kung may nananakaw nga pera ang mga heneral bakit pambili wala, kung gusto mong magkipagtalo tungkol dyan kausapin mo si col. rabusa dahil sya ang nagsiwalat nyan.

    ang punto ng pag aarmas at pagsasanay sa civilian population ay para sa invasion, kung sakaling gustong sakupin ng china ang pinas.

    matakot ang china sa US?nagbabasa ka ba ng kasaysayan ng pinas, noong world war II nandito ang mga kano, natakot ba ang mga hapon sa paglusob at pagsakop sa pinas?kasaysayan na mismo ang nagsasabing sablay ang mga punto mo.

    saan bang gera walang namatay?noong ngang ikalawang digmaang pandaigdig maraming namatay sa death march, nadamay tayo sa gerang hindi naman sa atin, at sino ba ang gustong maraming mamatay pero kapag linusob ka ng isang bansa para sakupin para walang mamatay susuko ka na lang at papaalipin?ang gara naman talaga ng mga puntos mo, o sya humingi ka ng tulong wala namang pumipigil sa iyo tayo naman ay nagpapalitan ng kuru kuro dito base sa kung ano ang realidad at kung ano ang pinagdaanan natin sa kasaksayan.

  • christian sison

    he possibility of partnership bet PHIL and
    US for greater national security in the Pacific will give upper hand to our
    side. It will boost our capability to immediately respond to the various national
    crises (natural/man-made). In the context disaster preparedness, partnership
    may even strengthen the role of the Philippine armed force in a wide ranging
    socio and economic security including environmental security affairs because of
    its links with other armed forces in the world. 
    Military planners and leaders must respond to the challenge of the new
    security paradigm so they can effectively reach out to as many people and
    groups as possible to ensure that human development and well being of the
    Filipino people.  

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/M4ZCQ35DPIXWLKUBQKQRXOK6DU Scott

    Does the Philippines want to end up like North Korea? With a friend like China, who needs enemies!

  • Libira

    Who better to train us than the US? Who do you suggest? yourself?
    It is already history, times have changed. We are looking out for the best option. We are in search of help. Fact of the matter is we cannot do it alone, without the know how to arm ourselves, and without the proper help in training.

  • antonioluna

     you forgot that we have our own academy which produces leaders and generals, we have soldiers who are specialized in weaponry, we have our own version of navy seal and commando, we have people that can train us but the problem is it’s in your character, you’re always in need of assistance probably you were not trained by your parents to be independent, what a pity.

  • antonioluna

    the fact is Philippines has been an ally and a partner to the US for almost a century and yet US respect Vietnam more than us.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    No  U.S. Help.  The  Philippines is  burning  the  candle  from  both  ends..  You  kicked  us  out before  so  fight  your  own  battles..  Perhaps  you  should  ask  China  for  help as  they  already  own  your  country  and  your  Government.  As  always  , the  Philippines  is  on  the  street  begging for  help  and  money  so  your  congressmen  can  fill  their pockets  and  kiss  Chinese  backsides..  China  owns  the Philippines and the  U.S. can  do  nothing  about  it.  You  put  yourselves in  this  position  now  live  with  it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Just calling  it  as  I  see it  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Surely  you  don’t  think  anything  like  neutrality  would  even  concern  the  Chinese  ?  You  are  a dreamer..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    I  have  written  to  both  of  my  Senators  and  my  Congressman,  but  sadly  they  are as  corrupt  as  yours  are.  Seriously,  I  have  no  solution  but  am  just  expressing  opinion.  It  has  to  start  with  the  govt  of  the RP..  I  live  here  and  I love  the Phils,  and  I  love  my  wife  and  I  will  stand  with  you in  any  circumstance.  Do  not  trust  the Obama Admin.  It  is  no  more  than  a  2  headed snake.  Nice  talking  with  you.  I hope  to  hear  more.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Ahhhhh  So  you  think  the  United  States should  put  it’s Sons  and  Daughters  at  risk  of  life  and limb for  free?  You  are  a typical  beggar  and  always  will be..  NO NO NO.   No  U.S.  help

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Don’t  forget  how  many  millions  Mao  murdered  Juan

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    Hahahaah  Filipinos  die  by  the  thousands  every  year  at  the  hands  of  brother  Filipinos…..  Whose  fault  is  that?  U.S. or  China?  Take  some  responibility

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    So  stand  on  your  own  and  stop  whining !!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    And  how  many  Filipinos  murdered  by Abu Sayaf, MILF,  and Npa.  You  are  borderline  retarded

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Steffen/100001137426171 Bill Steffen

    No  U..S.Help  in  the  Philippines.  There….  That  solves  everything…..  Everybody  happy  now.???

  • Anonymous

    saan m naman napulot yang invasion ng china sa pinas kapatid? spratlys ang pinaguusapan dto.

    sa akin lng hindi aq agree sa punto mo na armasan ang civilian population…

  • antonioluna

    naiintindihan ko dahil hindi naman ganon kadali ang armasan ang civilian population pero kung yaon ang magbibigay sa atin ng respeto ng mundo bakit hindi, kaya walang rumirespeto sa pinas dahil nakikita ng buong mundo na hindi tayo tumatayo sa sarili nating paa na kung tutuusin nakaya nga na mas mahirap na bansa tayo pa kaya.

  • Anonymous

    @antonioluna:disqus bro, 
    Reading your previous comments eh mukhang naabuso ka talaga. 

  • Anonymous

    @antonioluna:disqus  Have you been DENIED a US Visa lately? 

  • Anonymous

    You’re right about both governments. But yours is a lot more mature and that’s for sure. Ours is till evolving. May take two more good presidents to become good enough. But one thing is common. Both are sensitive to the media. So if the government doesn’t move, perhaps by luck some bigger potatoes in The Inquirer might pick out some of the sensible opinions like yours from the already 413 comments in this article and write something that would make this government react. The 413 comments from the left and right says how a lot of Pinoys care about this defense issue. Yup, lots of contradictions in Obama’s policies. Anyway, I wish you and your family have a great life in the Philippines.

  • Anonymous

    Yes we should not be over dependent on another country. We can train ourselves, that’s for sure. But it’s also not bad to get some training from Israel, UK, US…whoever has experience. Each one including us will always have something that the other does not know. Even UK, US, and Israel exchange skills.

  • Anonymous

    Respect? What kind of respect?

    The main reason for US ties with Vietnam is that it is one of emerging economies with a mostly untapped market. Aside from that, labor has become cheaper than the Philippines. Ever wondered why Intel Corp transferred its Cavite plant to Vietnam?

  • Anonymous

    Does that make US troops leave my country? I don’t think so.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like US logic before invading Iraq. They kept on repeating the 5K Kurds killed by Saddam as reason to take him down. And yet, Saddam looks like an amateur against the 110K civilians and 6K troops killed by the long long US invasion of Iraq. Oh, you have a benign term for that, “collateral damage.”

  • antonioluna

    respect is when there is an existing agreement and you follow what is agreed upon.
    respect is when a sex maniac like daniel smith is being punished for raping a pinay instead of muscling our judicial system and make it like the rape victim was the one committed the crime.

  • antonioluna

    there is nothing wrong with mutual agreement with mutual benefits

  • Anonymous

    And now she is happy and living in the US with her American husband!

  • antonioluna

    the same thing you will do when you are a rape victim and your own government is not helping you to get justice, how do you feel when your own government is more lenient to the foreign rapist and discourages her our citizen(the victim) to pursue her case.

  • antonioluna

    ah ganon ka ba katanga para hindi mo malaman ang kasaysayan natin at pinipersonal mo ako, magsulat ka ng may sustansya ng hindi naman lumalabas na ignorante ka.

  • antonioluna

     have you been f*cked by a US military lately? or maybe your daughter BF is a US navy?or worst did you see your husband doing a BJ with a US marine?

  • antonioluna

     hulaan ko lahat ng butas ng katawan mo natarugo na ng kano hehehe o kaya naranasan mo ng makipagORGY sa kanila

  • antonioluna

    teka baka pati nanay mo pinatira mo na din sa kano?matuwa lamang sila sa iyo, naku delikado ang mga apo mong babae malamang ipalapastangan mo din sa kanila

  • Louise

    Sa mga sinasabi mo Antonio Luna sino kaya mas ignorante sa atin ngayon? Ganyan mo ba ituring ang iyong nanay, ate, at lola? There’s nothing wrong with the US presence, after all the Philippines has the 1951 Mutual Defense Treaty with the US. Sino kaya sa atin ngayon ang walang sustansiya ang mga sinusulat?!

  • Louise

    Sa mga sinasabi mo Antonio Luna sino kaya mas ignorante sa atin ngayon? Ganyan mo ba ituring ang iyong nanay, ate, at lola? There’s nothing wrong with the US presence, after all the Philippines has the 1951 Mutual Defense Treaty with the US. Sino kaya sa atin ngayon ang walang sustansiya ang mga sinusulat?!

  • antonioluna

    ignorante ka dahil baliwala ang treaty na iyan kapag nagkaroon ng invasion dito sa pinas, isaksak mo sa kakarampot mong utak na kailanga pa ng pahintuloy ng kanilang kongreso bago nila tayo tulungan.

    walang problema sa aking kung mag insultuhan at magbastusan tayo dito dahil iyan naman ang sinimulan mo

  • antonioluna

    ikaw ang ganyan tumuring sa mga kababayan at kamag anak mong babae dahil pabor ka sa pananatili nila kahit na kitang kita mo na ang isang daniel smith na nangrape ng pinay ay napawalang sala at nagmukha pang ang biktima ang may kasalanan pero bulag ka siguro at hindi mo nakita na nagkukumahog ang pamahalaan natin hindi upang tulungan ang ating kababayan kundi para tulungan ang rapist.

  • Louise

    Ganyan din kaya reaction mo kung China ang mag-offer ng tulong?

  • Louise

    Paki-review nga ng mga previous comments, paki-tingnan kung sino ang unang nambastos

  • antonioluna

     ikaw ang magreview dahil sa halip na salungatin mo ng matino ang mga post ay pang iinsulto ang alam mo, hindi lang ikaw ang marunong mang insulto at mambastos

  • antonioluna

    binasa mo ba ang mga post ko para tanungin mo ako ng ganyan, ang suhestiyon ko sa mga naunang post ko ay armasan at sanayin ang civilan population para kung sakaling lusubin tayo ng china at nakahanda tayo sa halip na humingi kaagad ng tulong sa iba, nakuha mo ba ang punto? at sinabi ko rin na kung sakaling lusubin tayo ng china ay payag akong ilagay sa frontline at sinabi ko rin na ifiring squad ang mga duwag at mga takot na lumaban kung sakaling magkagera nga.

     

  • Louise

    I don’t have a plan to waste my time Mr. Antonio Luna, bye! Have a good day

  • Anonymous

    bakit ganyan ka magsalita? bakit alam muh ang mga yan? cguro ganun ang pamilya muh nuh?……….o baka gusto muh sayo yan gawin ng mga kano?
    .

  • Anonymous

    talagang walang problema sau ang ganya antonia……di ba sister?.

  • Anonymous

    isa ka doon sa ma firing squad

  • antonioluna

    sabi mo?di ako katulad mo na nuknukan ng karuwagan, at sa sobrang karuwagan mo kahit na gahasain ang anak mo sa harap mo ay mananahimik ka na lang, aminin

  • antonioluna

    dapat bago mo tinanong iyan binasa mo muna ang thread para makita mo na sinasagot ko lang ang insulto ng kapwa insulto, katulad mo sasagutin din kita ng insulto dahil insulto rin naman ang sinulat mo.

    yong tanong mong gusto kong gawin sa akin ng kano iyon huwag mo akong itulad sa iyo na walang dignidad.
    at dahil wala kang dignidad mas masahol ka pa sa nagpuputa na naghahanapbuhay dahil ikaw ay ugaling aso na kahit sino ay pwedeng tumira sa lahat ng butas na katawan mo.

  • antonioluna

    o ikaw din ba iyan louise o isa kang beki na tinira na ng kano



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  10. Manila antidrug units dissolved after illegal arrest of 4 Koreans
  1. Fight is over Rep. Ignacio Arroyo’s assets, says lawyer
  2. ‘My OFW husband came home a different man’
  3. How hard is it to get a US visa?
  4. Bigger US military role in Philippines sought
  5. Ex-PH envoy to Mexico held for concubinage, posts bail
  6. Smell of decay leads to body of Arab tourist in Manila hotel room
  7. Filipino doctor, wanted in US, now a medical reservist in AFP
  8. Maid kills Singaporean widow after being called stupid
  9. US won’t return bases in PH but welcomes offer of more troops
  10. 3 Russian Navy ships dock in Manila for 3-day visit

News

  • Cars stolen in Luzon recovered by police in Visayas, Mindanao
  • At least 33 killed in Iraq attacks
  • Arroyo hopes gov’t will uphold rule of law, laments campaign vs Arroyos
  • An eyewitness or Justice Sereno testifying could save prosecution, says Santiago
  • Senate junks De Lima’s testimony as hearsay
  • Sports

  • Westbrook, Durant power Thunder past Celtics
  • Jeremy Lin to miss dunk moment but will fill bookshelves
  • Pacquiao ‘embarrassed’ by Mayweather offer
  • Manny Pacquiao swept up in Linsanity
  • Don’t wait for P-Noy to save boxing
  • Lifestyle

  • PF Chang’s first Asian branch opens–to long wait lists
  • ‘Tikuron or tikoy turon’
  • Oriental Citrus Salad, Herb Pan-fried Fish–Mama Maimee, it’s good ol’ comfort food!
  • Burrata Cheese Ravioli, Burger with Foie Gras, ‘snowball tiramisu’–chow time in Hong Kong
  • ‘Udang Goreng Chilli Garam’ (Chili Prawns)–a Peranakan favorite
  • Entertainment

  • Sepia-tinted statuettes? Oscar films look to past
  • ‘Bourne’ star leaves ‘legacy’ in Palace visit
  • Through the years …
  • As Pinoy as the jeepney
  • Modern-day superhero
  • Business

  • Puregold Price Club net profit tripled to P1.54B in 2011
  • Oil prices lower on weak Europe, China data
  • No change in PSE index
  • Again, oil firms up prices
  • PPP schools project attracts 15 firms
  • Technology

  • US attorneys general pressure Google on privacy
  • Company sues Apple over iPad name in Shanghai
  • Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom released on bail
  • New York taxis could get iPads—report
  • Google under fire for sidestepping track-blocking software
  • Opinion

  • Editorial cartoon, February 23, 2012
  • Wisdom, not legality
  • People power
  • The algorithm of kindness
  • ‘Medicare portability’ for Fil-Ams
  • Global Nation

  • 12 OFWs return from strife-torn Syria; 973 so far repatriated
  • Philippine Immigration issues reminder on annual reporting of aliens
  • Okay to buy warships but don’t bring US into Spratly dispute
  • Ibuna lawyer: Aleli not Ignacio Arroyo’s legal wife due to technicality
  • Government lifts ‘au pair’ ban to Europe
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