Taking sea row to UN tribunal a wise move–Carpio

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MANILA, Philippines—The country made a wise choice in taking its maritime dispute with China on the West Philippine Sea to an international arbitral tribunal “where warships, fighter planes and missiles do not count” and which may take two to three years to resolve, Senior Associate Justice Antonio Carpio said on Thursday.

But Carpio said the country must also build a “credible self-defense force” which it had neglected to do and caused it to lose to China Mischief Reef in 1995, Scarborough Shoal in 2012 and “most likely Ayungin Shoal in the near future.”

Speaking before the Philippine Bar Association, Carpio said the move taken by Manila to go to the United Nations Arbitral Tribunal had eliminated the military advantage of China and ensured that the outcome of the dispute is “in accordance to the rule of law.”

“It was a wise decision, but one borne out of necessity because it was actually the only viable option to the Philippines,” he said, reading from a paper he prepared, titled, “The Rule of Law in the West Philippine Sea Dispute.”

He cited the failure of the country to improve its naval assets, being an archipelago with extensive coastlines and a vast exclusive economic zone.

“To remain a sovereign and independent nation, to maintain our territorial integrity, to avoid further humiliation, and to maintain our self-respect as a nation, we must build and maintain a credible self-defense force,” Carpio said, noting there was “simply no alternative to this.”

“No nation can remain sovereign, independent and free for long without maintaining a credible self-defense force, even if international law and world opinion are on its side,” he said.

Carpio said the international arbitral tribunal was the viable solution to the dispute, especially since the country could not invoke the Philippine-United States Mutual Defense Treaty.

He said the United States had made it clear that “the islands, reefs and rocks in the South China Sea are outside the scope of the treaty.”

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  • warillaman

    Of course this is the best move, here in this small courtroom, there mighty ships and power is reduced, and shamed, he,he,he, they could not even face the court nor give evidences of their claim, for centuries they just kill and enslave each other until now with the present commie masters, and now they are claiming the sea just because it has china on an english name of the sea, he,he,he, how stupid and retard can this mongoloid chinks be, I guess their brains are just used to being slaves and building walls.

  • windar_einstein

    just curious.. is Scarborough Shoal inside the Philippine territory as stated in its baseline in the 1960’s or even in 1980’s?

    • hello stupids

      Scarborough Shoal never inside the Philippines area
      it is in the South China Sea occupied by China

      • Meow Ming

        The shoal been administered by the Spanish and then US and then the PH ever since until that idiot commies declared that they ownned the heavens and seas.

      • hello stupids

        Is that what U learn from your school
        goes and ask the Spanish have they ever occupied Indonesia or any reef and shoal in South China Sea?
        goes and ask the US have they ever occupied the shoel?

        the America said the treaty will not cover the reef and the shoal

        U can stop your argue and dream

        hahahahahahahaha

      • Meow Ming

        It has been long administered by the american and filipinos. It was a target practice of both navies when they do military exercises when the US base was still in Subic. The Philippines even built a lighthouse there and registered it. Then the stupid idiot commies declared the nine-dash line but the world ignored it, the same way that the world ignored when ancient china declared that they owned the heavens.

        SCARBOROUGH SHOAL
        Long history of PH management
        By François-Xavier Bonnet
        Philippine Daily Inquirer
        9:19 pm | Saturday, December 15th, 2012

        Read more: http://opinion(dot)inquirer(dot)net/42821/long-history-of-ph-management
        change (dot) to period

      • hello stupids

        what U talking about history
        Philippines only Independence after the world war 2
        U can’t just go to a house with no body there and put some furniture there and said the house belongs to U
        the American never admit they occupied those islands even now
        actually do U know how far SCARBOROUGH SHOAL from subic bay not luzon.
        it is 190 nm from luzon if your boats sailing at 5nm per hours it will take nearly 40 hrs to get there
        what make U think the Philippines fisherman boat can go there before

      • Meow Ming

        What makes you think chinese fishermen can go that far?
        Read the column and be informed.

      • hello stupids

        Chinese fisherman have the ability to travel the world for a long time and rock engrave in most of the Sparty islands

      • Meow Ming

        So that’s whats your commie history teacher had told you. Did you know that commies burned all your history books for reeducation?

      • hello stupids

        the Chinese coast guard is right there go and do something

        OK

      • GaryFil

        At mukhang mapper ka pa ngayon?

        I have asked Google, and its about 250kilometers off of the nearest bay (sorry can not measure nautical miles in google)…

      • hello stupids

        250km if a boat going at 8 km an hour
        U can work it out yourself how long it take to get there

      • GaryFil

        Now you are physics professor.

        If you are talking about traveling to Scarborough, from the disputed islands, you are probably making a fun of yourself. Because these too are being contested by some other nations, which includes Vietnam and Brunei. Now the nearest point that the Chinese can call theirs is Wanning, then its about 1000KM give or take. I think U can work it out yourself, how long it would take you to get there. Write, eheste right? Eto talaga si Wanning 2x…

      • warillaman

        stupid chink, it has been in my country since it was discovered by the spanish, panatag shoal is part of my country, and stupid chink spain cannot establish post on a bobbing rock around my country, go build your wall and bang your head on it chink, he,he,
        Indonesia was a british colony stupid chink!!

      • hello stupids

        Indonesia was a dutch colony stupid dumb azz
        go bang your head on the coconut

      • warillaman

        idiot stupid chink, he,he,he, east india company is british he,he,he, go build your wall and bang your head on it. dumb chink, dutch has never been in this part of southeast asia, dumbhead chink

      • crazy_horse_101010

        hey stupid your moon rock story was a hoax it was shown 3 months after the moon landing nasa never released any rocks in the short of time and it was in a plaque but the plaque never mentioned moon rock it came from a man maned dees and said he got it from william maddendorf who says he doesnt know where the rock came from. nasa gave away moon rocks but from later missions. the museum is laughing at the joke played on them. again moron you should learn how to use the internet and not look so stupid HAHAWHAW SUCKER YOU WERE CONNED TO

      • windar_einstein

        in fairness to China, the shoal was never under Philippine government. It maybe close to the Philippines but the Philippines didnt even claim it. Not until the time of Gloria Arroyo when it is placed until Philippine sovereignty.

      • warillaman

        we never claim this as common sense dictates its inside our territory until this retard chinks claims everything, they started paracel which vietnam never claim again common sense dictates. it has nothing to do with any past or present governments. this chinks never claimed any of this rocks before when the US bases where here. I can’t remember any claims from 80’s downwards. and now they are claiming they own the whole sea. get your facts straight chink.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        You are to primitive, rude and ignorant to deserve any answer

      • warillaman

        he,he,he, rude, primitive, ignorant, while you retard chinks bullies my country, me and my people, and yours honorable educated and sane, he,he,he, pedophile

      • hello stupids

        he is aussie Philippines here to boil your emotion only

      • warillaman

        he,he,he, stupid chink, does it boils your blood???can’t accept the truth??he,he,he, you two, pedophile and retard chink insulting my country, my islands, me and my people in this filipino site he,he,he,he, at least it is affecting you with my insults in return, he,he,he,

      • windar_einstein

        maybe RA 3046 may be worth reading. then based on that, ask yourself, is Scarborough Shoal inside the Philippine territory? I am getting my facts straight, monkey.

      • warillaman

        chink, maybe you should look at the maps not RA whatever, let me ask you the same, is panatag shoal inside your chinks territory or to be more precise, is the shoal in proximity to your chinks shores??? then prove it in arbitration court, yours is a crooked facts, retard.

      • windar_einstein

        my question is about scarborough shoal. what map are you talking about.there are different versions of map but that Republic Act is an official document promulgated by the Philippine government. it specifically defined the boundary of the territory of the republic of the philippines. what crooked facts are you taking about. blame the philippine government for that RA not other people. moron.

      • warillaman

        so what about RA??? why don’t you use it in UN arbitration court ??? and how many maps do you have??? he,he,he,he, where is panatag shoal??? talk to me when you find your other maps idiot chink, he,he,he,

      • GaryFil

        Either you are young at heart, or you just settled in the Philippines recently. Since the Jabidah massacre, I am hearing the late Marcos talking about those group of Islands.

        I think you are having a hard time grasping Philippine history and current events.

      • hello stupids

        America talking go to mars too but they never been on the moon

        hahahahahahahaha

      • GaryFil

        Sino? Ano ka ba talaga? Tsk… Makapanggulo ka lang, kahit wa na torya sinsabi mo, tuloy ka pa rin…

        Typical pinoy…

      • windar_einstein

        really? the difference between the two of us is i just dont based my opinion on what “i am hearing” but on what official documents say. Read RA 3046 – An Act to define the baselines of the territorial sea of the Philippines. Oh just a heads up, you need to brush up on your ability to read maps because you might have a “hard time grasping” the facts stated in the document.

      • warillaman

        hey chink, so you base this claim now on my RA ??? he,he,he,he, before it was the name “china” you base on your claim on the whole sea, well, there is arbitration court chink put it there and see how flimsy and how it will hold he,he,he,

      • windar_einstein

        is that the best that you can do? tsk tsk tsk..pathetic.

      • warillaman

        is that the best you can claim as well??? my RA??? he,he,he, pathetic and a joke he,he,he,

      • AlexanderAmproz

        It’s within the 200 nautical water considered National territory by the international Laws.
        National laws are there to be respected by the International Community, otherwise a World mess is at the doors.
        Look at what unilateralism the US(Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Israel) are used to play.

        It’s a bad precedent example followed by China.
        The Archipelago is on the way to pay a dire price for International disorder initiated by the US and Israel.

        ASEAN and China long term interest is peace and prosperity.
        Everybody has to do an effort to avoid a long term irreparable disaster for all China Sea neighbor’s.

        A win-win solution is existing, find it !

  • boyboy9797

    Therefore let all the abolished PDAF including Pnoy pork barrel be spent to buy modern/stealth frigate warships & destroyers for our navy and F35B aircraft for our airforce.

  • opinyonlangpo

    This man is presidentiable. Somebody the Filipinos can be proud of.

  • bright

    thank you Carpio.

  • AlexanderAmproz

    How come such common sense take so much time to surface ?

    How to control the traditional tragic, epidermic, macho gun totting mentality drowning the Country ?

    May I suggest to develop education and communication instead to buy weapons ?

    • warillaman

      hey pedo, education has been in my country long before your revolution in france, we have the oldest school in south east asia, we are everywhere around the world working because of my country’s education while your friends those retarded chinks have to go to school in every country they are in just so they can work, majority of those just ended up making dimsum and siopao unable to learn anything. I suggest you go to chinksland and enjoy their boys, pedophile he,he,he,

    • GaryFil

      Probably you did not hear or read what Carpio said, “the country must also build a “credible self-defense force” which it had neglected…”. And may I add and I am sorry to say, it neglected it for a very very very very long time. But then again, everything was neglected by politicians and policy makers, except for their pockets.

      Anyway, the Chinese are at your doorsteps. Its like your neighbor, who is very rich and powerful, saying “the whole tree in your backyard is mine also, because 1/4 of its branch is leaning towards my property line. Any fruit you will harvest I want half of it. I do not want you to ask help from the Barangay or Police. Let us just talk between ourselves.”

      Will you accept this kind of attitude of Bullying?

      • AlexanderAmproz

        Be realistic !

        The AFP, almost doesn’t exist.
        Thank’s of the General’s corruptions the Country was caught pans down, its too late to do what wasn’t done the last 25 Years.
        It can’t be done in six months with the purposed money gone into arrogant junket’s, mansion’s, luxury cars for all General’s families and “friend’s” Angie Reyes, a traitor suicide considered as heroic deserving National considerations…
        This is the corruption and the negligent Administration and Chamber’s “collaboration” cost. It’s the choice they did at the RP expense, other countries will have named it high treason, but in the Philippines it’s the usual immature “Bahala”, too many primitive gaago gogo “warillaman” haunting the Archipelago

        Lost time is gone and will never come back, only smart diplomacy left, this is the instant emergency for a Country looking like a naked chicken facing two Tigers !
        What left is the ASEAN, the world community and the DOJ with wine “it’s suck”, shoplifting in SK, sexual harassment’s, maid slavery(Romulo) and a careless management mistaken High Official’s with the President himself among others.
        Too many killing amateurism is resulting from insatiable patronage.

        DOJ isn’t in better shape than the AFP for the same reason’s,
        to step on the head has a cash price.

      • GaryFil

        My point, and Mr. Carpio’s point. If the Philippine Government and its people continue on neglecting the status of its Armed Forces, then I think its time for the Philippines to be an Open City again. Because it has nothing to defend it with.

      • AlexanderAmproz

        No way,

        in every problem a treasure is hiding !
        the Philippines is full of gifted peoples with gifted imaginations, but impossible to put the right Peoples at the right place with such Mafia leaders like JPE and al.
        The Filipino’s worst enemy is themselves, urgent changes are needed, at first jail the guilty monster’s instead innocent’s or petty criminal’s

        Clean the House Before the remotest places !

      • warillaman

        hey pedo, you talk a lot of shitz, every country everywhere, people are gifted, freedom has its faults and price to pay, there is no such thing as perfect world, just go and preach this in your chinks friends they are in need of your preaching not to bully a small country they can’t back up with. we have no enemies among my people, we have pride and very proud of our heritage. leave my country alone if you don’t like it, he,he,he, pedophile

  • Olibo

    Another reason why Ph should condemn all the criminals involved in porky scams. That 10 billion could be money well-spent in building our defense.

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