PH, US start military talks

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MANILA, Philippines—The opening round of talks between the Philippines and the United States for an agreement on increased US military presence in the country took almost six hours on Wednesday, but details of what was discussed would not be revealed until Thursday, officials said.

The talks, which began shortly before 9:30 a.m. and ended at 3:30 p.m., were held at the Edsa Room of the Department of National Defense (DND) building at Camp Aguinaldo, which had been used by former President Fidel Ramos, the then head of the Philippine Constabulary, and Sen. Juan Ponce Enrile, the then defense secretary, during the crucial four days of the first People Power Revolution of 1986.

Defense undersecretary Honorio Azcueta stressed the significance of the venue when he welcomed the US and Philippine panels.

Same room

“Now we begin our negotiations in the same room with the need in view of coming out with a framework that will further enhance our existing robust defense relations. I exhort both panels to remain candid and frank so that the outcome of this undertaking will redound to the best interest of our two countries,” he said.

The Philippine panel is headed by Carlos Sorreta, assistant secretary at the Department of Foreign Affairs, with members defense undersecretary Pio Lorenzo Batino, justice undersecretary Francisco Baraan III and defense assistant secretary Raymund Quilop.

Round by round

The US panel is composed of State Department officials Eric John, ambassador and senior adviser for security negotiations and agreements of political-military affairs, and Elizabeth Jones, attorney advisor; Brig. Gen. Joaquin Malavet, of the US Defense Department; and Captain Greg Bart, deputy legal counsel, Office of the Chairmen of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Sorreta said “details of each round of talks will be revealed to the public through media in the spirit of transparency.”

The public will be given an update on what was discussed on Wednesday at 11 a.m. Thursday at the Armed Forces of the Philippines Commissioned Officers Club (AFPCOC) in Camp Aguinaldo.

Malacañang said Wednesday the Aquino administration was dead-set on coming up with the agreement despite concerns it might be a violation of Philippine sovereignty.

“Does it stop us? No. We are going ahead with the discussions on the framework agreement,” said presidential spokesman Edwin Lacierda, reacting to a warning from Akbayan party-list member Walden Bello that they could be impinging on the country’s sovereignty.

Lacierda said Philippine negotiators would work within the parameters of the Constitution and the Visiting Forces Agreement (VFA).

In a statement released by the DND, Sorreta said the Philippine panel was going to the negotiating table “guided by the Constitution, utmost respect for sovereignty, and mutuality of benefits in any approved activity and deployment of equipment.”

“We would like to assure the Filipino people that your government is committed to defending and protecting the country’s sovereignty and territorial integrity,” he added.

The plan for an increased “rotational presence” of US military troops is widely viewed as a deterrent to China’s increasingly aggressive stance in laying claim to almost the entire West Philippine Sea (South China Sea).

It also comes at a time of the US’s rebalancing of its military forces in the Asia Pacific region in the face of increasing Chinese aggression.

No working title

Still without a working title, the agreement “will further implement the terms and conditions of the Mutual Defense Treaty and the Visiting Forces Agreement pertaining to temporary presence of US forces in specific facilities of the Armed Forces of the Philippines and will thresh out the details of the agreed policy on IRP (increased rotational presence),” the DND said.

It will be different from the Balikatan exercises which are limited to joint war games between Philippine and US forces.

Sources said the new agreement would likely contain provisions on the use of US equipment by the Philippine military in situations in which these would be needed.—With TJ Burgonio and Norman Bordadora

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  • txtman

    __________ WE, LOVE YOU USA! _______
    .
    WELCOME TO THE PHILIPPINES
    WE ARE SO HAPPY!

    • 33Sam

      GAY!!!

  • blue_lights

    Hey anti-USA folks, come and make your voice heard, we are curious to see if you have any new and original comments to express.

    • Crazy_horse101010

      spammy doesnt have anything new same old same old conspiracy crap

      • 33Sam

        POOPOO_HORSE NEVER HAS ANYTHING NEW SO HE HAS TO CONTINUALLY MONITOR MY POSTS SO HE CAN!!!

        GASLIGHTING F@GGOT!!!

      • Crazy_horse101010

        gee i thought purple weed and you were monitoring my posts. when you were following around now how does it feel, and. you have nothing to monitor love you to sweetheart . except daisy has stolen your heart. byebye

      • blue_lights

        I know, he used to be mildly entertaining but now I’m just bored of his antics.

      • 33Sam

        BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO SEE ANY LIGHT BLUE_SHITE!!!

        OF COURSE A CHILD IS ENTERTAINED BY SIMPLE THINGS!!

        AND SINCE I’M NOT SIMPLE, YOU CAN’T BE!!!

        STAY A CHILD, FLIPPERS ALWAYS ARE EVEN WHEN THEY GET 90!!!

      • Crazy_horse101010

        talking to me, gasbag. HAWHAWHAW PITIFUL

      • Crazy_horse101010

        i think im driving him crazier than he already was. i still get a laugh out of him.. especially when he said the cia created mao. mao who was around in the early thirties and the cia didnt exist until around 1945. that one really got him upset

      • blue_lights

        hahaha well his revisionist history can be somewhat funny I guess

      • 33Sam

        TO A MONKEY ANYTHING BEYOND THE SCOPE OF HIS COMPREHENSION IS FUNNY HENCE HERE YOU ARE!!!

        SOCKPUPPET!!!

      • blue_lights

        Oh, do shut up. Nobody cares what goes on in your pea brain.

      • kulkat8

        Do not stoop to the level of an individual who probably believes that Elvis is still alive.

      • 33Sam

        DO NOT FLATTER YOURSELF TO HAVE A BRAIN!!!

        THAT IS YOUR FIRST MISTAKE SOCKPUPPET!!!

        ANOTHER TROLL SENT IN TO SMOTHER THE INFO LEAKING OUT ABOUT BULL$HIT FILIPINO POLITICIANS FOLLOWING THE NEW WORLD ORDER’S FOREIGN NAZIS!!!

      • blue_lights

        Didn’t you get the memo? He claims to be Elvis!

      • 33Sam

        DID YOU TELL YOUR MOM SHE FAILED TO IMPROVE YOUR RACE???

      • 33Sam

        DON’T FLATTER YOURSELF MONKEY!!!

        YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO BEST ME.

        YOU ARE TRYING HARD GASLIGHTING SUPERIMPOSING YOUR PUTRID COMMENTS AS IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING DEEP AND IMPORTANT TO SAY!!!

        AND THEN COMMENTING YOU’VE WON???

        YOU SOUND LIKE THE POLITICIANS WHO’VE SPENT BILLIONS ON A COMPUTERIZED VOTING SYSTEM SO THEY CAN EASILY PROCLAIM THEMSELVES THE WINNER!!!

      • blue_lights

        blah blah blah… NEXT!

      • 33Sam

        I SMELL SPERM.. DID YOU F@RT!!!???

    • 33Sam

      THIS ISN’T ABOUT ANTI-U.S ANYTHING THIS IS ABOUT ANTI-GLOBALIST EUGENICS. AGENDA 21!!!

      THE GLOBALISTS HATE MEN IN UNIFORM!!!

      @BLUE_LIGHTS IS A LIAR!!!

      LEARN THE DIFFERENCE!!!

      SOCKPUPPET TROLL TRYING TO PLEASE HIS MASTERS!!

      “No man escapes when freedom fails, the best men rot in filthy jails. And those who cried,”appease appease” are hung by those they tried to please.”

      HAY NAKO!!!

  • 33Sam

    YES THE BETRAYAL STARTS AND BECAUSE THEY MADE A PUBLICATION, LITTLE FLIPPERS TOO MYOPIC TO KNOW THEY ARE INVITING THE VAMPIRE, CELEBRATE THEIR UNDOING WITH AS MUCH IGNORANCE AS THEY CAN MUSTER. WHICH IS NOT THAT HARD FOR FLIPPERS BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TRAITORS TO THEMSELVES HAVING NO IDEOLOGY TO SPEAK OF AND FLIP-FLOP FROM ONE THING TO THE NEXT!!!

    BASTA WINNING SIDE SILA HANGGANG SA SUSUNOD NA “WINNER” KASI FLIPPERS HAVE “NO SENSE OF THEMSELVES” AND WILL CHANGE SIDES AT THE DROP OF A HAT!!!

    MGA POKPOK KASI!!!

    PATHETIC LOSERS.

    THEY HAVE NO INKLING THAT BEING SO EASILY LED AND EAGER TO BETRAY MAKES THOSE WHO CONTROL THEM DESPISE THEM ALL THE MORE SO WHILE FLIPPERS GET USED, THEY WILL BE HATED BY THE USERS FOR NOT HAVING ANY SENSE NOR SELF RESPECT!!!

    • blue_lights

      Hey Scabby, just some friendly advice here… you’re not exactly gaining any followers by acting like a red-faced nutcase.

      And all those insults that you will undoubtedly post about me soon? They don’t make you look intelligent or well-informed, no matter what your delusions tell you.

      Perhaps if you toned it down a little, people might actually bother to listen to what you have to say.

      • 33Sam

        HEY F@GGOT I COULD GIVE A $HIT ABOUT FOLLOWERS HERE.

        SEE… YOU’VE ALREADY PRONOUNCED YOUR WHOLE BULL$HIT SOCIAL-MEDIA-TRENDY-BAKLA STANCE WHICH IS BEING HERE SO YOU CAN BE “POPULAR….”

        WHAT A MORONIC INFERENCE!!!

        GASLIGHTING MEATPUPPET TRYING TO BAMBOOZLE LOW INFORMATION LURKERS!!!

        THIS INFORMATION IS NOT FOR YOU SO WHY ANSWER IT??

        BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL THREATENED BY IT AND IT IS IMPORTANT WHILE YOU WANT TO DIMINISH IT AND MAKE IT GO AWAY SO YOU CAN BRING ON WORLD WAR 3 AND KILL OFF MILLIONS OF FLIPPERS!!!

        AT LEAST I DIDN’T LIE TO THEM LIKE YOU AND THE OTHERS ARE!!!

        WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

        O’VOMIT ‘S ALREADY CALLED BACK TROOP SUPPORT IN EGYPT WHICH MEANS= HIS AL CIA-DA IS GOING TO DO A MOP-UP OP. THE SEEDS OF WORLD WAR THREE ARE SOWN

        MAKE NO MISTAKE!!!

      • blue_lights

        What a waste of space this ^ idiot has become.

      • 33Sam

        WHAT A BAKLA FOR THE NEW WORLD ORDER THIS BLUE_FAIRY TIGHTS IS AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN!!!

        GASLIGHTING LIKE A SNAKE IN A TRAP!!!

  • CmdrAdobo

    Philippines should also make money from it.

    • 33Sam

      YOU MEAN THE TRAITORS SIGNING THIS WILL MAKE MONEY ON IT NOT THE AVERAGE FILIPINO!!!

      THE GLOBALISTS ARE TOO BUSY LEVYING ALL MANNER OF TAXES TO MAKE ANYONE HAVE ANY REAL MONEY MEANWHILE THEY AND THEIR CRONY PLOT-ICIANS ARE ALL SHARING THE LOOT WHILE THEY SIGN AWAY THE VESTIGES OF PHILIPPINE SOVEREIGNTY WHICH HEAD CROOK FIDEL RAMOS PAVED THE WAY FOR IN 1997 WHEN HE EXECUTIVE ORDERED PA 21 AKA AGENDA 21!!! GIVING UP SOVEREIGNTY TO BECOME A SUZERAINTY UNDER THE UNITED NATIONS, JUST ANOTHER “CLUB” OF TECHNOCRAT CROOKS RUN BY THE GLOBALISTS, THE ROCKEFELLERS ET AL TO INSTALL WORLD DOMINATION AND GENOCIDE FOR THE 21ST CENTURY BY FOOLING WEAK MINDED FILIPINOS INTO THINKING PAINTING A TARGET ON THEIR BACKS BY ALLOWING THE U.S MILITARY TO COME IN IS A; “It also comes at a time of the US’s rebalancing of its military forces in the Asia Pacific region in the face of increasing Chinese aggression.”

      WHICH IS UTTER BULL$HIT BECAUSE THE U.S HAS BASES ALL OVER THE PACIFIC. GUAM IS LOADED TO THE HILT WITH U.S. MILITARY PERSONNEL, SHIPS AND GEAR.

      WHAT THE GLOBALISTS WANT IS TO MAKE THE PHILIPPINES THE BATTLE SCENE WITH ALL THE BLOOD, MURDER, THE BIO-WEAPON TEST USAGE BECAUSE THERE ARE IN THEIR ESTIMATION “TOO MANY FILIPINOS” SO THEY NEED TO CULL SEVERAL MILLIONS BY MAKING THE U.S. MILITARY AN ATTRACTION FOR CHINA TO HAVE REASON TO BE TARGETING THE PHILIPPINE AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY!!!

      THE INQUIRER IS WHORE MEDIA PI$$TREAM NEWS PROPAGANDISTS WHO HAVE ZERO INTEGRITY AND ARE JUST MOUTH PUPPETS FOR THE NEW WORLD ORDER OF HEGEMONIC GENOCIDE!!!

      THE IDIOTS IN GOVERNMENT ARE WHORES AS WELL SELLING THEIR SOVEREIGNTY AWAY ALL THE MORE!!!

      HITLER BOUGHT OFF FRANCE’S GENERALS!!!

      WHAT MORE BUYING OFF FLIPPERS!?!

      • Crazy_horse101010

        YAWN BORING NIGHT NIGHT ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

      • 33Sam

        F@GGOT SAYS WHAT???

        GASLIGHTING SOCKPUPPET!!!

      • Crazy_horse101010

        i dont know just what are you saying. gaslighting? i bet your mother was sad when she found out that she flushed the baby down the toilet and kept the afterbirth i feel sorry foe her. now be a little girl and go play with your doll or puppet girlie

      • 33Sam

        LOOK IT UP GASLIGHTING SCUMBAG!!!

        A form of intimidation or psychological abuse, sometimes called Ambient Abuse where false information is presented to the victim, making them doubt their own memory, perception and quite often, their sanity. The classic example of gaslighting is to switch something around on someone that you know they’re sure to notice, but then deny knowing anything about it, and to explain that they “must be imagining things” when they challenge these changes.

        A more psychological definition of gaslighting is “an increasing frequency of systematically withholding factual information from, and/or providing false information to, the victim – having the gradual effect of making them anxious, confused, and less able to trust their own memory and perception.

        SOCKPUPPET LOSER!!!

        HAS TO ACT LIKE A FLIPPER ASKING “WHAT’S THIS… WHAT’S THAT??

        TYPICAL FLIPPER CR@P SQUIRMS LIKE A TOAD IN THE GRIP OF REALITY AND TRIES TO CONSPIRACY DENY BECAUSE HE’S A BOUGHT OFF WHORE!!!

      • Crazy_horse101010

        so tell someone who gives a rats azz because i dont care i considered the source long ago and found you lacking cry baby and guess what im not looking up anything you post waste of time i dont deal in fairy tales. and why would i be squirming nothing to squirm about junior. so save your bull shzt for someone else there is not one thing you can say that will bother because i know the truth and you lunatics arent it. anyway nice day isnt it. suns out birds chipping and life is great i know you cant see this hiding under your bed. to bad you are missing out on life TATA gaslighting is perfect description of you because you switch things around and spread proven lies in these forums and sob sob sob poor child

      • 33Sam

        YOU DON’T THAT’S WHY YOU DON’T COUNT!!!

        SOCKPUPPET!!!

      • Crazy_horse101010

        HAWHAWHAWHAW FUNNY POOR BABY

      • blue_lights

        What’s that Scam, you don’t know how to count? hahaha Why am I not surprised? I guess you can’t watch Sesame Street because you might get brainwashed by the globalist CIA, huh?

      • 33Sam

        GASLIGHTING DISTRACTION STOCKHOLM SYNDROME NORMALCY BIAS JUST LIKE THE GERMANS IN NAZI GERMANY WHO HEARD THE BOMBS GO OFF IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD BUT REFUSED TO BELIEVE ANYTHING WAS WRONG!!!

        A STUPID PERSON MAKES FUN OF WHAT THEY CAN NOT FATHOM!!!

      • blue_lights

        Please stop crying, the sound of your wailing grows tiresome.

      • 33Sam

        YOU SHOULD STOP LYING!!! THE SOUND OF COVERING UP THE TRUTH IS DEMONIC!!!

        SOCKPUPPET WITH THE GASLIGHTING!!! TOO AFRAID OF THE TRUTH!!!

      • blue_lights

        ha ha ha ha ha! oh spammy, my days would be so boring without you…

      • 33Sam

        ZIG ZAG FLIP FLOP FLIPPANT FLIPPER IS BEHAVING ACCORDING TO HIS GENETIC FAILINGS!!!

      • blue_lights

        Spammy, everyone knows about your failings but you don’t need to keep blaming your own mother for them…

      • 33Sam

        FALLACY OF ARGUMENT: AD POPULUM!!!

        BADUY TALAGA THIS CRETIN FOR THE NEW WORLD DISORDER!!

      • blue_lights

        What, you’re a gasbag? So what else is new Scabby?

        You better get yourself looked at, all the little aliens in your head are making your brains rot…

      • 33Sam

        YOU BETTER CHECK YOUR INFORMATION. YOU KNOW NOTHING AND IT SHOWS!!!

        SOCKPUPPET GASLIGHTING ACTING LIKE A TYPICAL FILIPINO TOO FLIPPANT FOR HIS OR ANYONE’S GOOD!!!

  • 33Sam

    YOUR LEADERS ARE TRAITORS!!!

    • blue_lights

      psst… I’m the only one who actually bothered to waste his time responding to your inane comment. Know what else? I actually clicked the down arrow just so you can get some attention. You’re welcome.

      • 33Sam

        GASLIGHTING!!!

        YOU “RESPONDED???”

        MORE LIKE YOU ATTACKED.

        YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO KNOW WHAT WORDS TO CHOOSE ITS OBVIOUS YOU ARE A TROLL SENT IN TO COVER UP THE TRUTH!!!

        GET OVER YOUR DUMB SELF. I AM NOT HERE LIKE YOU GAYLORD TRYING TO BE “POPULAR AND TRENDY!!!”

        WHOMEVER HAS DISCERNMENT WILL FIND THE INFO..

        FLIPTRASH LIKE YOU NEEDN’T BOTHER!!

        YOU HAVE TO GET IN MY FACE BECAUSE YOU WERE PAID TO DO IT BUT FAILING AS USUAL!!!

        FCUKING FLIPS THOUGHT THEY WERE SO SMART, THEY THOUGHT THE WORLD WAS THEIR OYSTER BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ISLANDS. BUT WHERE WERE YOUR BRAINS WHEN FIDEL RAMOS MIDNIGHT SIGNED EXECUTIVE ORDER PA 21 IN 1997 AKA AGENDA 21 AND SOLD PHILIPPINE SOVEREIGNTY DOWN THE RIVER TO BECOME A SUZERAINTY UNDER THE UNITED NATIONS, THE SAME FRAT GROUP OWNED AND CONTROLLED BY THE ROCKEFELLERS WHO INSTITUTED THE IRRI AT LOS BANOS IN 1959 SO THEY COULD MAKE KALIKOT THE ORIGINAL SEEDS AND STEAL THEM TO STORE IN THEIR DOOMSDAY VAULT BUILT BY BILLYBOOB GATES???!!!

        MEANWHILE BRINGING IN GMO AS PER CODEX ALIMENTARIUS’ PLAN IMPLEMENTED BY THE U.N. AND THE W.H.O. IN DECEMBER OF 2009 TO PURPOSELY KILL 3 BILLION PEOPLE AS A FIRST STAGE!!!

        SUCK UP THEM CORN AND CORN CHIPS, DOLE PINEAPPLES THAT FRUIT FLIES WON’T LAND ON..

        LET’S SEE…. WHAT ELSE COULD WE FCUK WITH NEXT???

        WONDERS NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE!!!

      • blue_lights

        hahaha ok Spammy. I will play with you again later. In the meantime, I need to go out into the real world. Unlike yourself, I still have a life.

        Please don’t miss me too much.

      • 33Sam

        I CAN MULTI TASK, GAYLORD.

        YOU ARE A SIMPLETON WITH THE BRAIN OF A SMALL PRIMATE!!!

        GET OVER YOUR LYING SELF, SOCKPUPPET!!!

  • 33Sam

    AMERICANS, CHINESE AND FILIPINOS ARE DUPES FOR THE NEW WORLD ORDER!!!

    • Crazy_horse101010

      the new world order was supposed to happen at the year 2000 according to fanatics what happened?

      • 33Sam

        GASLIGHTING!!!

        BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE ME ITS BEHIND BY 10 YEARS. BUT KEEP IT UP FLIPPER THE 21ST CENTURY IS NOT OVER YET!!

        ALWAYS WITH THE BULL$HIT “WHAT HAPPENED LINE!!”

        I DON’T CARE WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW BECAUSE YOU KNOW NOTHING!!!

      • Crazy_horse101010

        as if i care. you never give a straight answer anyway because you cant think of one. thats funny people like you are locked up in a funny farm. cutting out paper dolls take care and see you around tata

      • blue_lights

        WOW! Scumbucket here has single-handedly postponed the apocalypse!

        You’ve been watching too many movies, young man…

      • Crazy_horse101010

        LOL

      • 33Sam

        YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO REALIZE THE CIA CONTROLS HOLLYWOOD. MUCH OF WHAT COMES OUT OF HOLLYWOOD IS THE WRITING ON THE WALL DUMB MONKEY!!!

        SOCKPUPPET!!!

        WHEN YOU GET “IN TUNE” I WILL LET YOU KNOW!!!

        RED HERRING!!!

    • blue_lights

      Just because retards like yourself are not invited to the party, does not mean that you should be sour-graping all over the Internet.

      • 33Sam

        FALLACY OF ARGUMENT: AD HOMINEM.

        THIS IGNORAMUS F@GGY_TIGHTS STILL DOESN’T GET IT.

        KULANG SA EDUCATION!!!

        SOCKPUPPET!!!

  • joboni96

    ‘provisions on the use of US equipment by the Philippine military’

    mga hunghang talaga
    mga collaborators na mga ito

    tandaan nating mga totoong pilipino
    ang mga collaborators na mga ito

    Carlos Sorreta, dfa
    Pio Lorenzo Batino, dnd
    Francisco Baraan III doj
    Raymund Quilop dnd

    papailalim ba naman ang imperyalista ang gamit nila
    sa atin

    moro moro lang yan
    para mailagay nila ang gamit nila sa bayan natin

    kahit labag sa ating konstitusyon at interes
    dadating na mga radar nila

    madaling magbobobobohan pag kumikita ka
    at isang collaborator

  • 33Sam

    OBAMA SHOWING HIS REAL SIDE.

    LEFT EGYPT SO HIS ALTER EGO, AL CIA-DA, CAN GO IN AND “CLEAN UP!!!”

    REALLY SMOOTH MOVE EXLAX.

    SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN NOW IF ANOTHER COUNTRY GETS “INVADED?”

    WILL YOU WITHDRAW SUPPORT???

    NAZI TACTICS PLAYED OUT!!! DOUBLE CROSSING AUTHORITARIANS.

    OLDEST TRICK IN THE BOOKS!!!

    FCUKING FLIPPERS TOO STUPID TO SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE!!!

    ENTER NOW THE SOCKPUPPETS BELOW AND PREDICTABLY THEY WILL BE THE USUAL BAND OF MONKEYS INFESTING THESE THREADS!!! YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!

    SPEAK, MONKEYS, SPEAK!!!

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