Talks up on wider US military role in PH

WARSHIP  Philippines’ second Hamilton-class cutter: BRP Ramon Alcaraz. AFP

MANILA, Philippines—Government officials say they will soon begin negotiations with the United States on a larger American military presence to help deter what they say is increasing Chinese aggression in Philippine-claimed waters in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea).

Japan’s newest, largest warship: Helicopter destroyer DDH183 Izumo. AFP

In a letter to Philippine congressional leaders, the secretaries of national defense and foreign affairs said that allowing American troops to have an “increased rotational presence” will help the country attain a “minimum credible defense” to guard its territory while it struggles to modernize its own military, one of Asia’s weakest.

A larger American presence would also mean more resources and training for responding to disasters in a nation often battered by typhoons and earthquakes, Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin and Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario said in their letter, a copy of which was obtained by The Associated Press on Thursday.

“The Philippines will shortly enter into consultations and negotiations with the United States on a possible framework agreement that would implement our agreed policy of increased rotational presence,” Gazmin and Del Rosario said.

US officials were not immediately available for comment.

Sensitive issue

The presence of foreign troops is a sensitive issue in the Philippines, a former American colony. The Philippine Senate voted in 1991 to close down major American bases at Subic and Clark.

China’s first aircraft carrier: Refitted Soviet-era Liaoning. AFP

The Constitution forbids foreign troops from being permanently based in the country, but the Senate ratified a 1999 pact with the United States that allows temporary visits by American forces.

Gazmin and Del Rosario assured lawmakers that any new accord with Washington “will be consistent with our Constitution.”

Several of China’s neighbors have been alarmed by Beijing’s recent assertiveness in claiming large areas of the South China Sea.

Manila’s desire to bolster its external defense and security has dovetailed with Washington’s intention to pivot away from years of heavy military engagement in the Middle East to Asia, where it has been fostering closer economic and military alliances with countries such as the Philippines, partly as a counterweight to China’s rising clout.

The realignment of American forces in the Asia-Pacific also involves the deployment of up to 2,500 US Marines in northern Australia and the stationing of US combat vessels in Singapore.

Gazmin had said additional American troops would only be allowed to have access to the country’s existing military bases under terms the Philippines would negotiate with the US government. The two sides would have to negotiate the length of any agreement allowing more US troops, planes, ships and other equipment.

Under the current Visiting Forces Agreement, hundreds of American counterterrorism troops have been allowed to stay in the volatile Mindanao region since 2002 to train Filipino soldiers battling al-Qaida-linked Abu Sayyaf militants and a handful of foreign terrorist suspects from Indonesia and Malaysia.

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  • md’c™

    All we ever wanted is have a One-China to be civilized and civil with their neighbors. That is not what China wants. It wants to conquer every islets and within the EEZ of other nations like the Philippines. And this is not OK. We need to get rid of this uncivilized chimps our of our shores, out of our EEZ and out of our islets, now.

    If it comes to worst, they need to be nuked out to get rid of them. Fithty rats and unbathed people. The skunks of the earth. We do not want them around our shores and our seas. We do not want any illegal chinese in our lands stealing our natural resources left and right from Zambales to Babuyan Islands, to the Cagayan areas. They are blatantly stealing black ores, black sands and metals used to make the very weapon they use against our citizens and our islets in our EEZ.

    • Punyëtero»Ka

      An example is this opinyonlangpo which is a 50c troll bandying about his race’s “superiority” & culture. This is precisely the reason why almost everyone they come into contact with ends up agreeing to do your suggestion!

      • Barry

        I read many of his posts. This guy looks more like a white foreigner residing in the Philippines than anything. You don’t look like a citizen that was raised from here either judging from the way you speak which is different from our local culture. You sounded probably like an angry American or Australian and he obviously initially mistaken you for a local street toughie. :-)

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        Just par for someone like you, who advises to just take it on the chin from the PRC & promotes the idea of a new Greater Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. I don’t care for what you think of me. If my assessment is correct, you can take a long walk on a very short pier for all I care.

      • Barry

        What you seem to preach here is that all Filipinos have to be 100% pro-America,100% anti-China and no questions can be asked and anything that diverts is blasphemy. However the reason for this conflict here is merely money because EEZ is equivalent to money. So the solution is first to negotiate for something equivalent perhaps tens of trillions of dollars for example. It’s never too late to go to war if agreement cannot be reach.

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        It’s actually the posts of their 50c party trolls that advocates complete submission to the PRC that you aid in your advocacy. Have your followed these trolls & their line of reasoning? I have long given up using logic on them. . The PH is a free country & though the present administration has the backing of the majority, it’s lunacy to expect even 80% to be anti-PRC . Note that I always exclude Taiwan or the ROC as they have experienced the same treatment from the PRC. It’s not money alone as you say. These shoving smaller neighbors has to stop, in fact it has sparked a new arms race due to these actions. Use good manners & right conduct with them if that’s your concern, but don’t tell me to!

      • Barry

        I only read some of their posts but only the more intelligent ones. IMO there is no right and wrong. It’s relative. It depends on which perspective you are trying to look at. History or EEZ? Let the tribunal decide.

        To negotiate means to bargain. Willing to negotiate doesn’t mean we are already kowtowing. We are only giving ourselves more options to weigh and study which of course must be for the Filipino welfare primarily. We need to take this extra mile because our country is also economically vulnerable to them which America probably cannot defend if such scenario arises.

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        Problem is their thinking “what’s mine is mine, what’s yours is mine too, no ifs or buts about it”. The country needs to prepare for the worst case scenario. The Munich Agreement was supposed to bring “peace in our time” in 1938. A year later, it was proved the opposite as it only emboldened the Nazis. I fear this will be the same with the PRC.

      • Barry

        Even Japan vs Korea, Russia vs Japan neither side are going to back down until they start to talk to one another. Since China has offered to negotiate I think they should/would acknowledge our EEZ to begin with else there is no point to negotiate. They didn’t grant this however to Japan. For the Munich Agreement, Hitler is a Nazist dictator that nobody can oppose. Where can you find such dictator nowadays in China? Beside we also have the U.N. which was created for that purpose. On preparing for the worst case scenario, yes if we can be countries like Japan and Korea but we are still very far away from attaining and do not even have the will, unity and support from other countries to begin. It will be easier when the playing field is still level during the time when Asia is still poor.

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        Didn’t they have the League of Nations too? Present leaders in PRC are culled from the lot of them who also has a mindset similar to Mao. No, would rather keep our guard up. We could go the way of the Tibetans, the Uighurs. The ROC knows this that’s why they’re not attracted by the traps set by the PRC.

      • Barry

        Keeping our guard up is natural thing to do with American assistance. But we still have to see how much America is willing to sacrifice it’s interest for our interest. Much better if they just proclaim our EEZ for us than staying neutral. If China attacks our economy America also has to aid us lest we may implode internally.

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        Then go with your choice, I go with mine!

      • 33Sam

        AGAIN THE U.S. MILITARY WILL BE SACRIFICED IN THE UPCOMING WORLD WAR 3 WHICH IS BEING SET UP PRECISELY WITH THIS U.S. MILITARY BUILD-UP IN THE PHILIPPINES TURNING THE PHILIPPINE ISLANDS INTO A BATTLE FIELD. CHINA WILL BE THE GLOBALISTS’ MILITARY TO DECAPITATE THE U.S. MILITARY AS THE GLOBALISTS FEAR THE AMERICAN SOLDIER WILL FIGURE OUT THEY’VE BEEN FOOLED AND WILL FIGHT THE NEW WORLD ORDER.

        EVEN OBAMA IS A TRAITOR TO THE UNITED STATES AND IS A MASK FOR THE GLOBALISTS!!!

        OF COURSE SINCE FILIPINOS NEVER HAVE A MIND OF THEIR OWN, THEIR LEADERS ARE EXTRA STUPID FLIP FLOPPERS LIKE AGUINALDO WAS DURING THE SPANISH AMERICAN WAR!!!

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        FA la la la, la la la la!

      • 33Sam

        FLIPPER IS TOO ASHAMED HE HAS A LEGACY FULL OF A$$HOLES WHO THINK LIKE HE DOES!!!

        WHERE ARE YOUR THOMAS JEFFERSON’S??

        YOU HAVE NONE!!!

        YOU HAD TO HAVE THE CIA INVENT “HEROES” FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO INEPT CLUSTEFCUKS ROAMING AROUND THROWING MONKEY FECES IN ALL DIRECTIONS!

        SOCKPUPPET!!! LOSER CULTURE!!!

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        Some landed in your mouth & you swallowed it. Want more?

      • 33Sam

        YOU WISH MONKEY BRAIN!

        MEATPUPPET!!

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        Wingnut on the loose!!

      • 33Sam

        POOPOOTEROKA ALWAYS LOSING!!!

        HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        Wingnut, wingnut!!

      • 33Sam

        FLIPPER LOSER NO NOSE FOR ANYTHING INTELLIGENT ALWAYS DUMB FROM THE TIME HE WAS MADE BY HIS MUM!!!

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        OOga, ooga, wingnut, wingnut!!

      • 33Sam

        NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY YOU WILL COME TO THE REALIZATION YOU ARE USELESS!!!

        NAAAAHHH YOU’RE TOO STUPID FOR ANY SELF REALIZATION!!!

        YOU NEED SOMEONE TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU ARE AND HOW TO THINK!!

        THAT’S WHY YOU ARE HERE TRYING TO GET ANY SENSE!!!

        YOU WILL NEVER HAVE ANY BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE THE MENTAL CAPACITY!!

        YOU WILL ALWAYS BE A FLIPPANT FLIPPER FLIP!!!

        LOSER!!!

        WATCH THE MONKEY REPEAT HIMSELF!!!

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        Wingnut (4X),,,ooga, ooga!!

      • 33Sam

        THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS WAS THE FIRST MODEL OF THE U.N. STILL BOTH IDEAS WERE GLOBALIST SPAWNED, CONTROLLED AND BANKROLLED!!!

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        Get outa here wingnut, you’re intruding! Take your shet elsewhere!

      • 33Sam

        MAKE ME BAHO’G BILAT!!!

        YOU POST WHAT YOU WANT AND I GET TO SAY ANYTHING I WANT!!!

        TAKE YOUR $HIT AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR A$$ AND CLIMB UP AFTER IT!!!

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        Fa la la, la la la la la! Raot na plaka!

      • 33Sam

        FLIPPER CALLING A REAL MAN A FROG??? THAT’S NOVEL!!!

        NAAAAAH HE STILL HAS THAT HUBCAP HE THINKS IS A MIRROR STUCK TO HIS FACE!!! HE JUST GLIMPSED HIMSELF AND GOT CONFUSED!!!

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

        MEATPUPPET!!!

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        Kapatal mo, di basang isi na raot naka! Rage, rage against the dying of your mind! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

      • 33Sam

        YOU HAVE NO MIND YOU ARE A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF POMPOUS STUPIDITY SOCIOPATHIC MONKEY $HIT!!!

        SOCKPUPPET!!!

        YOU WILL GET YOURS!!!

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        Still waiting for your Armageddon, wingnut! Step? no, step? yes!

      • 33Sam

        STILL TRYING TO HAVE ANYTHING DEEP AND FACTUAL TO SAY SOCKPUPPET!!?

        GO PICK YOUR FLAT NOSE NOW..

        DON’T PICK TOO DEEP THOUGH YOU MIGHT PICK AT THE SNOT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO ACT MORE LIKE A MONKEY!!!

        WHAT A FAILURE!!!

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        Oooga, ooga, scratch, scratch.!!

      • 33Sam

        YEAH BETTER GET SOME DOLE GMO BANANAS TO GO WITH THAT MONKEY MOVE!!!

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        Feed me, fed me (jump, jump!)..wingnut!!

      • 33Sam

        YES TROLLS ARE TOO STUPID TO FEED THEMSELVES SO EAT $HIT AND DIE LOSER!!!

        SOCKPUPPET!!!

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        (Tug, tug) ooga, ooga, wingnut (3X)!!

      • 33Sam

        LOSER LOSER LOSER LOSER FLIP STUPID MOM STUPID TRIP, STUPID DAD AND STUPID QUIPS MAKES A FLIPPER A STUPID FLIP!!!

        WATCH THE MONKEY REPEAT HIS SHALLOW SELF!!!

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        Wingnut (5X) ooga, ooga!!

      • 33Sam

        NAIVE!!!
        THE UNITED NATIONS IS THE GOON FORCE FOR THE GLOBALISTS. EVEN WONDER WHY DAVID ROCKEFELLER WINS SO MANY AWARDS?? ITS BECAUSE HE’S THE INVENTOR OF THE U.N.

        THE PHILIPPINES SIGNED AGENDA 21 AKA PA21 IN 1997 WHEN FIDEL RAMOS WAS BOUGHT OFF TO BETRAY HIS COUNTRY INTO GIVING UP PHILIPPINE SOVEREIGNTY TO THE U.N. MAKING THE PHILIPPINES AS WELL AS CHINA ND THE UNITED STATES A SUZERAINTY UNDER THE U.N WHICH MEANS THE U.N CONTROLS THE MILITARIES OF ALL NATIONS WHO SIGNED AGENDA 21.

        AGENDA 21 IS A GENOCIDE PLOT FOR KILLING OFF 90% OF THE HUMAN POPULATION ON THE PLANET WHILE STEALING ALL LANDS AND NATURAL RESOURCES.

        YOU ARE NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE U.N. IS CONTROLLED BY FASCIST GLOBALISTS WHO ARE EUGENICISTS!!!

        TIME TO WAKE UP!!!

    • klepto

      ANG PROBLEMA PARE AY ANG MGA PULITIKO NATIN ANG UNANG NAGBEBENTA SA ATING YAMAN DOON SA MGA TSEKWA. DAPAT ISA-ISAHIN MO MUNA ASSASSINATE ETONG MGA PULITKO NATIN NA MAGALING LANG SA TSUPA NG UTEN AT KANTOT SA PUWET.

  • CommonSense

    Can we just allow the USA to open their bases here. I honestly do not understand why they are not being permitted to do so. Let them open their bases, let us leech of them in terms of security and finance, and China won’t bug us anymore. Case closed.

    It was pretty stupid not to extend the US Bases here in our country. The bases not only helped improve the local economy of the certain area they operate at, but also provided a sense of security. The people who voted against this were just clouded with the Cory administration who were illogically against anything the Marcos Government supported. What the people do not understand was that although the Marcos Government was a bad one, they were quite successful at increasing the Philippines claim in global presence, thereby creating a good sense of global security.

    Let the US open their bases here. They currently are shifting their interest to Asia, away from the Middle East. If one understand how the US works, it is clear that they come with high economical advantages. The US typically pours money into countries who they deem critical for their National Security. Philippines falls into this sweet spot because the country is strategically placed. Allowing them to open their bases means additional support from the US Government. Just to reiterate, allowing them to open their bases here automatically puts us under the blanket of their National Security. Philippines, we all know to what extent the US will go to financially and economically to ensure National Security.

    Just a thought.

    • blue_lights

      Because another Erap Estrada and Nikki Coseteng tandem, i.e. lawmakers with nothing better to do than demonize foreign powers, will be looking for another reason to put themselves on the newspaper headlines.

      And guess what? The same idiots that keep voting them into power will keep supporting their myopic rhetoric.

      • 33Sam

        MAYBE ESTRADA HAD MORE BALLS THAN THE REST OF YOU PEA-SIZED SCROTUM SOCIOPATHS.

        MAYBE THAT’S WHY HE WAS TAKEN OUT OF OFFICE FOR SUCH A FLIMSY EXCUSE SO ANOTHER GLOBALIST MINION COULD TAKE HIS PLACE!!!

        RHETORIC???

        YOU ARE THE MYOPIC ONE, BLUE_FAIRY-TIGHTS SOCIOPATH!!!

      • KarlosRegaza

        Empty kettle!

      • 33Sam

        MORON WITH INFERIOR GENETICS!!!

      • KarlosRegaza

        Look at your posts.. you will discover something – a moron codenamed 33Sam. Hahaha.

        Indeed an empty kettle.

    • 33Sam

      BECAUSE YOU ARE A SOCIOPATH THAT DOES SELECTIVE READING, HEAR NO EVIL CHIMPANZEE CR@P MAKING YOU A SPIN TROLL MEATPUPPET.

      WHY DON’T YOU GROW A BRAIN AND A PAIR AND STOP BEING A FCUKING WHORE FOR THE NEW WORLD ORDER!!!

      THIS BUILDUP IS PRECISELY THE GLOBALIST EUGENICIST CENTURIES- OLD PLOT TO ARM BOTH SIDES OF WORLD WAR 3 WHERE CHINA IS BEING PREPARED TO KNOCK OUT THE U.S. MILITARY.

      HERE WE GO AGAIN WITH SELLING THE “FINANCIAL PERKS” OF “NATIONAL SECURITY” AS IF THAT EXISTS FOR THE PHILIPPINES.

      AS LONG AS FLIPPERS LEAVE THEIR SECURITY TO SOMEONE ELSE, THEY ARE DESTINED TO BE THE MEAT IN THE MEAT GRINDER ONCE THIS WAR KICKS OFF.

      GO SELL YOUR $H!T SOMEWHERE ELSE.

      COMMON SENSE IS A SOCKPUPPET.

      AND DON’T DO YOUR USUAL PSYCHIATRY QUACK-DOCTOR BULL$HIT BECAUSE YOU ARE WRONG!!!

      YOU VOMITED:

      “What the people do not understand was that although the Marcos Government was a bad one, they were quite successful at increasing the Philippines claim in global presence, thereby creating a good sense of global security.”

      FCUK YOU SOCIOPATH, MARCOS WAS CORRUPTED BY THE SAME PEOPLE PULLING THE STRINGS ON YOU SKIDMARK!!!

      THE ONLY ONE “PRETTY STUPID” HERE IS YOU AND THE SOCIOPATH MEATPUPPETS LIKE YOU PATROLLING THESE THREADS TO HYPNOTIZE THE MASSES WITH YOUR POISON!!!

      WAITING FOR A PREDICTABLE BORING SCIENTIFICALLY UNFOUNDED “PSYCHIATRIC EVALUATION” REPLY FROM “COMMON $H!T!!!”

      FCUK OFF PUPPET!!!

      • CommonSense

        It takes one to know one.

      • 33Sam

        YOU MEAN YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE, BUT I DO, COMMONSTENCH!!!

        SAY SOMETHING INTELLIGENT AND I’LL LET YOU KNOW!!

        WHAT A SOCKPUPPET!!!

        QUACK!!!

      • CommonSense

        I’m loving the hate you have. :)

        More please.

      • 33Sam

        BECAUSE YOU ARE A PSYCHOPATHIC SOCIOPATH LOSER WHO THINKS YOU HAVE A HUMAN MIND.

        YOU ARE AN INSECT!!!

        COMMONSTENCH!!!

        SOCKPUPPET!!!

        FYI DUMBO I DON’T HATE YOU, I DESPISE YOU!!!

        MEATPUPPET QUACK!!!

      • KarlosRegaza

        Hahaha. You are hiding behind your monitor..

        Piece of advice, check your keyboard. You may have broke it.

      • 33Sam

        CHECK YOUR BRAIN YOUR HEAD IS EMPTY!!!

        DON’T GIVE ADVICE TO YOUR BETTERS!!!

        TAKE ADVICE AND GET A CLUE!!!

        BUT SINCE YOU ARE AS STUPID AS AGUINALDO WAS FLIP FLOPPING FROM SIDE TO SIDE EVEN IF THEY BOUGHT HIM OFF AND HE TOOK THE MONEY, HE STILL CAME BACK A FLIPPER.

        YOU CAN’T HELP IT, ITS IN YOUR GENES.

        YOU ARE MISSING THAT COMPONENT IN YOUR BRAIN, ITS CALLED FIDELITY!!!

      • CommonSense

        Oh please don’t stop!

        More dirty talk you naughty boy you!

      • KarlosRegaza

        Empty kettle and gay!

    • KarlosRegaza

      Agree!

      • 33Sam

        SO TWO IDIOTS AGREE???

        WELL CONGRATS!!!

        MEANWHILE, YOU TWO PUT YOUR HEADS TOGETHER AND MAKE AN A$$ OUT OF YOURSELVES!!!

        SOCKPUPPET!!!

      • KarlosRegaza

        An an empty kettle dislikes. Haha

  • klepto

    SIGE GAZMIN SUPSUPIN MO ANG UTEN NG MGA KANO. DILAAN MO ANG BAYAG AT LUNUKIN ANG TAMOD. PAGKATAPOS TUWAD KA PARA MAKANTOT ANG PUWET MO.

  • boybakal

    Talks up on wider US military role in PH

    This means to say….we as a nation is not yet capable of being a sovereign state, incapable of protecting its territory and its citizens.
    Back to Commonwealth State of America.

    • blue_lights

      Blame the stupid people for voting thieves into government.

      • Punyëtero»Ka

        Bro, why did you leave the gate open? Sham is inside trying to bite everyone again!

      • blue_lights

        Sorry man, I was busy reporting to our superiors at the globalist CIA. I asked them if they wanted to detain our friend Sam here.

        They said not to worry, his information is outdated and wrong, so there is no need for concern. In fact, they enjoy reading his comments on the Internet because it is now part of their regular entertainment.

      • 33Sam

        GASLIGHTING!!!!

        LIAR!!!

        BLUE_ FAIRY SHITE HAS NO INFORMATION!!!

    • 33Sam

      NO THIS TIME ITS ROLL OVER PHILIPPINES TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER WHO CONTROLS AMERICA, CHINA ET AL, AND IS PLANNING MASS GENOCIDE!!!

  • 33Sam

    FILIPINOS GETTING READY TO CUT THEIR OWN THROATS!!!

    TYPICAL!!!

    • KarlosRegaza

      Me not ready to cut your throat? You must be joking!

      Be serious because you are not exempted. Hahaha

      • 33Sam

        THREATS FROM BEHIND YOUR CHEAP KEYBOARD EVEN WORSE BEING DIRECTED BY THE LIKES OF YOU???

        STUPID FLIPPERS ARE TOO STUPID TO KNOW HOW STUPID THEY REALLY ARE.

        NOTHING ABOUT THEM IS REVEALING.

        THEY ALWAYS STICK THEIR A$$ES OUT AS FAR AS THEY CAN SO THAT’S ALL YOU SEE OF THEM!!

        NEVER A BEAUTIFUL MIND, ALWAYS AN UGLY USELESS EATER!!!

        WEAR YOUR BARONGS SO WE CAN SEE IF YOU STOLE THE SILVERWARE FROM THE U.S. MILITARY SHIPS WHEN THEY DOCK!!!

      • KarlosRegaza

        An empty threat coming from an rusty and noisy corroded empty kettle. Hahaha.

        Go rub yourself and find a genie!

  • KarlosRegaza

    33Sam is afraid of US presence in the Philippine soil.

    What are her reservations? Who is she? Guess….

    I guess she is a pretentious woman who will later flaunt with US Servicemen. Her nationality is questionable. She maybe a Chinese.. Her religious affiliation maybe Muslim.. She might be also a descendant of Joma.

    Just guessing..

  • sanjuan683

    Hindi namin kayo kailangan dahil maraming kayo kaaway sa buong mundo sigurado madadamay kami dito sa Pinas. Giyera ng US at Japan nadamay ang Pinas, nang matapos ang giyera mas unang tinulungan ng US ang Japan at ang Pinas pinabayaan.

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