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Pope tells youthful Tagle: ‘I thought you’re from kindergarten’


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MANILA, Philippines—Attending a meeting in Rome two weeks ago, Manila Archbishop Luis Antonio Cardinal Tagle got a dose of Pope Francis’ sense of humor.

Tagle, one of the youngest cardinals of the Roman Catholic Church, said the Holy Father teased him, saying that he thought the 56-year-old de facto primate of the Church in the Philippines had just come out of kindergarten.

The cardinal also quoted Francis as saying that despite the “magnitude of responsibility” he felt for the worldwide church of 1.1 billion souls, he was consoled by an inner “peace that does not come from me.”

“I was in Rome around two weeks ago for a meeting and after the meeting, we had an audience with the Holy Father,” Tagle said in his homily during an early evening Mass at the San Agustin Church in Intramuros, Manila on Friday.

“When he approached me, I said, `Your Holiness, I’m from Manila. I want to remind you I’m from the Philippines.’ He said, ‘Oh really, I thought you are from a kindergarten school.. scuola materna,” he added. “I said, ‘Oh my…Pope Benedict said I just received first Holy Communion. That’s (for) seven year old(s). Now, I’m in kindergarten…retreating.”

He might have been referring to the joke then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger reportedly made when he introduced Tagle to the late Pope John Paul II after Tagle joined the Vatican’s International Theological Commission in the mid-1990s.

Ratzinger supposedly assured the Polish pope that the youthful Filipino had already received his first Holy Communion.

“The following day, I had a personal audience with (Pope Francis) and I returned the joke. I told him, ‘Look, a few months ago, you were Cardinal Bergoglio. Now, look at you now… Imagine, I have to call you Pope Francesco,” Tagle said.

“You know what he said? ‘Ah…the mystery…I am a poor sinner.’ Almost the words of (Saint) Peter,” he added.

Tagle said he then asked Francis how he was doing.

The Holy Father replied: “This is something that I cannot explain. I look at the magnitude of the responsibility and I see it every day but what I marvel at is that, in my heart, there is peace…peace that does not come from me.”

“I should be rattled by now. I should be spending the nights sleepless but there is peace,” Tagle quoted the Pope as saying.

“So, again he says the mercy and compassion of God. I was so tempted to say ‘I have heard (Saint) Peter. I have heard (Saint) Paul,” Tagle added.

Tagle and 11 other archbishops and bishops—including Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines president and Cebu Archbishop Jose Palma—-concelebrated the Friday evening Mass to commemorate the Pope’s Day.

Papal nuncio Archbishop Giuseppe Pinto was the main celebrant and members of the diplomatic corps also attended.

Tagle, who was made a cardinal in November 2012, is apparently still adjusting to his role as a prince of the Church.

“Leaving the hall where we had the meeting, one of the Swiss Guards noticed me and called ‘Emineza! Eminenza! (Eminence! Eminence!)’ I kept on walking and he ran after me and said, ‘Hey, Eminenza’ and I just realized that, yes I am eminenza and it shocked me again,” Tagle said.

It turned out that the Swiss Guard was the one who escorted Tagle’s parents, brother and relatives during the consistory where he was created a cardinal.

“In fact, one of your cousins still sends me text messages,” the Swiss Guard told the cardinal.

“I did not even bother asking him who among the cousins,” Tagle added in jest.

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  • Atawid

    …………the 56-year-old de facto primate of the Church…….
    There must be some problem with PDI’s proof reading. I think primate is monkey, maybe it should be prelate.

    • GlenMJacob

      Sarcastic Tubeza

    • JV Velarde

      Primate (pronounced /ˈpraɪˌmeɪt/) is a title or rank bestowed on some bishops in certain Christian churches. Depending on the particular tradition, it can denote either jurisdictional authority (title of authority) or ceremonial precedence (title of honour).

      • Atawid

        Thanks for that insight however, the writer should have used a more common word which for ordinary Filipinos will understand. I believe filipinos can relate this word more to monkeys than to church leaders.

  • GlenMJacob

    I hope Tagle gets the message of the pope “god wants the Catholic Church the church of the poor not of the rich and influential”.

  • http://inquirer.net unokritiko

    A meaningful and very sarcastic message from their president in rome.
    What a shame to the catholic bishops congregation of the philippines!!!
    Better stick to teaching of god you bishops and review further your theology!!!
    Next time please stop mixing with this inutil govt at wag nang pasaring saring pa.
    Sus ginoo gid!!! Bacolod bishop wake up to this call!!!

  • regd

    Nope, more like from the maternity ward.

  • http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/ Lucky Luciano

    “Tagle, you must go to the Dagobah System “

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