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OVER SHOOTING OF TAIWANESE FISHING BOAT

De Lima confirms recommendation to file charges vs PCG

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Taiwanese fisherman Hung Shih-cheng’s boat, the Kuang Ta Hsing No. 28, is checked by Taiwanese officers after arriving at Liuqiu port in Pingtung County, southern Taiwan, Saturday, May 11, 2013. Taiwanese boat owner Steven Liao said the damage to the Guang Ta Hsin 28 costs around NT$8 million (P11 million). AP PHOTO

MANILA, Philippines—Justice Secretary Leila de Lima has confirmed a recommendation to press charges against some members of the Philippine Coast Guard involved in the shooting incident off Batanes that killed a Taiwanese fisherman.

“I confirm that the NBI has recommended the filing of charges against the PCG personnel involved in the incident,” Justice Secretary Leila De Lima said in a text message to INQUIRER.net. The Justice chief is currently in Madrid, Spain to attend the 5th World Congress Against Death Penalty.

De Lima said criminal and administrative case will be filed against PCG personnel.

No Taiwan pressure

She, however, clarified that the findings of the Philippine government was not influenced nor a product of pressure from Taiwan.

“There was no influence from Taiwan side. [But] hopefully, the conclusions from both side would jibe or are not that different,” De Lima further said.

De Lima, however, declined to give details on what charges will be filed pending clearance from President Benigno Aquino III who already was furnished a copy of the NBI’s findings.

Objective evaluation of evidence

“It is for his consideration and therefore we should give him freehand,” she said.

On whether the findings of the NBI are fair and acceptable to all, she said “there was an objective evaluation of evidence. As to whether it’s acceptable, then it remains to be seen.”

The NBI submitted to the Department of Justice its recommendation after they have completed their investigation on the incident that led to the death of Hung Shih-chen.

The NBI examined both the Coast Guard vessel as well as the Taiwanese vessel. They also have in their possession a video of the incident which was taken by the Coast Guard and testimonies of its personnel, among others.

The Coast Guard claimed it acted in self-defense when the Taiwanese vessel tried to ram its boat in the Balintang Channel.

The May 9 shooting prompted Taiwan to freeze the hiring of Filipino workers and discourage travel to the Philippines.

Aquino has apologized but Taiwan objected to his saying that the killing was unintentional.

A Philippine Daily Inquirer source, who has knowledge of the investigation of the incident but asked not to be identified because he has no authority to speak on the matter, declined to say whether murder or homicide charges had been recommended.

But the source said there was a debate on whether to bring murder charges against the coast guards, as “superior strength” was used “against an unarmed civilian,” or homicide, as the shooting death of fisherman Hung Shih-chen was “not premeditated.”

“It is a thin report, because the annexes have yet to be forwarded to [Secretary De Lima],” the source said.

The report, according to the source, includes the identities of the coast guards who fired their rifles at Hung’s fishing boat in waters off Balintang Island on May 9.

It also contains the name of the coastguardsman who fired the bullet that killed Hung, the source said.

The shooter was identified through a cross-match between the slug recovered from Hung’s body during autopsy and the signature of the coast guard’s M14 rifle.

The shooting happened in Philippine waters, as the Philippine Coast Guard stated in its report on the incident submitted to the NBI, the source said.

The source said the incident took place within 79.2 kilometers of Philippine territory and 316.8 km from Taiwanese territory.

No attempt to ram

But the Coast Guard’s claim that the fishing boat Guan Ta Hsin 28 tried to ram the coastal patrol vessel MCS-3001 was disproved, the source said.

The Coast Guard claimed that the fishing boat’s hostile move was the reason for its officers’ firing at the vessel, aiming for the engine to make it stop.

But the NBI report says the results of the ballistic tests and trajectory examination on the fishing boat showed the shooters did not know where the engine was, the source said. With a report from Nancy Carvajal


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  • yew_tan

    Death by hanging is the only acceptable verdict. Your Flip president should also apologize publicly in kneeling position, head bowed down to the ground then walk with his knees for one mile thereafter. The other option would be Flipland being erased off the map. Which would you rather have…. take a pick.

    • Shuami

      I, for one, don’t agree with your sentiment here. Such ultra-nationalistic and borderline chauvinistic view is how you lose sympathy even when justice is on your side.

    • KarlosRegaza

      You stinky Tae-wanis pretending to be a nation. You are a Chinese province full idiotss!

      Your stupidd Ma is a blabber!

      You destroyed your seas now STOP stealing other country’s resources!!

  • Garaybul

    May God bless the Philippines with its surrounding nations. Our God is always in control. We should not be worried and why should we as a nation. No matter what don’t give what’s belonged to the Filipino people.

    But give justice to what it deserves

    • StrategicSafe

      Were Those PCG firing bullets and killing the unarmed fisherman with smile against the will of God? God only bess those with kind heart and love. What is the 5th of the 10 commandments all the Christian need to follow?

      • Garaybul

        What did I say really? Anything, that’s opposing to your comment here,
        Wait till the justice say something first about this.

    • Garaybul

      But give justice to what it deserves.

    • PurpleDaisy13

      re: “Our God is always in control”

      If your God is in control, then your God was responsible for using the PCG criminals as evil instruments in shooting the unarmed boat and killing an unarmed civilian with a smile.

      And in that case, you have a lot to worry about Garaybul.

      • Garaybul

        I told you before… every bad thing is belonged to evil. Anything is this bracket if performs because the devil encouraged you to do it but wait the sense of guilt is lessening when you do it anything rather than pre-meditated one. For examples… If we’re talking about self-defense it is another thing. If we’re talking about the situation made me do it.

        But besides to all of these are going on in this world, God has power to stop it.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “I told you before… every bad thing is belonged to evil.”

        You told us before that everything belongs to God. God created everyone and everything and that people are not created from “nothing”, including Satan and all the devils.

        Are you going to change the rules and tell us now that Satan and all the devils were created from “nothing” just for your convenience?

        re: “But besides to all of these are going on in this world, God has power to stop it.”

        Apparently, your God did not want to use his power to stop the PCG Criminals from shooting the unarmed civilian. We all read that the Taiwanese civilian that was shot in the neck was a good man but your God permitted evil PCG Criminals take his life with a smile.

        Are you sure your God is good or do you not understand that your God created Satan, Devils, and your human nature to sin and commit evil so easily so he can fill the Lake of FIre, which he also created, upon your judgement day?

      • Garaybul

        No more free lesson for you PurpleDaisy13. Your common sense improves a lot but still only good for this world survival.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        Garaybul, this is the only World you will need for survival.

        Because under your rules upon judgement day, you will either be sent to Heaven for evermore or the Lake of Fire for eternity.

        Two Destinations of which you don’t realize offers “Immortality” like Gods.

        Another mistake the authors of your papers failed to consider.

      • Garaybul

        You are really making me laugh… No wonder why Satan and
        his devils followers got push out from heaven because of their attitude of reaction.

        I can only imagine him how far more badly than you.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “You are really making me laugh”

        Meanwhile, everyone else is laughing at you Garaybul.

        Your God who created everything and everyone also created Satan and his devil followers….and here you are being toyed with by your own God.

        hahahahahahahahaHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • Garaybul

        I have more than enough of your devilish and sarcastic
        comments about my God. May God forgive you because you don’t know what you are saying
        I am not answering you from now on and you don’t communicate with me anymore.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “May God forgive you”

        I don’t work for, serve, or worship your God fabricated by mortal human beings on paper 2000 years ago Garaybul, so there is no entity that exists that needs to grant me any forgiveness.

      • Garaybul

        No, I am not answering anymore.
        From now on…
        You full of garbage in your head.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        I’m sorry Garaybul, but for as long as you boast and show off that your God is the most powerful force in the world and creator of everyone and everything, then you better accept that your God ALSO CREATED SATAN, THE DEVIL, AND ALL EVIL in this World.

        That’s the garbage in your head that you refuse to accept and recognize Garaybul.

        Because if you did, it would be counter-productive and you would lose faith in the stories and cheap science fabricated by authors of your papers from the Middle East 2000 years ago.

      • Garaybul

        I will answer again for the sake of people reading our
        conversation. You said my English comprehension is bad. You are eating your words. Why did you not absorb when I said everything in this world is created by God? Satan is simply belonging to creatures just like you or everything in this universe. God is the author of goods and Satan is the source of bad. By saying this if you ever do something bad you are ignoring what the doctrine of being a good child of God. Therefore, you are adhering Satan policy. The more you do this bad thing the more you become far away from the light of God and you are now in the epicenter of darkness. I told you this before in different phrases What you are showing now and the rest of the people laughing at me are simply hinting me that you guys are in the place of epicenter of darkness.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        If you’re going to answer for the sake of people reading our conversation, why do you even bother to say that you’re not going to answer anymore Garaybul? Can you please make up your mind and stick with your plan?

        re: “God is the author of goods and Satan is the source of bad.”

        Okay Garaybul, lets go over this once again.

        You said that God is the creator of everything and that even I was not created from “nothing”.

        Then, it is also understood that Satan was not created from “nothing” nor were his Devils were created from “nothing”.

        Take your pick Garaybul….either..

        (a) Your God also created Satan.

        or

        (b) Satan created himself just like your God did. In other words, Satan is also a God. Thus, Satan is also just as powerful as your God. Satan has equal control over everything, and equal creation over everything, and has no end and no beginning like your God.

        If your God hates and is an enemy of Satan, then why doesn’t your God destroy Satan like he plans to destroy all of mankind and sinful people upon judgement day? Is it because your God cannot destroy another God, such as Satan, his most evil adversary and hated foe?

        Take your pick Garaybul…either one you pick defeats the purpose of your God.

        Just give up already Garaybul, your authors 2000 years ago whom you don’t even know and are not Filipino screwed up by fabricating and boasting your god on paper as being the most powerful in the entire universe [sic].

      • Garaybul

        We are circling around ending up in the same place. what do you want to know that don’t understand. If you understand then no sense of talking about.

        I answer you because of your tenacious. May be God wants me to share something to you but if you think you are teaching me just say it and I don’t want to know anything about what you know and how you dislike the documentaries created by Saints people 2000 years ago..

        I accidentally reading your comment and this is what you said
        If y=x and x=1 is simple to understand
        So I am giving you the same formula.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “what do you want to know that don’t understand.”

        Garaybul, don’t pretend you have all the answers because you don’t. You were not alive 2000 years ago, you’re not Jewish, you don’t live in the Middle East region, and didn’t write the papers that invented your God – you’re just a Filipino carrying on a religion that Spain imported during their invasion into your Austronesian lands so they could control “Indios” and your mind.

        Despite the supreme power of your God, you cannot even talk to him and get answers…you have to flip through pages in a book to make up your own answers when your God should be telling you directly about everything you want to know.

        re: “May be God wants me to share something to you”

        I believe your God wants you to share with me on how to turn sand into bread. Can you do that for us? We all want to have such magical capabilities.

        This way, I can give free bread to everyone hungry all around the world. If not, then forget your hocus-pocus magic tricks Garaybul…it’s all a scam.

      • Garaybul

        You don’t have the comprehension you were accusing me of lacking.I will ask you again what you want to know that you don’t know.

        What you have just said… Do you understand them all or you
        are in a questing game?

        Just because you can construct a good grammar is not enough
        you have to have the very important one which is the massages and making sure that it’s in senses form and well defined one and give example if it needs it.

        I am not pretending for anything. Sure I don’t know everything
        but If I don’t I will tell you. Therefore say what you want to know strictly from what we’ve been talking about.

      • H_A_B_A_G_A_T

        nonsense makipag usap sa 50 cent party.
        gaya ng sabi ng isang chinese itselt..
        ang problema sa mga chekwa naririnig ka nila
        pero di ka nila iintindihan.

      • Garaybul

        Tutuo ba ito. Ang hirap baka akalain nila laging tama sila eh. OK bro.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        “parehas ka lang…akala mo lagi tama ang biblia mo. samantala hindi ka naman jewish at pinoy ka”

        Christianity is not a religion derived from your Austronesian roots Garaybul. It was Spain who invaded your Austronesian land during the 1500s and conquered, killed, executed, raped, and enslaved your native ancestors then forced them to learn and accept Christianity so your native ancestors and the masses could be easier to control.

        That’s how your Austronesian lands were forced to be renamed Philippines, derived from his own name, King Philip II of Spain.

        And here you are perpetuating Spain’s evil wrongdoing among your own people Garaybul – mental and spiritual slavery.

      • ilikemac

        Amen!

      • Garaybul

        Don’t teach me about your humanly provisions. I only care for your people. Go on and group with people where you belong.
        But remember there is a season for every thing. You must stick for what is just. We are just visitors in this world for a while..

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Don’t teach me about your humanly provisions.”

        Are you ridiculing our human capacity because the authors of your pages 2000 years ago have now gotten you to believe that you are an immortal semi-God and is not from this world Garaybul?

        That’s what happens when you go over-board in your desperation for spiritual satisfaction.

        You need a major mental tune-up Garaybul.

      • Garaybul

        Can God create and preserve something without decaying for 4.5 billion years without power. And now you worried a little thing as you said here.

        If I can count from 1 to 1,000,000,000 why you are accusing me not to know how to add 2 + 2. In this sense you are really ridiculing yourself.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Can God create and preserve something without decaying for 4.5 billion years without power.”

        Garaybul, did you already forget to remain faithful to what your bible suggests? Earth is not 4.5 billion years old; you’ve already admitted and just as many christians agree that the bible suggests Earth is only 6,000 years old.

        If you want to debate in a civil manner, please remain consistent with your own understanding…no flip-flopping please Garaybul.

        re: “If I can count from 1 to 1,000,000,000″

        Unfortunately, even you COULD NOT count accurately from 1 to 1,000,000,000 (billion) Garaybul. It would take you more than 7 years non-stop before you would be done counting even at a rate of 4 counts per second.

        Do your math Garaybul: 1,000,000,000 / 60 / 60 / 24 / 365.

        And that formula doesn’t even factor in the time you need to sleep, eat, sh*t, and everything else you do in your life.

        The point about binary digital science is that, we humans figured it out for ourselves despite not being in your bible to help us. Why? Again, because the authors of your pages 2000 years ago were not sophisticated enough to even know how to use calculators and computers or even understand what a computer is and how to click a mouse button.

        Their level of modern science and technology is “zero”.

        Thus, even we know more than your authors that wrote your stories 2000 years ago.

      • Garaybul

        Placing all those stars is all pertaining to science and math with so many configurations.

        Creating those stars to begin with is called inventions.

        Tracing how it’d begun no one knows not even the top scientists in this world plus PurpleDaisy13

        But reading the bible will uncover everything systematically for you.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “But reading the bible will uncover everything systematically for you.”

        No Garaybul, reading your bible does nothing for modern scientists and modern man with respect to science and technology other than accept stars as nothing more than tiny insignificant lights placed in the sky.

        Please read what your authors 2000 years ago could only conclude about stars from their visual speculation:

        “God made two great lights–the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.” – Genesis 1:16.

        As you can see from this passage, the authors of the bible didn’t know what they were talking about. They had no idea that the Earth was round, nor did they have any clue that stars were actually Suns made of mostly hydrogen like “Greater lights” that are located across the galaxy from extremely far distances.

        If your authors knew what they were talking about and wanted to be more convincing, Genesis 1:16 should have been written along the lines as followed:

        “God made countless numbers of great lights in the universe–one very close to Earth and others millions to billions of light years away. He also made moons that are not great lights, but massive orbiting satellite planets that reflect the light from the closest great light. God did not allow the moon to only govern the night, but also allowed the moon to orbit the Earth to govern the day along with the Greater light. “ – Real Genesis 1:16.

        But did your authors know the truth about reality? No

        They even thought the Earth was FLAT like a piece of paper like a map that had 4 corners:

        “After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth,” – Revelations 7:1

        How could you continue to allow fabricated stories that include nonsense and false assumptions by your authors of the bible 2000 years ago deceive you Garaybul?

        With your knowledge of modern science, even YOU could create and write a better bible explaining how the world was created compared to a bunch of old guys 2000 years ago who don’t even have half the knowledge you have and the understanding of reality and the truth about our world and our galaxy Garaybul.

      • Garaybul

        No more free lesson for you PurpleDaisy13 after only something
        here got my attention

        All of your endeavoring here is showing nothing but opposing
        factors of your wrong philosophical and completely ignorant about what Our God can do. All along I have been telling you that He is author of all the things you are seeing in these universes, even the smallest particles within the vacuum
        and even the unseen like air as such in natures.

        God can do something to the extent of infinite on both opposing
        direction without an inch of laboring He just say it and His power will transpire the object(s) to its existence.

        Enough of your pretentious acts you just want free lesson but I have been telling all the same thing in different forms of explaining but the truth is all comes down to the POWER OF OUR GOD alone.

        I forgot to mention that I am happy for you… you are now reading the bible. I hope you continue on and save your life to live forever.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        Garaybull, there seems to be a major mind block in your brain.

        You boast so much about your God and yet you seem to evade and never question about who defined your God, who defined your god’s capabilities, who defined your god’s rules, expectations, rewards, and punishments.

        You seem to forget that all you are doing is regurgitating what your religious leaders feed your head without realizing that everything you are repeating came from pieces of paper written by mortal human beings 2000 years ago, and not from a real immortal god speaking through the clouds in the sky so we can all witness and record with our smartphones the real truth for ourselves.

        Ironically, you’re not teaching me much. Apparently, I’ve explored more verses in the bible than you long before you thought you were the reason for me to read your bible Garaybul.

        Did it not already occur to you that I seem to be well prepared and well ahead of your own understanding of your duties to serve and obey your god from paper?

      • Garaybul

        I am just telling it like it is. I am no hypocrite. The truth is you are not smarter that I am and that is for sure.

        If you think you can understand the bible better than me
        then you show me first.

        Then I will agree with you that you smarter than me.
        But until then I don’t think so.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “I am just telling it like it is. I am no hypocrite. The truth is you are not smarter that I am and that is for sure.”

        Of course you are a hypocrite Garaybul.

        You consistently refuse to avoid the underlying foundation of the source of the writings of your paper Garaybul.

        Can you answer the following simple questions?

        (a) Who wrote Genesis?

        (b) Give us at least 3 proofs of evidence that proves the writer had direct communication with an immortal and supreme being:

        1.__________________
        2.__________________
        3.__________________

        Because if you can’t provide even one single proof of evidence, then no one has to read the bible to prove that they are smarter than you….they already are for your lack of authenticating your sources of nonsense Garaybul.

      • Garaybul

        Who wroteGenesis?

        Answer:
        The Lord Jesus Himself and the Gospel writers said that the Law was given by Moses (Mark 10:3; Luke 24:27; John
        1:17), and the uniform tradition of the Jewish scribes and early Christian fathers, and the conclusion of conservative scholars to the present day, is that Genesis was written by Moses.

        (b) Give us
        at least 3 proofs of evidence that proves the writer had direct communication
        with an immortal and supreme being:

        Because if you can’t provide even one single proof of evidence, then no one has to read the bible to prove that they are smarter than you….they already are for your lack of authenticating your sources of nonsense.l.

        Here it is
        one answer:

        If you watched Moses movie, Moses history was recorded in Egypt museum somewhere that this stories was truly happened with its government authenticity that Moses communicated with God during Moses time.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “The Lord Jesus Himself and the Gospel writers said that the Law was given by Moses (Mark 10:3; Luke 24:27; John
        1:17)”

        That is an invalid answer Garaybul. We didn’t ask who wrote the Laws, we asked who wrote the pages of Genesis.

        Mark 10:3, Luke 24:27, and John 1:17 are all passages that do not say “Moses wrote Genesis”.

        Let’s try this again Garaybul…

        (a) Who wrote Genesis?

        re: “If you watched Moses movie, Moses history was recorded in Egypt museum somewhere that this stories was truly happened”

        Again, invalid answer Garaybul.

        Movies are not a legitimate source of evidence Garaybul.

        Since when did attorneys begin using movies as exhibits of evidence Garaybul? So since the Movie Superman was released, it means a man with a cape can really fly and really exists? No

        We don’t care what Egyptian museums say about what they think is true, we are asking for “evidence” that proves the writer of Genesis had direct communication with an immortal and supreme being.

        Can you please provide real “evidence” that proves the writer of Genesis had direct communication with an immortal and supreme being Garaybul?

        Because if you can’t, then your entire foundation of your belief is standing on absolute “make-believe” by a bunch of old folks from the Middle East 2,000 years ago whom you don’t even know that “claim” to have spoken with an immortal and supreme being but can easily be dismissed as nothing but a mere crazy old fraud stoned off a fat roll of potent weed Garaybul.

      • Garaybul

        re: “there seems to be a major mind block in your brain”

        Just for fun… Let’s prove which one of us has the metal block.

        Here is it…

        I agree that the following folktale is known around the world and I never get to hear a very convincing answer. We would declare our opinions and see which one is better.

        Here it is…
        WHICH ONE WAS EXISTED FIRST EGG or CHICKEN?

        You would give your opinion first since you think you are
        smarter than me.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “WHICH ONE WAS EXISTED FIRST EGG or CHICKEN?”

        My answer is neither the Egg or Chicken, my answer is YTBD as in “Yet to be Determined”.

        What is your answer Garaybul?

      • Garaybul

        re: “WHICH ONE WAS EXISTED FIRST EGG or CHICKEN?”

        My answer is neither the Egg or Chicken, my answer is YTBD as in “Yet to be Determined”.

        What is your answer?”

        Every riposte I provided to you is improper when you can
        even response to my first question.

        I’m not responding anymore until I find you are serious or competent to recognize between right or wrong answer.

        Try to answer this if you still unable then allow me to just
        thank you for your times. I appreciate it, really do.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        Garaybul, I already answered your question which is YTBD.

        Why would you care to disagree with my answer if you have your own answer which is either “EGG” or “CHICKEN” Garaybul?

        Reveal and defend your answer to prove how smart you are Garaybul. And I shall stay loyal to defend the answer I have already confessed.

        If you refuse to provide an answer, then you are dishonorable for inviting me to answer the question first, then bailing out even after I’ve submitted my answer Garaybul.

        Thus, you practice deception which is another reason why your God shall not save you Garaybul:

        “Therefore, rid yourselves of every kind of evil and deception, hypocrisy, jealousy, and every kind of slander. Like newborn babies, thirst for the pure milk of the word so that by it you may grow in your salvation.” – 1 Peter 2:1

        Everyone here shall read and take note of your hidden nature that you have now demonstrated and disqualifies you for salvation Garaybul.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        Garaybul, we don’t need to live forever.

        Only someone who lacks humbleness, fears from dying like yourself needs to live forever and would be desperate enough to be a slave in exchange for immortality. Sound familiar? Your making a deal with the devil.

        Accept the short and wonderful life you already hav and nothing more. The word Greed means nothing to a self-proclaimed man of god like yourself Garaybul.

      • Garaybul

        This life here is just too short…

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “This life here is just too short..”

        That’s why you will not be saved. You’re GREEDY Garaybul.

        Your god meant for your mortal life to be limited and here you are complaining that it is too short? See what happens when you don’t read the ENTIRE bible Garaybul? You miss many many parts of what your god expects from you in order to qualify for his reward for obeying:

        “Then the LORD said, ‘My Spirit will not put up with humans for such a long time, for they are only mortal flesh. In the future, their normal lifespan will be no more than 120 years.’” – Genesis 6:3

        And will greedy people like you inherit the kingdom of god? No

        “You can be sure that no immoral, impure, or greedy person will inherit the Kingdom of Christ and of God. For a greedy person is an idolater, worshiping the things of this world” – Ephesians 5:5

        Just give up Garaybul, had I not told you this…you would have already been headed straight for the lake of fire because of your sinful thoughts despite self-proclaiming that you’re a man of god.

        And just because I have corrected you with your sin under this simple aspect of your god’s laws, it doesn’t mean you are now guaranteed to live forever either. There are many other aspects under your god’s laws that you have likely failed because you’re meant to end up in the lake of fire Garaybul.

      • paitoon717

        you are the one who need a mental tune-up. There was a professor who ask the students; “can u see God, the students replied no, then the professor said, then there is no God. The students retorted, Sir can u see your brain? the professor said, no and the students said then u have no brain. God has been there even before this world exists. Just look at the beautiful stars at night and u will know that there is someone up there who created all these things. Evolution theory is harder to beleve than to believe in a God who created all things. The planets staying in their orbits year in and year out is enough proof that there is a God who controls all these things.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “There was a professor who ask the students”

        Yes, I have read that dumb ad paitoon717.

        Have you heard the continuation of that class discussion? It went like this…

        “Sir can u see your brain? the professor said, no and the students said then u have no brain.” The professor laughed and replied, “if I didn’t have a brain, then MRI scans would prove that and that I wouldn’t have the capacity to teach this class and give you all failing grades. Correct?”. The students cried “Correct Sir. Please forgive us for we had been brainwashed Sir.”

        re: “Just look at the beautiful stars at night and u will know that there is someone up there who created all these things.”

        The beautiful stars is not your god paitoon717. Prove your god exists by telling us the source of your information…

        (a) Who wrote the pages of Genesis paitoon717?

        and

        (b) What proof do you have that the writer of Genesis communicated directly with a supreme being.

        Because if you fail to answer these questions, then everything you know about your god is just a fabrication by mortal beings 2000 years ago paitoon717.

        Anyone can define a god’s powers paitoon717, but that doesn’t mean it’s true.

        re: “Evolution theory is harder to beleve than to believe in a God who created all things.”

        If your God created all things, then your god created Satan, the devil, and the entire forces of evil. All of which your god hates the most….now does creating something you hate make any sense paitoon717? No, it’s a mistake your authors of your bible did not account for.

        re: “The planets staying in their orbits year in and year out is enough proof that there is a God who controls all these things.”

        How do you know god controls these things paitoon717? Please tell us your source and proof of evidence.

      • paitoon717

        hahaha, u are good in adding something to the story, thats forgery hehehe.
        I did not say that the beautiful stars is my God but I am just saying that they are a proof that there is a God. The beautiful and permanent arrangement of the universe is a proof that there is Someone greater than u and me. God did not create Satan but God created the beautiful angel Lucifer but he became Satan because of his rebellion to God. If God does not control the orbits of the planets they should have gone astray long time ago and great destruction would have happen. They are there staying on course because God is in control

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “the universe is a proof that there is Someone greater than u and me.”

        Now, I will agree with you on that. But not necessarily “Someone”, because it could be “Something”. What you will learn from me is that you “CANNOT” instantly attribute “your god” to everything….it’s very boastful, unscientific, cheap, lazy, and reckless Paitoon717.

        re: “God did not create Satan but God created the beautiful angel Lucifer but he became Satan because of his rebellion to God.”

        Paitoon717, your god already knew his creation, Lucifer would become Satan and would rebel. Are you now trying to deny your god’s power to see the future, control the future, and decide whether to permit such future shall be pursued or changed?

        If your god doesn’t want Lucifer to rebel, your god can change such event at his discretion. But if your god decides such future of having Satan exist and allow him to be rebellious is pleasing, than your god shall allow Satan to exist and allow evil and temptation to become your enemy for his entertainment Paitoon717.

        Why are you having trouble understanding your god’s choice to create and control good and evil?

        Despite your god’s knowledge of the future for man to naturally sin over and over, didn’t your god already flood, kill, and wipe out every man, woman, child, and living creature on Earth during the time of Noah except for those on Noah’s arc?

        Thus, your god created Satan, the Devils, and the nature of Evil so that you may be tested and join them in the lake of fire Paitoon717. It gives your god reason to flood, kill, and wipe out every man, woman, children, and creature on Earth.

        Why would your god create the Lake of Fire if he cannot fill it with you and other people there who are likely to sin? Your god has already planned and threatened to terrorize, destroy, kill, and wipe out every man, woman, children, and living creature on the day of judgement, correct? Yes

        re: ” If God does not control the orbits of the planets they should have gone astray long time ago and great destruction would have happen.”

        Again, where is your proof of evidence that your “god” created the orbits of the planets Paitoon717? How do you know it wasn’t created by another god, that of which isn’t your god?

        Do you get my point? You need EVIDENCE to show that it was “your god” that created and did everything. Other supreme beings could have been responsible for controlling orbits..and not “your god”, Paitoon717.

      • paitoon717

        God sees everything but he never mess up with the free will. God created Lucifer as a beautiful angel but he choose to rebel against God and became Satan. God wants Lucifer to be there but if he chooses to be bad then its his choice and God never intervene in that. Thats what we called free will, understand. hahaha, other supreme beings? then he must be God also

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “hahaha, other supreme beings? then he must be God also”

        Wrong.

        Other supreme beings does not include your god Paitoon717. In fact, your god commands you not to worship other gods.

        Your god is not the only supreme being, Didn’t you know that?

      • $8705409

        ano yung 50 cent party?

      • ilikemac

        God has nothing to do with this criminal act.

      • paitoon717

        God is in control but at the same time God respect the free will of man. Its just that simple. God provide the right way to life and happiness but if man choose the other way then God will not intervene because God respect the choice of that man

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “God is in control but at the same time God respect the free will of man.”

        Your god wants to destroy the entire world and every man, woman, children, and life in this world….and here you are trying to boast that your god respects the free will of man? Please…

        If so, then tell your god to stop threatening to destroy the world on judgement day and just let people sin on their own free will as they please.

        Ooooops, you can’t do that…because you don’t have a “Democracy” with your god. He runs a Communist Sole Dictatorship whereby he gives you commands for you to obey or else you shall be punished and shall not be saved paitoon717.

        Just give up paitoon717, NO MAN has “Free Will” with your god. It is inherently denied with a god in which your authors have fabricated to have the ability to see in the future, control the future, and create the future.

        You can’t win paitoon717, you’re brainwashed by dumb old men from the Middle East 2,000 years ago.

      • paitoon717

        Judgement day is not threatening people but its there because it will surely come to pass. Man’s free will is working but they suffer they consequences in their own doings if not all of those that are doing bad is hit by lightning already. You might not believe that there is judgement day, but if there is, where will u be?

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Judgement day is not threatening people but its there because it will surely come to pass.”

        Paitoon717, Judgement Day is a “serious Threat” to mankind.

        Your god does not have to do this and it does not surely have to come to pass. But if your god chooses to be a terrorist against his creations in which he already knew from the future in that many would “sin”, then your god is simply sick and twisted.

        re: “Man’s free will is working but they suffer they consequences in their own doings if not all of those that are doing bad is hit by lightning already.”

        Wrong.

        Man has no free will when you are created by your god who designed “your will”, knows the “future of your will”, and can choose to intervene or permit your will, as designed, to be fulfilled. You think you have “free will”, but you don’t.

        You must be having trouble understanding this Paitoon717.

        Let’s give you an example. If you had the power to see in the future and knew that your mother would commit adultery, would you intervene in her life to prevent the event from occurring if you had the power to change her destiny?

        re: “You might not believe that there is judgement day, but if there is, where will u be?”

        I don’t care about a judgement day Paitoon717. If I die, I die…I don’t need a reward nor do I care about a punishment if I’m already dead.

        Is that how you have become brainwashed Paitoon717…You fear Judgment Day and are coward of being cast into to the Lake of Fire?

        hhahahaahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAA

      • paitoon717

        hahahaha, u really have a twisted understanding about God God love His creation but if His creation chooses to be bad then he does not intervene and they suffer the consequences of their own doings. Its those who have chosen to rebel against God who are twisted and sick in their minds. Of course, I have free will; I can choose to believe in God or deny or rebel against Him. God can choose to intervene but He never intervene because He respects the free will of man. God sees the future that many will be going to hell thats why he sends evangelists, teachers, missionaries to warn people about the peril but if man chooses to be hard headed like u, then God does not intervene because u are warned already. U don’t believe in judegement day and its ur choice but I tell u there is no man in hell that are not repenting of their hard headedness but its too late already. U still have the chance if u open your heart while u are still living.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “God sees the future that many will be going to hell thats why he sends evangelists, teachers, missionaries to warn people about the peril but if man chooses to be hard headed like u, then God does not intervene because u are warned already.”

        Why does your god need to send people to hell or heaven Paitoon717? Why doesn’t he simply not intervene at all and let us die without rewards or punishment?

        Because it is the only way your Authors could control their followers by imposing a sense of FEAR and fabricating an imaginary PRISON to elevate the level of FEAR.

        Take a look at nature Paitoon717. If I build an ant farm, would punishing or rewarding the ants whether or not they did something good or bad be worthwhile? No

        Because it doesn’t matter. Thus, your god should have no business in bothering with a Judgment Day against mere mortals Paitoon717 living in a tiny container. But since your Authors were the ones who designed your god, then they had to fabricate a god who had nothing better to do but torture and terrorize organisms living in a tiny container on some day of judgment.

        re: “U don’t believe in judegement day and its ur choice but I tell u there is no man in hell that are not repenting of their hard headedness but its too late already.”

        I guess, I’ll have to educate you about the facts of science too Paitoon717.

        Why are you so afraid of hell Paitoon717?

      • paitoon717

        Hmmm, As I said God never sends people to hell but its the choice of man that sends them to hell. If they choose to be bad inspite of the warnings and go to hell then they only have themselves to blame. about the ants, if I say the tiny ants in danger and I want to warn them, I have to become an ant to be understood by the ants. Thats just exactly what Jesus did. Man is in peril and hopeless so He came down from heaven and became a man so that His message of love can be unerstood by man. hahaha, u don’t have to educate me about science, I think I know better than u by claiming that the center of the earth is solid, and I am not afraid of hell. I obey God because I love Him and not because of the fear of hell.

    • $8705409

      I agree God is in control. But,we, the people of nations are not. Otherwise, there would be lasting peace in this world.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “I agree God is in control. But,we, the people of nations are not.”

        You’ve just contradicted yourself with back-to-back sentences.

        You can’t say your God is in control, then deny that your God does not have control over “people of nations.”

        If your God wanted lasting peace in this world, even “people of nations” could not deny your God’s wants.

        Please get your logic in order Prangka.

      • H_A_B_A_G_A_T

        Wahahah buhay kapa pala.
        ang tagal mo nawala.
        nagkakalat ka ulit ng KASINUNGALINGAN
        dat ang kapal ng mukha mo

        nung kainitan ng Panatag shoal
        me nalalaman kapa na ang China ang mag fifile sa ITLOS
        at di gagawin ng pinas na mag file sa ITLOS.

        Bat nwala ka nung nag file ang Pinas sa ITLOS????
        tapos ang bansa mo ng mga chekwa bigla nangigiit na usap nalang hahahaha

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Bat nwala ka nung nag file ang Pinas sa ITLOS????”

        Forget ITLOS habagat.

        There’s nothing more you can do now that China has exercised effective occupation and jurisdiction over Huangyan Island (Panatag).

        Philippines President ordered all Philippine ships to withdraw and now China moves in….what more can you say habagat?

      • H_A_B_A_G_A_T

        Why we will forget Panatag issue.

        ITs a wakeup call for the Pilipinos.

        It clearly shows how Deceiving China is!

        We gave the other country a light on how China behave.

        We loose Panatag shoal for now…. But after ITLOS case
        it will be shame to China as all their claimed will be questioned.

      • $8705409

        I am talking of two different realms here. The one that God is in control is not the same realm of where the nations have their free will to exercise, albeit mostly erroneous. Peace is not in this realm where we argue our points. So it is not a contradiction. Besides you can not apply logic on spiritual wisdom. The best can be done to understand it is to find analogy that best describes it. Jesus, used parables. The Buddhist had this “as above, so below”. These are meaningless to a logical person or any persons who merely sought answers by pure logic alone. In our realm it is logic that rules. So to your mind I was contradicting myself and to yourself feeling logical and superior.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “The one that God is in control is not the same realm of where the
        nations have their free will to exercise, albeit mostly erroneous.”

        It doesn’t matter what realm you’re talking about Prangka. According to Garaybul and every christian, your God created everything, including every realm you could ever know.

        Considering your fact that your God also has the power to go and see into the future under any realm, your God has absolute control over what he shall allow to happen and what he shall deny from happening.

        Thus, your God allowed the evil PCG criminals to shoot the unarmed civilian in the neck.

        If your God did not want the PCG criminals to shoot the unarmed civilian, then your God would have changed the nature of events from allowing such violence to occur.

        Do you have any objections to this logic Prangka?

      • $8705409

        I see no point of arguing with you. Garaybul and other christian have their own set of belief. But instead of arguing let me encourage you to meditate on the Lotus in the pond. Hopefully, you’ll find your inner peace.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “I see no point of arguing with you.”

        You’re right Prangka.

        There’s no point in arguing with me since you have no objections and agree that your God designed and permitted the PCG criminals to shoot the unarmed Taiwanese civilian.

      • $8705409

        Your are the reason. You just shot down my answer about the realms so you could conveniently force your belief to our throat and continue to lambast “your God” insinuating either He’s partly blamed for inaction or simply doesn’t exist. “It doesn’t matter what realm you’re talking about Prangka”,
        for you, yes. for me of course it matters. This is why there’s no point of arguing because we speak on different premises. and it’s turning the whole chat into ugly exchanges of two different believers.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “so you could conveniently force your belief to our throat”

        Prangka, forcing a belief down your throat is what Spain already did to you.

        In reality, I am forcing you to cleanse your mind of the mental poison you are enslaving yourself with.

        Christianity is not a religion derived from your Austronesian roots Prangka. It was Spain who invaded your Austronesian land during the 1500s and conquered, killed, executed, raped, and enslaved your native ancestors then forced them to learn and accept Christianity so your native ancestors and the masses could be easier to control.

        That’s how your Austronesian lands were forced to be renamed Philippines, derived from his own name, King Philip II of Spain.

        And here you are perpetuating Spain’s evil wrongdoing among your own people Prangka – mental and spiritual slavery.

        re: “This is why there’s no point of arguing because we speak on different premises.”

        That’s the point Prangka, you need to defend your premise. Because as far as everyone is concerned, you talk about other realms as if they exist and that you have been there.

        When in fact, you have no proof, no evidence, and neither do the authors of your papers 2000 years ago.

        Your premise stands on a foundation based on human imagination, then you fabricate your own rules to satisfy your creation so that you can market your invention to everyone as if it is “reality” Prangka.

      • $8705409

        This is where you are so wrong and judgmental. And just who do you think you are savoring on your messianic complex? First off, you have concluded on my religious affiliation on what ground? Where is your proof that I am a Christian? What makes you think that your superior logical mind is flawless and everyone is beneath you especially when discourses touch on subject not on your grasp and expertise? I respect your belief on not believing as much as I gave my respect to those believers. I have never imposed my belief on Garaybul nor have I argued with it because of different premise. But here you are the person who hates the conquestadores is the same person who practices it. Totoo nga ang kasabihang “ang magnanakaw ay galit sa kapwang magnanakaw”. And by the way, your flawless conclusion is wrong. I am not a Christian nor affiliated to any religious denomination. Goodbye and peace be with you always. Or should I say maybe to your likings “may the force be with you” or ” may the odds be ever in your favor”. I am sorry just don’t know if you are agnostic or atheist. Just pick the line that caters your taste.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “First off, you have concluded on my religious affiliation on what ground? Where is your proof that I am a Christian?”

        Because you are Filipino Prangka. And the majority of Filipinos are Christians while you have also expressed that you believe God is in control:

        I agree God is in control. But,we, the people of nations are not. Otherwise, there would be lasting peace in this world.

        Aren’t you the one who wrote the above just earlier Prangka? Yes, you did.

        Are you going to try to weasel out of this one and deny your mentality of Christian affiliation now Prangka?

        And now that you can’t challenge my logic, you want to abandon your faith by saying:

        I am not a Christian nor affiliated to any religious denomination.

        hahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

        Come’on Prangka, you are a former business owner. You should know how to provide better customer service than flat out flip-flopping like a corrupt salesman.

      • $8705409

        Oh I see, to your logical but flawed conclusion just because I professed of something religious in nature that would automatically mean Christian? You’re screwed.

        And That because majority of the Filipino are Christians that makes me a Christian? Again you’re screwed. What happen to the minority? Or even to the minority of the minorities? Few facets were considered that make up your logical mind tends to conjure something to make out the missing one and arrive to a conclusion of lies and/or belief. So what makes you again different to those who believe in the book written 2k years ago? Again ” ang magnanakaw ay galit sa kapwang magnanakaw”. You’re screwed. :(

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “And That because majority of the Filipino are Christians that makes me a Christian?”

        Prangka, you are a Filipino and you’ve also admitted to the following statement:

        “I agree God is in control. But,we, the people of nations are not. Otherwise, there would be lasting peace in this world.” – Prangka

        Only a christian like yourself would admit to such belief and to defend Garaybul.

        You are what they call a “closet-Christian.” Most likely, your birth certificate says that you are a Roman Catholic or Christian, and yet you may have chosen for whatever reasons not to attend mass or worship services as required on a weekly basis Prangka.

      • $8705409

        Everything you said above is based on conjectures. At least this time you don’t force it as a statement of truth. Sorry to say, not even close to “closet-Christian”. Agreeing does not necessarily mean defending. Respect to one’s belief is not defending. Parallel coincidence on one belief of Omnipotence is not necessarily Christian. Do you honestly think belief in God is confined only on Christianity, let alone all the religions of the world? Are you saying if by chance I happen to agree with you in one of your blogs on religious matters that I am an atheist or agnostic like you? I agree logic is a very powerful tool when used properly. But you must understand even the most logical person, assuming it’s you, does not hold all the answers and assume the title like a king to belittle the answer of someone like Garaybul just because his answers lean on some religious dogmatic virtues that you personally abhorred so much. I am sorry to say matalino ka sana pero wala sa lugar ang tiwala mo sa sarili. And I noticed you keep on saying Filipino? Di ka ba Filipino? Kung Filipino ka and I follow your logic that majority of Filipino are Christians ibig sabihin ay Christian ka o katulad mo ako belonging to the minority?

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Everything you said above is based on conjectures.”

        False.

        Again, what we know about you so far is based on what you have already admitted to all of us Prangka. There is no need for conjectures here unless you admit to lying to us about certain statements that you have already published as being untrue.

        You already said to us “I agree God is in control. But,we, the people of nations are not. Otherwise, there would be lasting peace in this world.”

        This clarifies to everyone that you believe in a God that has control.

        However, you go on to say “The one that God is in control is not the same realm of where the nations have their free will to exercise, albeit mostly erroneous.”

        Thus, you had deceived Garaybul from the very beginning, because your God doesn’t seem to even have control of the world and realm in which Garaybul believes was responsible for creating and that we are most concerned about Prangka.

        Why didn’t you just come clean and say…“God is not control of this world and this realm. We, the people of nations are. Otherwise, if God were in control of this realm, there would be lasting peace in this world.”

        Who is this God you believe in Prangka? Zeus, or perhaps, Odin?

        re: “But you must understand even the most logical person, assuming it’s you, does not hold all the answers and assume the title like a king to belittle the answer of someone like Garaybul just because his answers lean on some religious dogmatic virtues that you personally abhorred so much.”

        Unfortunately your false accusations are baseless as I have never admitted to having and holding all the answers to every question Prangka.

        In fact, a logical person does not use the excuse of “God” as the answer for every question that cannot be explained.

        So if you believe that your God has control of other realms, why don’t you tell us when, where, and how you have discovered this realm that is filled with peace and is controlled and managed by the God you believe in Prangka.

        We are all curious to learn more about your God and the evidence that supports your belief Prangka.

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      • paitoon717

        Heaven and hell are hell, If you want to see the reality of hell, I suggest u go to the center or core of the earth and u can see the reality of hell

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “If you want to see the reality of hell, I suggest u go to the center or core of the earth and u can see the reality of hell”

        The reality is that we currently don’t have the technology that can take anyone to the core of the Earth paitoon717.

        However, your suggestion seems to imply that you have been there and had witnessed such reality. Why don’t you tell us your stories of how you traveled to the center of the Earth and managed to come back to the surface without a scratch paitoon717.

        Or perhaps not, if you’re just full of sh*t.

      • paitoon717

        hahaha, there is no need to do that because we know it scientifically what is there in the center of the earth. Its just a burning lava, burning day and night just like what the bible says, the lake of fire that is burning day and night

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “there is no need to do that because we know it scientifically”

        Seeing with your own eyes always beats guessing scientifically.

        If you’ve never traveled to the center of the Earth, then your guess is as limited as the authors of your bible who thought stars were nothing more than just tiny lights in the sky.

        When in fact, they are enormous luminous spheres of plasma millions of light years away in outer space.

      • paitoon717

        hahaha, u should study science again especially the topic, core of the earth. have u been to high school, this topic is taught in high school or even elementary grades

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “u should study science again especially the topic, core of the earth.”

        Unfortunately for you, science does not support religious nonsense about hell and the lake of fire being in the center of the Earth. Science does not believe in Satan and your Devil paitoon717, don’t you know that?

        And if your high school taught you that the center of the Earth is liquid hot resembling a lake of fire, then you’re Wrong again. The center of the Earth is SOLID.

        You should have gone to a legitimate high school to learn real science paitoon717.

        Just give up paitoon717, you can’t use bible science for modern science. Your bible science is OBSOLETE.

        hahahhaahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHHA

      • paitoon717

        hahaha, what science are studying that the center of the earth is solid? hahahaha. For all u know Science and Religion are on the same sphere. They are in agreement in many issues. Haven’t u heard of many scientist coming to terms with God because there are many things that they can’t understand or explain. The bible is not obsolete. Its teaching of love is for man of all sexes and ages and for u too hehehe

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Haven’t u heard of many scientist coming to terms with God because there are many things that they can’t understand or explain.”

        Those are no longer scientists…those are people that fell into a mental break down from extreme stress or traumatic experiences in their lives, and have lost their marbles. As well as scientists that get paid by religious organizations, or brainwashed members trying to use science to promote their religious membership clubs. Take your pick.

        re: “Its teaching of love is for man of all sexes and ages and for u too hehehe”

        You mean your bible now permits homosexual intercourse? No

        Love between 2 men or 2 women can now marry in church? No

        Your bible doesn’t even give instructions on how to have proper sex in missionary or doggy style – Just give up Paitoon717, your love book is obsolete.

      • paitoon717

        hahaha, u have weird imaginations. those scientists are sound in their minds when they choose to believe in God because they have many things that they can’t understand or explain and see that God has the answers or is the answer of their needs. As I said man has free will so if u choose to be homos or what not, God does not intervene but again u have to suffer the consequences of your own doings. And for ur information there is already sex education in many churches. Why not try going to church sometimes so that u will not always be guessing.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “those scientists are sound in their minds when they choose to believe in God because they have many things that they can’t understand or explain and see that God has the answers or is the answer of their needs.”

        hahahahahahhahHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

        Only scientists who have been brainwashed believe that your god is the reason for something they cannot explain.

        That’s why I’m here to keep you from boasting about your god as being the answer for everything you don’t understand.

        Besides, you can’t even talk to your god to get answers…you have to flip through a bunch of pages that knows nothing about modern science, biology, and technology because your bible is 2000 years old and is obsolete.

        re: “As I said man has free will so if u choose to be homos or what not, God does not intervene but again u have to suffer the consequences of your own doings.”

        Let us teach you your bible Paitoon717…Again, Man has “NO FREE WILL”, why do you insist when even your god intervenes and punish those who engage in homosexuality:

        “What happened to Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities near them is an example for us of the punishment of eternal fire. The people of these cities suffered the same fate that God’s people and the angels did, because they committed sexual sins and engaged in homosexual activities.” – Jude 1:7

        So you don’t know what you’re talking about Paitoon717…I suggest you go back to bible studies so you can read all of the intervention and damage your god has done against mankind even prior to judgment day.

        re: “And for ur information there is already sex education in many churches.”

        For your information, churches do not teach missionary and doggystyle positions, nor do churches show you how to put on a condom. Please don’t lie here Paitoon717, it will not help you.

      • paitoon717

        don’t just talk but try to research about those scientist tht believe in God. U don’t know the difference of the old and new testament thats why u are just babbling things that u don’t understand. There is a great difference in the old and the new testament. In the old testament man is under the law but in the new testament man is under love. Thats why the greatest commandment in the new testament is Love God with all ur heart, mind and soul and love ur neighbor as urself. We are now in the dispensation of LOVE, Respect and Understanding one towards another

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “U don’t know the difference of the old and new testament thats why u are just babbling things that u don’t understand.”

        Old testament, new testament…makes no difference paitoon717. You use and refer to both whenever it is convenient as you believe in anything these Authors from the Middle East, whom you don’t even know, 2,000 years ago have written on paper.

        re: “In the old testament man is under the law but in the new testament man is under love.”

        Exactly, the Authors initially fabricated your god in the old testament as angry, cruel, jealous, petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

        By the time the Catholic church realized this, they reviewed a bunch of paperwork and selected the best to form the new testament to reflect a refurbished god with a complete 180 degree character transformation to brainwash you more effectively with the use of “love”.

        The problem is, you can’t just dump the old testament because you need the pages of Genesis to boast about how your Authors thought the world was created.

        re: “Thats why the greatest commandment in the new testament is Love God with all ur heart, mind and soul and love ur neighbor as urself.”

        Another problem your Authors thought was that the heart was responsible for the human emotion of “love”. Unfortunately, it is not…your heart is only designed to pump oxygenated blood throughout your body.

        Had your Authors knew what the heart was for because a supreme being told them beforehand, then you wouldn’t be here repeating the same false notion that your heart is responsible for the human emotion of love – just ask someone with an artificial heart Paitoon717, they can tell you how wrong your Authors are.

        Meanwhile, your Authors also fabricated the concept of a “soul”, when in fact, you have no means of even measuring the existence of one’s so-called soul Paitoon717.

        You believe in everything these unknown Authors wrote and yet you continue to fail to show us your evidence to prove that your Authors had direct communication with a supreme being.

      • paitoon717

        Oh man, u are really confused and I pity u; Of course, there is a big difference between the old and the new testament, even the time that it was written was a big difference already. u don’t realize it because u are blinded with ur strange theology. There is a big difference because there was a transition of how God manifested himself. In the old testament, the law is supreme and the one who transgress the law should die But in the new testament Love is supreme and became a way of life of the early believers until now. We value the old and the new testament because it is there that God manifested His love to mankind. And by the way when the bible speaks about the heart, it is not the physical human heart but the seat of emotions where every desires and feelings emanates. And talking about soul, I can explain it to u through example. When somebody slap at u, u feel the pain in ur body but when somebody speaks bad against u or curse u, u feel even more painful even though nobody touches your body. It is because the words u uttered are spirit which means cannot be touched and cannot be seen but u can feel it, the words u uttered is felt by and receive by the soul. Its just like a wind, u cannot see it but u can feel it.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “even the time that it was written was a big difference already”

        The time of when your Authors fabricated their works of inventing your gods is irrelevant paitoon717.

        The Authors of your paperwork all had one purpose in mind: Human brainwashing.

        First, you claim that your Authors invented the old testament to control people through spiritual laws, but due to it’s unpopular and harsh laws, your Authors decided to invent a new testament to control people through “love”.

        But the intention of their writings are still the same….to scam you into thinking their laws and love to control mankind are supreme, in effect, and enforceable.

        I’m sorry paitoon717, but your god simply doesn’t exist. Anyone can curse at your god day after day and no lightning bolt will ever strike them. Anyone can light your bible on fire and your god will never throw a spear from your so-called “heavens” in the sky to kill them.

        Because if your god did exist and is everywhere in all of his creations, such person cursing your god or burining your Author’s paperwork would have been eatened by worms by now.

        In your new testament of “love”, your god even murdered Herod, a lowly human being, for failing to praise your god. What more if a person curses at your god day after day or burns your bible paitoon717?

        “And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.” – Acts 12:23.

        re: “it is not the physical human heart but the seat of emotions where every desires and feelings emanates.”

        Again, Paitoon717, the human heart does not have a “seat” where emotions, desires, and feelings emanate. You must stop such nonsense Paitoon717, it is the year 2013, not 100 AD.

        Unfortunately for your Authors 2,000 years ago, they did not take classes in modern science and biology – they were too dumb to know that emotions, desires, and feelings originate from the brain and the mind, NOT from the heart.

        re: “When somebody slap at u, u feel the pain in ur body but when somebody speaks bad against u or curse u, u feel even more painful even though nobody touches your body.”

        Poor explanation paitton717.

        When someone speaks bad against you or curses you, your emotions in the form of neural networks and biological chemicals in you brain can trigger “anger” or “depression” causing mental pain, not pain against your so-called “soul”.

        If you curse or speak bad against a person with no emotions, does that mean you are causing pain against that person’s soul? No, because such person would be immune to mental offenses paitoon717.

        Thus, one’s emotion is not the same as one’s soul if you believe that every human being has a so-called “soul” destined for the kingdom of heaven or the lake of fire upon the day of judgment.

        re: “It is because the words u uttered are spirit which means cannot be touched and cannot be seen but u can feel it”

        Wrong.

        Words are not in any form of a spirit…please attend a Real Science Class paitoon717.

        Words uttered are visible in the form of sound waves….there is nothing “spiritual” about recording frequencies of vibrations in the air that can be measured through microphones paitoon717.

        What you misinterpret as “spirits” seems to be anything your naked eye cannot see, but feel. That means everything you “hear” is a spirit including the cars blasting rap music where you feel the base of their woofers pumping up the volume as mad “spirits”.

        You’re absolutely delusional paitoon717.

        hhahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

      • paitoon717

        the purpose is human brainwashing; hahaha what a delusion. The writer of the old testament are not brainshing but just telling a story which became part of the history of Israel. They are not just concocting it because even archaeologist have confirmed the location of those places mention in the bible.

        God simply doesn’t exist…. As I told u God respects the free will of man. He can do anything to curse God or burn the bible but God does not intervene because He respects their free will but surely they will suffer the consequences of their action in the fiery lake of fire when they die. And if u don’t repent u are going there too.

        I told u clearly that the bible is not talking about the physical human heart but the seat of emotions where every feelings and emotions emanates. You said its in the brain and I don’t deny that either. You tried to evade something when u cannot refute.

        chemicals in the brain triggers anger. I am not denying that. What I am emphasizing is a person feels more pain when someone lambasted him in words than hitting him physically. Its more painful to hear hurtful words because it is not only receive in the brain but it penetrates right to the core of your being which I called soul which is the real you. Your physical body is just an instrument given by God to the real YOU to come in contact with the physical world. And that real YOU does not die. When you die that real YOU will face God and there you will give an accounting of all that you have done on this planet

        Words are not in any form of spirit… you know what does spirit mean? the one that cannot be seen or touch. Modern instrument can record soundwaves but just the same u cannot touch those words being spoken because those are spirits and are not only recorded in your brain but penetrates to the deepest part of your being which is called soul

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “They are not just concocting it because even archaeologist have confirmed the location of those places mention in the bible.”

        Have you or anyone ever been to the Lake of Fire or the Kingdom of Heaven as your Authors always mention in their writings? No

        The writers of your pages want you to believe that there is a reward for you waiting when you die if you’ve been good, and a punishment waiting for you when you die if you’ve been bad in the eyes of your Author – That’s the fundamentals of brainwashing paitoon717. Everybody knows that.

        re: “He can do anything to curse God or burn the bible but God does not intervene because He respects their free will but surely they will suffer the consequences of their action in the fiery lake of fire when they die.”

        Wrong.

        Like your Author had already demonstrated, your god intervenes in the lives of mere mortals by murdering nearly 99.9% of humanity whether they sinned or not. Everyone knows your god murdered nearly 99.9% of humanity during the time of Noah paitoon717:

        “So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth.” – Genesis 6:13

        In other words, your god murdered men, women, children, and millions of other innocent mortal human beings who don’t even know your god, never seen your bible, and don’t know how to read Hebrew or Aramaic.

        Watch this wonderful youtube compilation of Noahs Ark (change commas to period):

        http://youtu,be/Mk1owD9y1hc

        So, does your god intervene in the “free will” of people when they do bad even while they are still alive paitoon717? Yes. Please stop lying to us paitoon717…that’s evil.

        re: “And if u don’t repent u are going there too.”

        Again, I don’t care about your Author’s threats because I am satisfied with the life I have lived and don’t need to be rewarded with your Author’s fabricated setup of an everlasting life and don’t fear any lake of fire your Authors threaten us with.

        Not everyone is a coward of fearing your god and your god’s threats fabricated by your Authors on paper…only you and your brainwashed members are paitoon717.

        Your Authors are simply trying to tempt us through our nature of “Greed” through a false and unproven reward of life eternal in order to control us. And you have fallen for their scam and have become brainwashed paitoon717.

        When we do bad things, and your god does nothing about it, the only worthless threat commonly used by god-fearing and brainwashed members like you is to say and invent a threat of consequences and punishment after I die. Who cares? I would be already be brain-dead anyway = no sense of touch, sight, hearing, feeling, and memory. Nada.

        That’s what your Authors failed to understand. Because your Authors were not smart enough and couldn’t attend modern science and biology classes paitoon717.

        re: “the bible is not talking about the physical human heart but the seat of emotions where every feelings and emotions emanates.”

        You’re taking us in circles paitoon717. Why do you say the “seat” of emotions as if there is a place in the heart that holds and controls emotions?

        Let us repeat the facts again paitoon717. The heart does not have a “seat” of emotions…your BRAIN holds and controls everyone’s “seat” of emotions. And since you agree with this, then there IS NO LOGIC in mentioning the HEART unless one believes the HEART holds a “seat” of emotions like your dumb Authors of your bible.

        It’s like saying, “the bible is not talking about the physical human finger but the seat of emotions where every feelings and emotions emanates.”

        If fingers don’t hold “seats” of emotions then there is no logic in mentioning the finger as if it holds and controls one’s emotions. Understand patioon717?

        re: “Its more painful to hear hurtful words because it is not only receive in the brain but it penetrates right to the core of your being which I called soul which is the real you.”

        Untrue.

        If someone hits your testicles or your eyeballs, does that hurt more than being lambasted? Yes, it does. If you are hit in the most fragile spot, you may even need to go to the hospital to get surgery which also hurts your wallet.

        Only weak minds like yourself would say words hurt more than being hit, but for the rest of us…

        “Sticks and stones will break my bones, but WORDS can never hurt me”

        If you are emotionally hurt to the core, then what has been harmed is your self-confidence and the level of how much you value yourself. Both of which are also stored in your BRAIN that requires neurons and dendrites that facilitate “memory”. Because if you forget how much self-confidence you have and how much you value yourself, then what mental core is there to hurt? Nothing, because you don’t even value yourself.

        Thus, anything stored in your brain is “physical” not some form of “spirit”. Do you understand paitoon717?

        re: “Your physical body is just an instrument given by God to the real YOU to come in contact with the physical world. And that real YOU does not die.”

        You’re being delusional and illogical paitoon717.

        Your god didn’t give me this body, my parents gave me this body through sexual intercourse and pregnancy. However, the instructions of DNA coming from both parents could have been created by other gods, highly intelligent entities of nature or advanced civilizations…it doesn’t mean your god has exclusive patents to our genetic make up paitoon717.

        Do we have markings somewhere that says “made by christian god”? No

        You have been brainwashed to believe that your god created everything. And yet, if humans today create a living creature by splicing and combining DNA or from scratch for the purpose of evil, then you would say, your god didn’t create that. Because anything created for the purpose of evil is not of your god’s doing.

        The fact is, we as humans have unlocked secrets that even your god would not have allowed. And that is our human capacity to become real semi-gods.

        Imagine if we could clone humans with the DNA perfect for a sinless life. Then if you believe your kingdom of heaven exists, mankind can “overpopulate” your god’s kingdom with all the good people for he can’t seem to provide for his own.

        Imagine if we could clone your brain structure, or put brains on life support so that it could be put into another body…we could essentially become semi-immortal beings.

        By this time, greedy people like yourself will not need to look forward to “life everlasting” in some false and unproven reward of heaven. You can just transfer your brain onto a new body.

        re: “And that real YOU does not die.”

        There is no such thing as the “real YOU” paitoon717, YOU is YOU, and the real YOU is still YOU. Get it?

        As a human being, you only learn to understand and recognize the “real YOU” because of the relationships and structures of neurons and dendrites in your brain that have developed over the years since your birth.

        Thus, there is NO SPIRIT or SOUL involved here paitoon717.

        The minute the relationships and structures of neurons and dendrites in your brain have been compromised or “brain-dead”, you SHALL LOSE COGNITIVE understanding and RECOGNITION of what is “YOU” and what is the “real YOU”. Understand paitoon717?

        In other words, just as your body is physical…your understanding of the “real YOU” and everything you know sits on a foundation of “physical” neurons, dendrites, chemicals, and electrical pulses.

        As a HUMAN BEING, YOU are PHYSICAL in EVERY ASPECT…from your Body, to your Thoughts, your Emotions, your Wisdom, your Intelligence, your Mind, your Memories, and YOUR HEART = ALL created and controlled by PHYSICAL means. Understand paitoon717?

        Here, read more about MODERN science and educate yourself with reality instead of false and obsolete assumptions made by your Authors who have been long dead 2,000 years ago:

        (replace comma with period):
        science,howstuffworks,com/life/inside-the-mind/human-brain/brain.htm

        re: “penetrates to the deepest part of your being which is called soul”

        Paitoon717, you don’t know what you’re talking about if all you’re going to do is contradict yourself.

        Here you say: “Words are not in any form of spirit”.

        Then you go on to deny claim in the next sentence with the following statement: ” those words being spoken because those are spirits.

        The fact is, you don’t know what a spirit is…even you have confused yourself paitoon717.

      • ilikemac

        Plz! Don’t mix religion with crime! Or you will be labeled a religious zealot at best; a religious fanatic or even a terrorist wannabe.

      • Garaybul

        This is what I meant when I said Our God is in control. I‘ll give you an example… In our house, we are in control. If we have visitor this visitor would be subject to that house rules. If visitor does something bad that is his fault not to the owner of the house. But no matter what we’re still in control in our house. By having said this, we’re the people have our freedom of choice.

      • ilikemac

        Congrats for the ‘twisted’ logic! It’s perfectly clear now.

      • Garaybul

        Your perception in life is just good in this world but not good for life after this life.. Think about it.
        Anyway, I was just endeavoring to help you guys to live in harmony and not to have greedy attitude if it’s not yours. Just don’t be so opportunist.
        But yet we must obey the rules.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Your perception in life is just good in this world but not good for life after this life..”

        Just because the authors of your papers 2000 years ago assumed that an after life would follow after we die, what evidence do they have to prove an after life even exists? What evidence do they have that an after life follows after another after life and so on does NOT exist?

        They were wrong about assuming Earth was flat with just 4 corners like a piece of paper on a map, so why would you believe them about an after life follows our death and that being “good” from their “cultural” perspective of what is “good” is required in such after life Garaybul. Think about it:

        “After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth,” – Revelation 7:1

      • Garaybul

        I’m sorry PurpleDaisy13…

        To be honest with you all these theologian experts are having
        different opinions when they are interpreting the Revelation and be honest with you I have never read this part of the Bible. I tried but I cannot understand it. You cannot use your literal understanding here. It’s all about symbolizing to
        mean different thing.

        For example re: “They were wrong about assuming Earth was
        flat with just 4 corners like a piece of paper on a map”.

        What they are saying here is that I don’t know if I am
        right. They are implying that four angels would be standing in the four corners of the world just like the four corners of the table flat to bestow the punishment the world deserved because of their sins against their God.

        Revelation is about the time of the past, present and future,
        when the judgment day is right by the door. But before this happen the anti-Christ will rule the Earth and the abomination through the land is just common scene. That is when God would say enough-is-enough.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        I’m sorry Garaybul, but admitting that you have ignored this passage suggests that you’ve overlooked many passages because you are relying on so-called experts to read and interpret basic words for you.

        If you come here boasting about your holy book so i could understand your god and his spiritual laws only to tell me later that i need experts to interpret the passages for me, then dont you see how ridiculous your advise and book of laws would be?

        Let’s face the facts Garaybul. You are far more advanced and knowledgeable about our spherical world than the bunch of old amateurs who wrote your papers of Revelation that believed our world had corners like a flat table.

        Afterall, Christopher Columbus had not even been born yet.

      • Garaybul

        You are wrong but…

        You don’t have to know everything in the Bible; you just follow the Ten Commandments of God and if you do this you are save. If I am a priest or pastor then it is different story.

        Yes, It could be understood but you have to read the entire Bible before you understand it well.

        If you really want to understand the Revelation read the
        PROPHECIES of DANIEL. In this chapter of Daniel you will be exposed to this kind of symbolic meaning of what in the Revelations but really it is still hard.

        You know I have developed a program about sophisticated one before and the revelation is far harder to understand in comparison of both.

        I guess if I really try hard but you must be in devotion level before everything in your brain start absorbing the complexity of the whole concept of what in there for you to know.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “You don’t have to know everything in the Bible; you just follow the Ten Commandments of God if you do this you are save. If I am a priest or pastor then it is different story.”

        Many Christians would disagree with you Garaybul. Even within your own multiple variations of Christian denominations, many will tell you that there is more than just following your 10 commandments in order to be rewarded your god’s promise for salvation and eternal life in the kingdom of heaven.

        And by limiting yourself to the full understanding of your bible, YOU WILL NOT BE SAVED because you are not in the true church. Despite being all of you being “christians”, you all argue and belittle one another about who has the best interpretation of the same book that a bunch of dumb old people wrote 2000 years ago.

        Like I said before Garaybul, even YOU can be far more knowledgeable, well capable, and qualified to rewrite the bible using today’s collective and vast information of our world today through modern science and technology, not obsolete science, technology, and imaginations that your authors were limited to 2000 years ago,

        You are just as human as they were but more refined and many years advanced.

        re: “I guess if I really try hard but you must be in devotion level before everything in your brain start absorbing the complexity of the whole concept of what in there for you to know.”

        Garaybul, if you are not anywhere near “devotion” level, then forget it..you won’t be saved either.

        If you want to be saved, “rewrite” your own bible and implement qualifications that make more sense and guarantee a better chance in being “saved” so you will not have to fear your death as a coward.

      • Garaybul

        Wrong again…

        I just feel that I am saved just following His commandments. I watch myself not to deviate from the doctrine of my religion.
        I respect the existence of any creatures on earth and I’m not a perverted person.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “I just feel that I am saved just following His commandments.”

        I’m sorry Garaybul, but you shall not be saved for being greedy no matter how you feel. You think you’re following his commandments, but you’re not even paying attention to what will disqualify you from entering the kingdom of god:

        “You can be sure that no immoral, impure, or greedy person will inherit the Kingdom of Christ and of God. For a greedy person is an idolater, worshiping the things of this world” – Ephesians 5:5

        The only reason why you want to follow his commandments is because you don’t want to die and want to be rewarded and live forever = greed

        Thus, there shall be no salvation for you Garaybul.

      • paitoon717

        hahaha, four corners means it covers the whole earth. it has nothing to do with spherical or flatness of the earth.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        Apparently paitoon717, you were not very good in algebra class.

        4 corners suggest edges that have a 90 degree bend identical to squares and rectangles.

        If authors of your bible had been informed by a a real god and fully aware that the Earth was round, they would described anything covering the entire earth as “the full circumference” or “360 degrees”; not “4 corners”.

        Unfortunately, Christopher Columbus was not yet born to educate your dumb old authors from the Middle East 200 years ago paitoon717.

      • paitoon717

        The bible never consider the earth as flat. As I said when the bible says four corners that just means it covers everything not the shape of the earth. It is simile or just a form of speech. I can even say to u now, wow this news covers the four corners of the earth and it doesn’t mean to say that I believe that the earth is flat, get it? hahaha

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “The bible never consider the earth as flat. ”

        Stop protecting the dumb authors of your bible paitoon717.

        How could your authors know that the world was round? Did they sail around the world before Christopher Columbus did? No

        Have you ever held the edges of a flat piece of paper and shook the crumbs off Paitoon717? If not, well your authors figured it could be done with the flat Earth:

        “so that it could grab the earth by its edges and shake wicked people out of it?” – Job 38:13

        Just give up already Paitoon717, you keep trying to defend the authors of your bible when in fact, they failed you from the very beginning.

        Imagine that, getting rid of the wicked off the Earth simply by holding the edge of the Earth like paper and shaking it vigorously.

        hhahahahahahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • paitoon717

        can u not understand simile. Its just a form of speech and there is no scientific about it regarding the shape of the earth

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “can u not understand simile. Its just a form of speech and there is no scientific about it regarding the shape of the earth”

        Just give up Paitoon717. Everybody knows that the authors of your bible thought the world had 4 corners like a piece of paper.

        Everybody knows that the authors of your bible thought the world had edges like a piece of paper.

        Everybody knows that the authors of your bible thought the ends of the earth could be held like a piece of paper.

        Everybody knows that the authors of your bible thought the Earth was FLAT.

        And if the authors of your bible thought the Earth was round, then please explain how your Authors knew this.

        Did your Authors travel around the world on a sailboat? What was the name of this boat and how did they survive with limited water and food Paitoon717?

        Did your Authors have direct communication with your god who provided a spaceship so they could fly the world rount-trip? Where is your evidence and proof of this Paitoon717?

      • paitoon717

        hahahaha, everybody knows but why I didn’t know that. Nobody told them that the earth is round but its a direct revelation from God. The prophets of old has direct communication with God. They don’t have to travel on sailboats to know that because God is the source of their information. The Spirit of God reveals to them the secrets and mysteries of the universe

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “Nobody told them that the earth is round but its a direct revelation from God.”

        What is your proof of evidence to prove that the Authors of your bible had direct communication from a Supreme Being Paitoon717.

        re: “The prophets of old has direct communication with God.”

        We don’t want to know the stories your Authors wrote in their paperwork Paitoon717.

        We want to know, What is your proof of evidence to prove that the Authors of your bible had direct communication from a Supreme Being Paitoon717.

        re: “They don’t have to travel on sailboats to know that because God is the source of their information.”

        When did this Supreme Being talk to your Author Paitoon717?

        re: “The Spirit of God reveals to them the secrets and mysteries of the universe”

        Please try to avoid proclamations of nonsense….especially when your Authors didn’t even know that there was more than our planet that was created.

        There were billions of planets created and your Authors only knew of the one they lived in, Earth…..this implies that your Authors of your paperwork are mere scam artists.

      • paitoon717

        hahaha, u really have to believe in God to understand all these things. U wont understand what is going on in a family if u are not a member of the family. How about if I will tell u that until this time God is still communicating with His people. We hear his inner voice in our spirits. But really u will not understand all these things. Come to church and join and u will understand all these things.

      • PurpleDaisy13

        re: “How about if I will tell u that until this time God is still communicating with His people. We hear his inner voice in our spirits.”

        You cannot communicate with your god paitoon717.

        Those inner voices you hear are likely to be from evil origin. You have no means of authenticating whom you are hearing paitoon717. If not evil, then they’re the result of brain damage you have inflicted upon your poor desperate mind.

      • paitoon717

        hahaha, u are becoming wild in ur imagination; if u hear the devils voice the result is u become bad and worst than before but if u here God’s voice, ur life is completely change, old things of sin and vices are gone and behold all things are now new. We got a brand new life

  • H_A_B_A_G_A_T

    Filing charges on PCG invole is one thing.
    and Sovereignty and territorial water is another thing
    and undebatable that it is well within on PH water.

    P.S. the taiwanese boat are not totally unarmed.
    Their captain is armed with STUPIDITY, GREED and ARROGANCE.
    Its plane and simple… 2 boats, only one suffer gunshot.
    why? because the other boat submit.
    you don’t insult or do anything stupid to a policeman who’s gun is pointed at you!

    • KarlosRegaza

      Si Delimna ang ang gawing cost guard!

    • kanoy

      AND SENTENCING SOMEONE TO DEATH FOR ENTERING RP WATERS OR POACHING IS ANOTHER THING

      AND

      SENTENCING SOMEONE TO DEATH FOR ENTERING RP WATERS OR POACHING WITHOUT A TRIAL IS YET ANOTHER THING

      >>you don’t insult or do anything stupid to a policeman who’s gun is pointed at you!

      YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WISH SUCH AS CALL THE COPS MAMA A GOAT SCREAM EVERY CURSE WORD YOU WANT OR JUMP UP AND DOWN AND MASTURBATE AS LONG AS YOU ARE NOT ARMED OR APPROACH HIM IN A THREATENING MANNER HE CAN STICK THAT GUN UP HIS AZZ BUT HE CAN NOT SHOOT WITHOUT FACING THE CONSEQUENCES ALL SHOOTINGS ARE INVESTIGATED COPS GOT STRICT RULES CONCERNING SHOOTING AND WHEN THEY CAN AND CAN NOT USE DEADLY FORCE

      AS FAR AS YOU ARE CONCERNED IF YOUR SON WAS CAUGHT SHOPLIFTING THE SECURITY GUARD HAS THE RIGHT TO SHOOT HIM SINCE A COP IS A COP AND A CRIME IS A CRIME AS YOU WOULD SAY ”THEY ARE ONLY DOING THEIR JOB PROTECTING SOVEREIGN STORE PROPERTY BYE BYE SON”

      • ilikemac

        CHAUVINISM?

      • paitoon717

        Please note that the death of the old Taiwanese man was purely accidental. The PCG just want to disable the engine, did u get it?

  • Niccolo Machiavelli

    File and forget.

  • KarlosRegaza

    Asus ka Delimna!!

    Ikaw kaya ang mag Coast Guard! Para mo na ring sinabi na itapon ang mga baril ng mga Coast Guard!

    Tanong: Sino pa ang CG na mangangahas depensahan teritoryo natin kung kakasuhan mo lang naman?!!!! Kaistupido!

  • sigena

    ayos ah. pasyal si baboy sa madrid at mag shopping using taxpayer’s money

  • ilikemac

    May I remind you of that disgruntled policeman who shot eight HK tourists? And his relatives/friends even draped his coffin with the national flag!

    • H_A_B_A_G_A_T

      May I remind you that incident is nothing to do with this incident?
      does it ever cross on your narrow mind?
      And May I remind you that incident are not something Pinoy are happy or proud about?
      And May I remind you that flag was put by local person and not by the national government.
      And May I remind you how a hongkong vessel killed by ramming the Filipino fisherman boat as if nothing.

  • paitoon717

    This is real stupidity; Charging the soldiers who are just doing their duty is real stupidity. If the government will push through with this case then the whole nation should protest. These soldiers are there sacrificing lives and families just so that we can live in peace and now these government is charging them. Stupidity in the highest degree indeed. Isama iyan minsan si De Lima sa PCG patrols para maranasan niya ang kahirapan na dinadanas ng mga PCG. Sa alon pa lang cgurado magsusuka na iyan.



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