All demands of armed Filipino group were rejected, says Sabah police chief


Malaysia’s General Operations Force officers stand guard near Kampung Tanduo in Lahad Datu, Malaysia’s eastern Sabah state, Friday, Feb. 15, 2013. Sabah Police Commissioner Hamza Taib has dismissed reports that some of the armed Filipinos had slipped past a tight security cordon mounted by a combined force of Malaysian police and military personnel. AP PHOTO/BERNAMA NEWS AGENCY

LAHAD DATU—Sabah Police Commissioner Hamza Taib has dismissed reports that some of the armed Filipinos had slipped past a tight security cordon mounted by a combined force of Malaysian police and military personnel.

“We know where they are and they are surrounded,” Hamza said on Sunday, adding that police were continuing their preparations for the deportation of the group holed up in a seaside village.

He said the group had agreed to go back on condition that its representatives were allowed to meet with certain Malaysian personalities.

Hamza said the group was also seeking recognition as the Royal Sultanate of Sulu Army, in addition to a promise that there would be no deportation of the Sulu community, which had been in Sabah for a long time, as a result of an ongoing Royal Commission of Inquiry on the state’s illegal immigrant problem.

All the demands were rejected, he said.

“We have told them this was the wrong platform and they will have to go back,” Hamza added.

Asked about the growing number of Malaysians who have expressed irritation about the situation through various online social network sites, he said: “We have to look at this from various perspectives.

“We are dealing with human beings. They are not militants and they came because of certain demands. If they come here as militants such as the Abu Sayyaf Group, our approach would have been different.

“Most of the people from southern Philippines are also related to the people in Sabah,” he said.

On Philippine media reports quoting Sultan Jamalul Kiram III as telling his brother, Rajah Mudah Agbimuddin Kiram, to stay put at Kampung Tanduo, Hamza said “that was his personal opinion.”

He noted that while Kiram was recognized by the Philippine government as sultan of Sulu, the people of Sulu crowned Jamalul’s kin, Ismail Kiram, as their sultan.—Ruben Sario, The Star/Asia News Network

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  • Hong Wee Cheah

    We, Malaysians are NOT interested in what your King is claiming now or the historical spins behind it. YOU decided to sell-out Sabah hundreds of years ago and you got played out by the Spanish and the British. Well, that is YOUR f*cking problem between you and them. Blame it on yourself. We have declared our own independence and have since outgrown ourselves since the 1960s from your imaginary “kingdom” and we intend to stay this way. We have our own lives to live and we have enough of our own problems to deal with. Malaysian government has been too kind enough to issue free citizenship to immigrants from neighboring countries especially  Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand…etc for many-many years without prejudice. We never close our doors to brothers and sisters who wanted to make a better living in our country. Get your papers right, (perhaps some bribe money) and you can get your ICs fairly easy. Hell, we even give your children birth certificates and give them proper education. But, if you show up with guns and weapons and expect us to have a peace-talk session with your stinking pirates & thugs…? you are out of line, pal! Way out of line! So our advice to you is, pack your guns and go back to where you belong and learn how to ask us politely. If you want to re-claim Sabah, COME AND GET IT…… we will never hand it back to you, without a fight.

    Malaysian Citizen

    • Pinoy_Reich

       I’m surprise Chinese can actually fight.

    • Juan

      i  think what really happen is that the north Philippines might influence the mind of some officials in suluans to claim something on Sabah. Suluans/Sabah and Malaysian are at peace all day everyday with no problems and now we have this problems? Sounds fishy must be money involve or something else. My apologies to the citizen of Malaysian for the kataranduhan behavior of the filipinos

    • Jose

      Then why not just settle it through arbitration, if you think you have valid claim on it?

      And that’s coming from a Filipino who DOESN’T want Sabah back.

      • nivrams

         It’s not whether we have valid claims on it. It’s whether the Sabahan population wants it or not. If the Malaysian government agrees to go to ICJ, it will be viewed as an act of treason by the population of Sabah and a violation of the Malaysian Agreement 1963.

        Sabahans, under the leadership of Donal Stephens and Tun Mustapha (a Tausug btw), declared independence in 1963 and decided to form the Federation of Malaysia together with Sarawak, Singapore and Malaya.

      • Raja Kumar

        You are talking to a brick wall these people don’t care about what’s right or democracy only supporting the claims of a few drunkard bandits so they can steal Sabahs wealth while Sabah has developed Mindanao is poor see the difference? Lol

    • Jojo

      wether you accept it or not the history written is speak for itself why dont  you read your history books ..and the best example of this sabah is like the west bank which is owned by palestine but occupied by israel now… are you like that rights???

    • NaUnsa

      Negotiation first, both parties agree to international court, UN decision, and finally both party agree on the final decision peacefully. Come and let’s get it to the international court of justice to prevent us from acting like a war-monger.

      • Raja Kumar

        What are you talking about? UN decision was made in the 1960’s when they granted Malaysia the territory based on the self determination of the people of Sabah which in those days was mostly the native population stop beating the same drum and ignoring historical fact UN made its decision no more time wasting tell the Kiram family to get their liquor money some other way

    • floydelyn

      is it possible malaysia is or used to also sponsor/fund rebellion/secessionist movements, smuggling arms into and training of marginalized groulps in thailand and indonesia? why? you are also sending their kids to school!!!  of course there has to be some cosmetic touch to all malaysia’s “greed” campaigns abroad. certainly your government will not publicize those criminal acts and definitely your government will make sure all that IC and Birth Cert and education stuff will find its way in all the papers.
      why did singapore pull out of your federation? why were you at war with indonesia? it looks like malaysia picked-up all those underhanded and deceitful ways of the british. ha? good dog ha. bad news for us your neighbors.
      have you visited the queen yet – in thief britain?

  • Albert Einstien

    the TRUTH is SULTAN doesnt NEED MALAYSIA….

    WORLD SCENARIO …intelligence agencies your eyes please…

    WITH the BETRAYAL of the IMPOTENT RP GOVT..sultan may CHOOSE to become a chinese citizen….

    WHAT if SULTAN become a CHINESE CITIZEN & SELL SABAH to CHINA for $ 500 billion can EASILY enforce their sales contract & EVICT ALL residents in SABAH…they can easily replace manpower & labor with their 1.4 billion warm bodies….and in fact china might name SULU SULTAN as governor of SABAH & eventually malaysia & RP…..

    CHINA with TRILLION of FC reserves can easily do that…china can easily recover the money from GAS & OIL and TOLL FEES for INT’L NAVIGATION…not to mention the LEGACY,PRIDE & HONOR that will accompany such success DEFEATING the ENEMY & INVASION without a SINGLE DROP of BLOOD ( sun tzu ) …the EXPANSION of their EMPIRE and consolidation of ASIA under them…..they can NOW park & dock ALL their submarnes & CARRIERS in sabah..they will make SCS their playground war games with RUSSIA…

    CHINA will then release it’s DASHING TERRITORY expanded from 9 to 27 DASH LINES …covering pacific & indian oceans….these will ALL happen because of the IMPOTENCE & BETRAYAL of RP govt..QUEEN of UK should intervene now….. & order malaysia to give SABAH to its RIGHTFUL OWNER the RP..

    this is a game for WORLD DOMINANCE….where RP( with IMPOTENT govt ) , SULU SULTANATE ( a BETRAYED royal orphan ) & MALAYSIA ( greedy neighbor ) are chess PAWNS…

    to WORLD INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES..ANALYZE & advice your govts carefully.. what i’m saying …it may HAPPEN….and it will shocked the world..calculate now before it’s too late… : > )UK & US should ORDER immediately MALAYSIA to RETURN SABAH to RP 50 years of LOOTING of resources is ENOUGH. & slavery of our people in sabah.. or else this seemingly TRIVIAL EVENT will snowball & ..will lead to the eventual CONSOLIDATION by CHINA of WHOLE ASIA…….

    DRAGON will RISE… time it may no longer silent & a peaceful rise…it may rise as true dragon spewing fireballs…. : > )

    SULTAN & his HEROIC PREATORIAN GUARDS will be VERY HAPPY to read this POST…..sultan you can ADOPT filipino geniuses … : > )

    TO STAY in SABAH…It’s a WIN-WIN situation for the PATRIOTIC SULTANATE ARMY…if they die FIGHTING they will be IMMORTAL HEROES ( 100 lapu-lapus, 100 rizals, & 100 sultan kudarats ..100 legends…it may be a PRETEXT & cause the OIC ,MUSLIM COUNTRIES, DEMOCRATIC countries & FILIPINOS to CONDEMNED & ABANDON malaysia ( a UK puppet ) ..and the ORIGINAL 100 will become 100 MILLION strong ARMY…if they survive by five years or less living in SABAH ….they may get SABAH & its resources on a silver platter..the world SUPERPOWERS will be BEGGING for them to accept it…. coz world economy will SUFFER a lot…or CHINA might BUY SABAH from them for $ 500 BILLION ….

    the TIDE is TURNING..KARMA is TAKING its course…

    SULTAN sir you can MAKE SABAH the PROMISED LAND & ENVY of the NEW WORLD…!!

    • Raja Kumar

      Keep dreaming the sultanate can’t even decide who its head is and can’t win independence from its occupiers you do realise the influence of Malaysia besides the deaths of a few armed bandits won’t affect Malaysia’s standings learn world politics before posting long winded foolery

  • opinyonlangpo

    The next step Malaysia will do will be sort of etchnic cleansing. They will deport some of the sulu community, kill some, jail some, relocate some until the true owners and inhabitants just fade away in history. Unfortunately, history will be rewritten too.

    • nivrams

       I can assure that will not happen. The Tausugs/Suluks are the most ardent supporter of the ruling government. Their leaders are part of the ruling elite, the most influential being Shafie Apdal, who is the vice president of UMNO, the ruling party in Malaysia.

      Kiram can’t even win a senatorship n the Phillipines.

      • opinyonlangpo

        You can’t count on Philippines to reclaim Sabah for you, if they wanted it they could have done it decades ago. I symphatize with your cause and hopefully Malaysia will realize that it is not their land after all. It belongs to the sultanate of Sulu.

      • Raja Kumar

        Actually it belongs to the people who decided long ago to join Malaysia an old defunct sultanate has no rights over it get over your strange historical ancient claims and move on to modern times the territory by the way was ceded to the British and within law they passed it onto the people who determined by a vote on self determination conducted under the auspices of the UN.
        The land belongs to Malaysia funny all talks of war are gone now the supporters of the defunct sultanate are talking about “hopefully” Malaysia will give up a territory that doesn’t want to join Sulu or Philippines,is it becuase the Malaysian armed forces are much better force than the AFP? Lol

  • NaUnsa

    The Malaysian government has the obligation to accede to the Sultan of Sulu’s earnest entreaty of an absolute moral standards for peace or agreement diplomacy. Forcing them to walk out empty handed without sending your own intermediary for peace negotiation first will lead to bloodshed and a never-ending onslaught on each side of territory. Killing must NOT be the last resort otherwise we’re still in the age of primitive civilization. You must adhere to the hearts of humanity, and shun the influence of the outside evil mind of a control freak.

  • Jojo

    the malaysian govt should talks to the heirs of the sabah sultanates to avoid any bloodshed…

  • NaUnsa

    Sabah demography consists of many ethnic groups, for example:
    1.Kadazan-Dusun, 2.Bruneian, 3.MalayMalay, 4.Kwijau, 5.Murut, 6.Bajau, 7.Illanun, 8.Lotud, 9.Rungus, 10.Tambanuo, 11.Dumpas, 12.Mangka’ak, 13.Orang Sungai, 14.Kedayan, 15.Bisaya, 16.Tidong, 17.Maragang, 18.Ida’an, 19.Minokok, 20.Rumanau, 21.Paitan, 22.Lun Bawang/Lun Dayeh, 23.Orang Cocos, 24.Suluk, 25.Sabah born Chinese (Malaysian) including mixed parentage with natives (Sino)

  • NaUnsa

    Other inhabitants:
    1.West Malaysian – Malay, Chinese, Indian
    2.Chinese – Hakka, Cantonese, Teochew, Hainanese
    3.Filipino – Chavacano, Visayan, Ilocano, Badjao, Iranun, Tausug/Suluk, Tagalog
    4.Indonesian – Bugis, Javanese, Ambonese, Banjarese, Torajan, Chinese Indonesian
    5.Indian – Punjabi, Tamil
    6.Sarawakian – Iban, Penan, Dayak, Orang Ulu, Melayu Sarawak, Sarawakian Chinese
    7.Pakistani – Pashtun
    8.Arab people – Hadhrami

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