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US neutral in Scarborough standoff but will help upgrade Philippine Navy


2+2 MEETING Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin, Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta face the media in Washington, D.C., on Monday.

WASHINGTON—The United States says it will help build the Philippines’ sea patrol capability but will not take sides in that nation’s standoff with China at a disputed shoal in the South China Sea.

The top diplomats and defense officials of the treaty allies held their first joint meeting on Monday and discussed the three-week standoff at Scarborough Shoal in the region which Manila calls West Philippine Sea.

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton reaffirmed US commitment to its mutual defense treaty with the Philippines, and to freedom of navigation and regional security. She reiterated support for a diplomatic resolution to territorial disputes.

A joint statement said they would cooperate on building the Philippines’ maritime security capabilities. The United States will transfer a second ship to the poorly equipped Philippine Navy this year.

Clinton later told reporters that the meeting of the two countries’ four key national security officials was “a testament to our shared commitment to write a new chapter” in their partnership.

She voiced concern about Scarborough Shoal, repeating that Washington does not take sides on competing sovereignty claims there but has a national interest in maintaining freedom of navigation as well as peace and stability.

“The United States supports a collaborative diplomatic process by all those involved for resolving the various disputes that they encounter,” she said. “We oppose the threat or use of force by any party to advance its claims.”

Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario and Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin appealed to their counterparts for help in building a “minimum credible defense.”

Painful but true

Del Rosario lamented how the international news media has accurately described the poor state of the Philippine armed forces.

“It sounds terribly painful for the Philippines, but more painful is the fact that this is true, and we only have ourselves to blame for it,” Del Rosario said candidly as Clinton and US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta listened across a table.

“For the Philippines to be minimally relied upon as a US regional partner … it therefore behooves us to resort to all possible means to build at the very least a most minimal credible defense posture,” Del Rosario said.

“On our own, we will do the best we can,” he said.

“Developing a minimum credible defense posture may however be hastened mainly through an enhancement of the activities we do together with our singular treaty and through a positive consideration of increased assistance that we seek at this time as well,” he said.

The two nations, which completed extensive war games earlier this month, are bound by a mutual defense treaty in which the United States has pledged to come to the aid of its weaker ally if it faces military aggression.

“We are concurrently seeking a higher level of assistance from other international partners,” Del Rosario added.

Credible defense

Gazmin alluded to tension with China over islands in the South China Sea as he called for the need to “intensify our mutual trust to uphold maritime security and the freedom of navigation.”

“We should be able to work together to build the Philippines minimum credible defense posture, especially in upholding maritime security,” Gazmin said.

The Philippines and China have been embroiled in a dispute at Scarborough Shoal, with both nations stationing vessels there for nearly three weeks to assert their sovereignty.

The Philippines says the area, which it calls Panatag Shoal, is its territory because it falls well within its 270-kilometer exclusive economic zone, as recognized by international law.

The Philippines has called for arbitration through the United Nations to end the dispute, but China has refused.

Legal approach

In a press conference after the talks, the Philippine officials stressed diplomacy when asked what aid they had sought from Washington to bolster Manila’s ability to patrol its waters and deter what they call intrusions.

“The assistance we have sought is to help us bring the case to international legal bodies so that the approach is the legal rules-based approach in resolving the issue in the South China Sea,” Gazmin said.

Positive result

In Manila, Peter Galvez, spokesperson of the Department of National Defense, said US affirmation of its treaty commitments with the Philippines was one of the significant results of the Washington talks.

“The outcome of the discussion was very positive. We have cleared the question, which is what we want to stress, that our alliance will really be effective, that they will honor the Mutual Defense Treaty (MDT),” Galvez told reporters in a phone interview Tuesday.

The department took no issue with the US stance not to take sides in the standoff.

“We do not want to reach the point where we will seek (assistance under) the MDT,” Galvez said.

Peaceful resolution

“We will continue with the diplomatic track. We stress that we will continue with the importance of a peaceful resolution of the territorial issue, for a rules-based resolution, so we will be forwarding it to the UN for resolution.”

“What we just want to stress the commitment of the US government on our MDT,” Galvez added. With reports from AFP, AP and Dona Z. Pazzibugan in Manila


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  • tra6Gpeche

    Filipinos should thank the US for at least promising to help build the Philippines’ sea patrol capability. Just don’t falsely anticipate or expect the US to fight the Communist Chinese in case a war between the Communist Chinese and Filipinos happens. The Filipinos should be ready to fight alone, just in case. The US, understandably, has its own interest which is always America’s priority.

  • Scarface316

    This would help but not enough, strong economy is the best, pls filipino voters be wise and safeguard the ballots para walang dayaan. Act nowPH, too long Filipinos have been poor. Magkaisa and discipline my kababayan and be smart, work hard and also innovation is one of the key to strongeconomy. I hope some of the comments here reach some of PH officials it’s time to take the right path, the path that’s made of principals that leads to character, this will make you proud one of these days, you not only helped your children but the whole future of entire Filipino race.

  • Scarface316

    Even if PH tries to buy as much weapons she can afford it’s no use, China will not invade Philippines, China knows better than that. China might try to fight small scale war but it will not invade PH. PH should just buy a little bit of hardware but focus more on economy. This stand off should have been handled In a different way, PH should’ve informed china about the fishermen in the area and come up with a peacefull way of dealing with the issue like letting each other fish in the disputed islands. China was waiting for the Philippines to make a mistake it was a chess game of diplomacy. PH govt should’ve been open minded about china’s proposals like joint dev and bilateral approach. The thing is PH can oppose the joint dev and bilateral approach Ina different way. Bringing the US is not a good idea, and calling on ASEAN to take a stand was also foolish, Philippines looked like an idiot by doing that. China sees It as PH is trying to get other nations to gang up on china, wrong moved by the Aquino admin, but hey who knows maybe there’s some side deals behind the scene so stay tuned people this issue is really a complicated one.

    • draculah

      your the one who is being fool! what you wanna do is to share your country to someone who got their own land! we have diff brain cells! we are not shallow thinkers! wake up! i guess your drunk. lolz pathetic.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Orville-B-Dave/100000939643880 Orville B Dave

    So neutral ang america?Sino ang uto-uto dito?PRACTICAL ANG AMERICA!Ang FNANCIAL Lifeline ng mga kano ay hawak na ng mga instsik;Trillions and usapan dito.PAMPALUBAG loob ang mga makukukuhang abuloy/tulong ng mga kano sa pinas,45 years old na mga barko de guirra na tinanggal pa ang mga advance paraphernalias nito bago ipamigay.Tsk tsk tsk,Hoy gising Pinas,maghanap na lang ng ibang makakatulong kung meron pa.

  • niceguy60

    Going to war with China is no brainer. Well loose. Magsumbong kay Uncle Sam, no way Jose. But we could show a little bit of democracy in action by supporting a peaceful massive demonstration in front of the Chinese embassy. No flag burning. No paint spraying. Just plackards denouncing their government move to send more ships to an area the Philippines considered our territory. We’re expert on people power movements anyway, so why not? Invite PNoys yellow army, the leftist groups, the women’s group, the rightist putchist groups, the reservist, the veterans, all people of all walks of life. Heck include the bystanders para me gamit naman sila. Be united at least for this one issue. Ten million Filipinos freely expressing their sentiment peacefully in front of the Chinese embassy. That will be awesome display of non communist way of life. It won’t go unnoticed by the world media. Yes we can do it because we live in a free society. Stop crying in front of uncle Sam like a cry baby. The US have their own problems to solve. We should stand by our own feet with or without arms nor support from other country. Who knows it might even precipitate to something new in China that could lead to changes in their governments policy towards the shoals. Wouldn’t it be nice what a peaceful action could lead to. No bullets fired, no missiles, no bomb. We know many people in China want to democratize but could not do so because of very tight control in their country. But we can. Filipinos are freedom loving people. We can lead by example.

  • eroldpinoy

    f…c..k..g americans!…let us not be used again by these suckers! they’re only playing with us. The real reason why they are pretending to be our friend is because they know the importance of the strategic location of the philippines in case of war in the pacific. ….our brothers fought for their wars, we were there when they needed us..vietnam war, korean war, iraq war. but what we get in return? nothing! they abandoned us in time of our needs! ..We are not asking america to go for war with china , but at least they should have shown their support by saying…”We are here to support the philippines and not.. we will not take side on the problem. B..u..l…s…t! americans are afraid to the military might of china. the most powerful in the world, as USA claims, are afraid to china…FUNNY!
    We are only being used by the americans, and we are being abuse. They left us in a fight because they will not gain anything in case they will fight for us. This is not the way to treat a friend and ally.
    It’s time to AFP modernization,we have great inventors, scientist,engineers, programmers etc, the government should start supporting these people financially and morally. Let us not continue to be abuse by the americans by buying their 45 yr old military equipment’s.

    • bahog_itlog

      Because the present American President has no war experience. Soldiers offer their lives for their fellow soldiers. 

    • Pinoy_Reich

      Instead of blaming the Americans let’s start blaming our politicians with mendicant mentality who in their retarded thinking thought that an alliance is like a Filipino extended family system where even your grandfather still have the burden to foot up the bill for his milking granddaughter.

      Any nationalistic comments from our “12 Magnificent” who proudly kick the Yank’s bases in the current dispute? Like urging the senate or congress to give extra importance in propping up our defense capability or denounce China’s gunboat diplomacy…I think none of them did that as far as I what I’ve read for the moment (perhaps too busy attending political meetings for the next election). Instead they keep on yakking against the American’s non-committal with our dispute with China and some of them are just too shy to admit they would rather opt for an easy capitulation with the aggressor.

      This is where our politicians had been good at, buck passing and blame finger pointing instead of doing something like upping up our defense budget say 5% of our GDP so that we may rely less on American’s help in our sad donation box. Geez, do we need to ask the Americans really even for a couple of rubber boats for our special forces? Are we that poor really as what our pork barrel vultures wants us to believe? C’mon…

    • niceguy60

      Let us not blame the Americans for being neutral on this. We in general as a society is at fault. Petty politics and drama preoccupied most of our leaders. But the most stupid thing of all is PNoy for putting us all in this situation. I feel this president has really done badly in the diplomatic front even insisting his relative to be the ambassador to China. To this date we do not have an ambassador to that country. But let us not kid ourselves, when push come to shove we will defend our territory. We will fight for our rights help or no help from outside. But we should also be mature enough to learn our mistakes and admit it. China is bad as it may look to our point of view but they are an economic and militarily powerful country that no one single country can ignore its clout. Their people are as hard working and as intelligent as any ordinary Filipino. It is their government that has hardened up to the situation because of our own governments mistakes.

  • bryza10

    If the Americans wont help us, then whats the use of having a close relationship with them? So they can give us their cast off equipments and 50 year old cutters?  We should just coddle up to the Chinese.  The next century will be an Asian Century, why dont we develop closer ties and relationships with our neighbors instead of running back and complaining to our old colonial masters.  Im all about nationalism and cultural pride, but the Chinese can do so much for us economically.  In an age where old allegiances are being eroded and new ones formed, the Philippines should look into joining the winning side. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YFXRRDRKGHWMCFX6XJWEBPDDNI religiously not

    Long live China!!!! We chinese will conquer you…Filipinos will be our servants…

    • niceguy60

      Please don’t rub the salt. It’s painful. ……no need to conquer. Chinese business has already conquered the country. Philippine military is no match to the Chinese. But watch out, Philippine military soldiers are good at coup-de-etat. Then Filipinos reward them putchist by voting them as senators during elections.

    • ikabod_bubwit

      sir nanaginip po kayo! gising na po sir! eto higop ka lugaw. slurp, slurp slurp. hehehehe…

    • http://twitter.com/elkapitan21 edgar

      thank you! may you awaken the giant in us. run your businesses in our country very well. put up more businesses and more of our people so that they can learn. anyway we will buy your businesses as soon as we recover and start to stand on our own.

      bear in mind that we are Filipinos and we own this land. you may want to ride with us.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/V2XODXCWPDDRBQSV2SN7IFORFA DengXioPing

    Expandjust look at pak1stan a somewhat poorer country which has only $2k per capita while the philippines has $4k per capita has four military academies as follows Pakistan Military Academy
    Pakistan Air Force Academy
    Pakistan Naval Academy
    Pakistan Maritime Academy
    Some other Professional and Technical Military Institutes:
    National Defence UniversityCommand and Staff CollegePAF Air War CollegePakistan Navy War CollegeMilitary College of EngineeringCollege of Electrical and Mechanical EngineeringArmy Medical CollegeMilitary College of SignalsCollege of Aeronautical EngineeringCollege of Flying TrainingPakistan Navy Engineering CollegePakistan began with virtually no military production capability. By 1951, Pakistan had created the Pakistan Ordnance Factory at Wah Cantonment, near Rawalpindi, to produce small arms, ammunition, and explosives. During the period of reliance on United States supply, there was little attention given to domestic production, but after the assistance cutoffs in 1965 and 1971, Pakistan relied on China’s help to expand its facilities, including the modernization of Wah. The Heavy Industries at Taxila was established in 1971 as an equipment rebuilding facility, followed in 1973 by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex at Kamra, north of Islamabad. The air force assembled Chinese F-6s and French Mirages; produced the Mushak trainer, which was based on the Swedish SAAB Safari; maintained radar and avionics equipment; after the success of Mushak the Super Mushak and Karakoram-8 Advance jet state-of-art training platform were made.
    The Ministry of Defence Production was created in September 1991 to promote and coordinate the patchwork of military production facilities that have developed since independence. The ministry also includes seven other specialized organizations devoted to research and development, production, and administration.The navy is supported mainly by a facility at the Karachi Shipyard, which has limited production capacity. In 1987 development of a submarine repair and rebuild facility at Port Qasim was begun. By early 2000, in a joint project with China led to the development of the JF-17 Thunder fighter and the Al-Khalid Tank. Pakistan also has taken major steps to becoming self sufficient in aircraft overhaul and modernization and tank and helicopter sales and in a transfer of technology with France led to the construction of the Agosta 90 B Submarine in the late 1990s and early 2000s.After the success of its major developments in the defence industry the Defence Export Promotion Organization (DEPO) was created to promote Pakistani defence equipment to the world by inviting major and small players to the International Defence Exhibition and Seminar, which is held biennially at the Karachi expo center. In recent reports, the defence exports were worth over $200 million USD in 2006 and growing annually.[41]Army
    Throughout the International Defence Exhibition and Seminar (IDEAS) at Karachi in November 2006, Pakistani firms have signed joint development, production and marketing agreements with defence firms from South Korea, France and Ukraine. These agreements include new reactive armor bricks, 155 mm artillery shells, and other developments in armor and land weaponry. These agreements all relate to the Pakistan Army’s AFFDP-2019 modernization program of its armor, artillery and infantry.
    Air Force
    Pakistan’s indigenous produced JF-17 Thunder. Pakistan plans to induct over 300 of these fighters.
    The Pakistan Air Force plans to retire several types of combat aircraft by 2019. Joint production and further development of the JF-17 Thunder light-weight multi-role fighter is ongoing and around 150 JF-17 are expected to be inducted by 2015, replacing all A-5C, F-7P, Mirage III and Mirage 5 fighter-bombers. The F-7PG will be replaced later and the JF-17 fleet may eventually be expanded to 300 aircraft.[42] Orders have been placed for at least 36 Chengdu J-10 fighters from China,[43] around 26 upgraded second-hand F-16AM/BM and at least 18 new-built F-16C/D Advanced Block 52. Two types of Airborne Early Warning & Control aircraft are to be introduced, 4 Saab 2000 Erieye AEW&C from Sweden and the ZDK-03, a Chinese AEW&C based on the Shaanxi Y-8F-600 cargo aircraft.[44] The Il-78 aerial refuelling tanker is to be inducted and will be capable of refuelling the JF-17 and J-10, 4 are to be acquired second-hand from Ukrainian surplus stocks. The fleet of Shenyang FT-5 and T-37 Tweet is being replaced by around 75 K-8 Karakorum intermediate (jet) training aircraft.[45]
    Navy
    Pakistan Navy Frigate PNS Shahjahan
    Mclanery (ASW) Class For Pakistan Navy
    PNS Babur
    In 2005 Pakistan ordered four F-22P light frigates from China in a deal worth $600mn. The first is expected to be commissioned 2009 and the remainder by 2013.[46] One of the frigates has already been completed and formally delivered to the navy, its formal induction in to the Pakistan Navy however, would take place at a later date. One of the F-22Ps will be built in the Karachi Shipyard. The F-22P is an improved version of the Type 053H3 Jiangwei II class light frigate, it has a displacement of at least 2500 tons.[47] The first F-22P will be called PNS Zulfiqar, and thus become the Zulfiqar Class.[46]
    Plans to procure 4 used frigates were dropped in favour of 4 new-built corvettes. According to Turkish press the Pakistan Navy is reportedly interested in procuring the Milgem class corvettes from Turkey. The frigate USS McInerney (FFG-8) with considerable anti-submarine warfare capability will be handed over in August 2010.[48]
    According to Jane’s IDEAS 2004 interview with former Pakistan Navy Chief ex-Admiral Kariumullah another four or so new frigates will be acquired. Kanwa Defence Review recently reported that the Pakistan Navy has shown recent interest in the Chinese Type 054 frigate.[49]
    In mid-2006 the Pakistan Navy announced its requirement of three new SSK attack submarines to replace the two Agosta-70 submarines and rebuild its fleet – after retiring the 4 Daphne class. French naval firm DCN offered its latest export design – the Marlin SSK – which is based on the Scorpene SSK, but also uses technology from the Barracuda nuclear attack submarine. The German firm HDW offered the U-214 SSK. Credible reports confirm that the Pakistan Navy has opted for the Gernman U-214′s which will be built in Pakistan and includes transfer of technology. According to Walter Frietag the contract has been finalised 95 percent.[50][51]
    Pakistan is also seeking to enhance its strategic strike capability by developing naval variants of the Babur cruise missile. The Babur cruise missile has a range of 700 km and is capable of using both conventional and nuclear warheads.[52] Future developments of Babur include capability of being launched from submarines, surface combatants as well as range extension from 500 km to 1000 km. The Airborne version of Babur, ‘RAAD’ has already been successfully tested.Tayong mga pinoy proven to be a knowledge technocrate we could the do the same

    • http://twitter.com/elkapitan21 edgar

       of course we can do the same. please bear in mind that we are a very young country. we cannot force everything. majority of our people seeks job for its existence. we are not yet into business. our leaders sometimes doesn’t understand how to run the country. our tax system both local and national are anti-businesses. our people and businesses are milking cows of the government. we are not yet into empowering our people to grow. survival mode pa lang tayo.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YFXRRDRKGHWMCFX6XJWEBPDDNI religiously not

    Okay, guys. I will be nice to you now. Phil. is a very beautiful country with many good God loving people. The only problem is, you are destroying your country. You have no respect for your environment and you keep on electing gov’t officials who does not even deserve to be a janitor there. Bato-bato sa langit. ang matatamaan ay huwag magalit. Look around you. Prime real estate are now owned by many non-Filipinos. Koreans, Japanese, australians, Europeans.. and oh… I almost forgot and mga mapanghing intsik..right. My heart actually bleeds for you. For Phil. is the only Christian country in the Asia..And Koreans are one of the most rude people in this planet, and they will own you. my question. Why are Filipinos so screwed up in their own land, and Filipinos overseas are very much successful? We are no more intelligent than you are..over there..There is a shipping co. in europe who will only hire Filipino seamen..Doesn’t that tell you something? Filipinos, seems to me, does not love their country. That’s my opinion. Gen. Garcia is a greencard holder while serving as a general in your arm forces.. Of all the men in uniform I know and met in Phil.. 99% are corrupt. I know one of your general when he retired accumulated about 1 billion pesos. Never deposited in a bank. Nasa maleta lang nakatago. I’ve seen those bills.. If every general has 50 million pesos na nakaw, multiply that by many how gen. you have there. And these are just the generals. How about your politicians, judges like Corona.. The info I have posted in this forum are actually true.. You don’t have to believe me. I don’t care. me isa diyan, kinkastigo ako…mali daw at tsimis lang..I think he is a military officer. Kaya, siguro tinatamaan. …China will not invade or occupy Phil. They are not stupid.But, they will take those Islands, because they desperately need them..Chinese own the Phil. Look at who owns the businesses there. By the way I am 1/4 chinese..I actually don’t like most of them..Why? We have always identified ourselves as Filipinos. In every chinese family, there is at least one Filipino servant. It’s a reverse status. Filipinos go to Hongkong, and  same thing happens. They are servant of chinese families..Wake up people..You are the owner of your country….thank you.

    • http://twitter.com/elkapitan21 edgar

       you’re right! there is wrong in the system. Filipinos are victims of its own. we are not a christian country. majority of us know Christ but don’t believe in his teachings. if we are a true christian country, we will be one of the most successful people in the world.

      majority are misinformed. false teachings? 

    • kelvin broughton

      ugh u got alot wrong buddy, Philippines is messed up because of the lack of education, the catholic church has alot of power over elections here and to mix religion with politics is wrong. the Bible is to teach us how to be a better person for ourselves and others while politics is to help the better of the population and economy , i think the percentage of poverty here is 30% and majority of them only have upto a 3-4th grade education , im not putting any1 down here due to class. But this country will take along time to get out of this cycle, on average the poor class have upto 3-5 kids whom they cant or can hardly afford to send to school, no education = to no growth.  

      Also with the whole Prime real estate issue, youve got that totally wrong. Whats wrong with foreigners buying property here or starting a business here? A big problem here that scares most investors is that they either have to be married to filipina to start a business or buy property here, or have to set a partnership with a filipino business man who will probably screw you over in the end, trust me it happens alot. Greed just seems to get to people here really easily. Im half filipino, and i love the country, but all i hear here is im “Proud to be pinoy” but in reality most people here would screw over their fellow pinoy to gain the upper hand and leave the others in a dumpster.



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