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16th day: 2 PH vessels, 2 China ships still at shoal

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Map showing the disputed areas in the West Philippine Sea (south China Sea), including the Spratlys Islands and Scarborough Shoal. AFP

Two Philippine vessels and two Chinese maritime surveillance ships were in the cluster of reefs and islands 220 kilometers west of Zambales on the 16th day of a standoff between Manila and Beijing over the potentially mineral rich area, officials said.

Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario told reporters there were also six Chinese and two Filipino fishing boats in the area, which Manila calls Panatag Shoal, or Scarborough Shoal in international maps.

Del Rosario said unidentified aircraft flew over the area—two around midnight and another at 1:25 a.m. but added that the situation was “normal” and that there had been no “monitored harassment from the Chinese vessels.”

A Philippine Coast Guard search and rescue vessel has been posted at Panatag since the standoff began on April 10 when  two Chinese vessels stopped the Philippine Navy from accosting Chinese fishing boats poaching marine life.

Del Rosario said that he and Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin planned to bring up the Panatag issue in a meeting in Washington on April 30 with US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta.

He also said that he would like to “maximize the benefits” that could be derived from the PH-US Mutual Defense Treaty. “This is a good time to do it.

‘Very constructive role’

Del Rosario said he was to meet with President Benigno Aquino III Friday to review the Philippine agenda in the Washington talks on “strategic alliance.”

He said that while the United States had taken a “very constructive role” on territorial claims by six nations, including the Philippines and China, on the Spratly islands, the Panatag issue was a “manifestation of a greater threat” to countries concerned about freedom of navigation in the key waterway.

“I think all nations should be carefully watching what’s happening there,” he said. “All, not just the Philippines, will ultimately be negatively affected if we do not take a stand.”

“If you take a good look, it appears to us that China wants to establish the rules,” he said.

Agree to disagree

On Beijing’s call not to “internationalize” the Scarborough Shoal issue, Del Rosario said “we are making efforts to solve it peacefully.”

“Let’s just say that we agree to disagree on that respect,” said Malacañang spokesperson Edwin Lacierda. He said the Philippines wanted to elevate the case to the International Court on the Law of the Sea.

Also on Thursday, unidentified hackers posted a Chinese flag on the website of the Department of Budget and Management in two attacks on Wednesday, according to Budget Secretary Florencio Abad.

In a statement, Abad said the DBM website was undergoing a security audit and “may be inaccessible until critical issues are resolved.’’

Traced to China

“Our initial findings show that all important data in the website have not been compromised, and we are taking additional measures to reinforce the security of our servers and prevent future attacks,’’ said Abad. He cautioned other government agencies against similar attacks.

The presidential website, Official Gazette (www.op.gov.ph) was also attacked last Sunday by networks traced to China. Just like the DBM website, the Palace website was jammed with many requests.

The attacks came as the Palace pleaded to both Filipinos and Chinese to stop attacking each other in cyber space amid the impasse at Panatag Shoal.


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Tags: Bajo de Masinloc , China , Diplomacy , Foreign affairs , International relations , Military , Panatag Shoal , Philippines , Scarborough Shoal , Scarborough Standoff

  • cycloneblurr

    As I am praying for the land of my birth, The Philippines, I would like to ask you to read and
    share my posting so that it can spread to many and bring international understanding to what is currently happening in this region of South East Asia.

    The Philippines and China are presently involved in a naval stand-off for the control of Scarborough Shoal.  Both countries have claims to these rocks and these claims are in competition with one another.  The Philippines has already invited China to take the matter to the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea (ITLOS) for a fair arbitration but China would not agree to it.  Settling this issue bilaterally, between a third-world country and an emerging if not already a superpower would not necessarily result to a fair resolution.

    It is comforting to know that I have found a good suggestion from an inspirational leader known
    internationally.  I take his words from a powerful speech and quote, “Since numerous Third World countries and people were able to achieve political independence through protracted truggle, certainly they will also be able, on this basis, to bring about through sustained struggle a thorough change in the international economic relations which are based on inequality, control and exploitation and thus create essential conditions for the independent development of their national economy by strengthening their unity and allying themselves with other countries subjected to superpower bullying as well as with the people of the whole world, including the people of the United States and the Soviet Union.”

    This inspirational leader that I have quoted above, has transformed his country from a third world status into an emerging superpower that she is now, is none other than Deng Xiaoping.  Towards the end of the same speech that he delivered on the 10th of April 1974 at the Special Session of the U.N. General Assembly he mentioned this ensuring words: “If one day China should change her colour and turn into a superpower, if she too should play the tyrant in the world, and everywhere subject others to her bullying, aggression and exploitation, the people of the world should identify her as social-imperialism, expose it, oppose it and work together with the Chinese people to overthrow it.”

    Please help us to expose and oppose China’s bullying of The Philippines.  Thank you and God bless.

    • Danidanado

       I wish I could “Like” your comment 100 times!  Very interesting!

      • cycloneblurr

        Thanks.  Although a “Like” 100 times looks good, sharing it through your social networks will be better.  Let us expose and oppose China’s bullying of The Philippines.

      • pinoyusa2012

        MIirror mirror on the wall. Who is the biggest bully of ‘em all?

    • thadeothadeo

      A Third World country needs investments from every country, and you are proposing to alienate our country from China for a simple case of misunderstanding or bravado from an inept president?

      You quoted Deng correctly, and the Chinese people will not deviate from it. Pragmatism is the way of the modern world now (as exemplified by Deng).  Wars to settle dispute has been outlawed as barbaric. I can see reasonable posts here that says China is not going to war with us over those insignificant shoals.  That is a disputed territory and no one, not even China, owns it.

      China wants dialogue with the Philippines.  Their refusal to settle the dispute at ITLOS does not mean they don’t want peaceful solution.  They just don’t want to drag the international community into a misunderstanding with a neighbor.  Is all. 

      • cycloneblurr

        To alienate or make hostile our country to their country is not the objective, but to let an independent arbiter help resolve the conflict.

        It is also Deng who proposed that being allied to other countries is the way to fight off a superpower bully.  He also defined what superpower bullying means and I quote, “They both keep subjecting other
        countries to their control, subversion, interference
        or aggression. They both exploit other countries
        economically, plundering their wealth and grabbing
        their resources.”

      • pinoyusa2012

        Incorruptible independent arbiter.

        Allies to all countries is best!

      • Danidanado

         If the Independent Arbiter were corruptible, the Chinese would be there in a New York Minute!

      • pinoyusa2012

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        Not if the US is already there!!

        hahahahahahahahahahahaha mahina lang baka me nakikinig. hehe

      • Danidanado

         You sound very much like a Chinese apologist.  A fifty center perhaps?  I’d bet my last centavo you are paid poster.  Sweet words…but a back stabbing knife hidden somewheres.

      • thadeothadeo

        And you sound like a living libel to common sense.

      • Danidanado

         Maybe so….common sense isnt very common anyway, surely not from where you stand.  Do you actually get fifty cents?  Seems to me that the Chinese Gubbermint is gettin ripped off!  lol

      • reddfrog

        Magsalita akala mo kung sinong may kakayahang talunin ang Tsina sa digmaan. Siguro kung nagkaputukan na ikaw ang pinaka-una tatakbo o lalangoy patunggong Estados Unidos.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/C2XYATZFGS6ZXXXF3UIDLTDHEQ Henri

        This dispute should be stopped as quickly as possible because it not only hurts friendship between two traditionally very good neighbours, but also create a confusion and disharmony within the country. Japan and China has deep historical scar and territory dispute even today, but the two countries are so economically integrated and as a consequence both nations get along with each other quite well. PH should learn from this. PH has better tie with China  historically and we should not let this dispute evolving into a chaos that prevents PH takes benefit of Chinese economic engine.

      • juantamadnatamad

        Thadeo,

        You are still trying? How many times you posted on many different boards that this is a simple case of misunderstanding? These two countries may go to war over this. Then later on you will post the Treaty of Paris and one like the Treaty of Binondo as well as some Chinese Dynasty and maps. Then you will call people war freaks. And when you are confronted your buddies is going to come tor your rescue. Way at the end you will stop short of renouncing your being a Filipino.

        Your simple misunderstanding is an incursion of chinese poachers in the Philippine territory. And to remind you, it is every Filipino’s duty to protect and defend every inch of the Philippine territory.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/6EUEPMBP3W3MXQ47RKJXNDB75M Ivan Yu

      你妈比这还有个行耶稣的。。。

      • Danidanado

         Dude! You are a sick individual!  Get to your Doctor and ask for him to up the dosage.  Then go to bed like your Mummy told you to.  ROFLMAO!  And if you know your Daddy, tell not to fish in Philippine waters too… Nitey Nite nite!

    • pinoyusa2012

      What is fair? International arbitration or Bilateral. We won’t know until we try one. Maybe we don’t need one and hope future incidents are managed by leaders who understand the evils of war.

      I just have corrections to that speech. ALL CONTROLING ENTITIES of  SUPERPOWERS, EMERGING SUPERPOWERS AND NATIONS that is a tyrant and everywhere subject others bullying, aggression and exploitation for his OWN BENEFIT should be exposed and opposed.

      • cycloneblurr

        Many of us would have probably witnessed,
        suffered or had been a part of bullying in one way or another.  And most, if not all, schoolyard bullies
        would never want to take matters through the principal’s office.

      • pinoyusa2012

        Yes we have and we have to rise our hand, stand up and speak up. Give em the finger. Whoever that may be. I don’t like accusations. I rather see it unfold and react.

        Besides, the Principal might be friends with the bully.

        The bully would offer the Principal perks so the bully could have his way.

        Now, the bully would ask his sidekick some money for a stick to prevent potential bullies from harassing them and use that stick to fight with potential bullies. Assuring the sidekick the bully is behind him all the way. I define that as exploitation and aggression.

        You still with me?

      • pinoyusa2012

        I lost you.

      • Danidanado

        Talk to yourself much! lol

        Stay off da grass, mon! lol

      • pinoyusa2012

        to Danidanado;

        U funny man. Just trippin’.

      • Danidanado

         Does that include the US as well?

      • pinoyusa2012

        Absolutely. Anywhere. Who has the capacity? Who has the tendancy?

    • pinoy_unity

       I totally agree. I don’t think its the Chinese people that causing all this problem but the Communist party government that are trying to brain wash the people of China.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6EUEPMBP3W3MXQ47RKJXNDB75M Ivan Yu

    你妈没事删我留言准尼噢—-江苏滨海人来支持黄岩岛。想找两个菲律宾姑娘捏捏,怎么样。

    • Danidanado

       ROFLMAO!  I used Google Translator to try and see if there was any intelligent thought in that comment….nope.  Something about his Mama telling him to delete it and go to bed.

      • Ivan Yu

        没文化真可怕 It’s terrible that one has less education. no need to translate through google this time.

      • Danidanado

         Why dont you go to bed like your Mommy told you?

      • Ivan Yu

        why don’t you go to bed with your naked  big stomach?

      • Danidanado

         ROFLMAO!  Muckkahai! OK!

      • Ivan Yu

        再补句,这年头谁还用谷歌, 用有道!Plus, we do not use outdate  google translate for many years, you can try YouDao, Chinese National Brand.

      • Danidanado

         Its even funnier when you translate into/from Spanish, Pending Joe!

  • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

    ‘maximize the benefits” that could be derived from the PH-US Mutual Defense Treaty’

    oxymoron yan
    panganib lang makukuha natin sa
    nuclear crossfire sa u.s. – tsina war

    di ata nagbabasa ng pilipino history
    not the u.s. version
    si del rosario at gasmin

    di pa kita ang mga trahedya
    na dinulot ng u.s. sa atin
    mula ng pilit nila tayong ginapi
    higit 100 taon na nakalipas

    • pinoyusa2012

      pre. hindi na kita maintindihan. gulong gulo na ko. GERA NA. AAAAAAAAAAAAAw buhay. Get on with our lives!

      pre kanta ba yan? pano ba tono…

      • http://joboni96.myopenid.com/ joboni96

        to the tune of
        tokyo rose

  • WeAry_Bat

    That map has got to be the most hilarious demarcation ever.  It’s really time we become a military-democratic state.

  • BatangSingapore

    kakaiba talaga sa panahon ngayon ang tapang ng mga sundalo sa buong mundo.  patagalan ng titigan at walang kumukurap hahhahahahahhaha.

    eto na yata yun sabi sabi na sa susunod na ikatlong gerang pandaigdigan ay walang ingay ka maririnig.

    pagalingan na lang kayo mag video games at kung sino mananalo ng ilang rounds ay siyang panalo.

    • BatangSingapore

      hindi nakukuha sa titigan ang proteksyon ng ating bakuran.  kapag meron pumasok sa loob nito ay kailangan patikimim kahit sapak man lamang.

      TALONG TALO TAYO SA GANYAN ISTILO, KAILANGAN IPAKITA SA MUNDO NA HINDI PWEDENG ANGKININ NG IBANG BANSA ANG PARA SA PILIPINAS.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Elmer-Cuaresma/100001144381811 Elmer Cuaresma

    kitang kita naman sa map , malapit sa philipinas ang panatag shoal,ang china napakalayo, tapos sila pa mag aankin, sobra na , mga chinis sa sa divisoria , quiapo paalisin, chekwa layas, pilipino ako sa pusot diwa, matapang na tao, di kami aatras, viva pinoy ako,proud to be a pilipino

  • santosboi

    tirahin na yan! para magkaalaman na! dami pang satsat eh.

  • tvnatinto

    sir nangangamkam ang china. tingnan nyo yung ginawa nila sa mischief reef. atin din po yon. etong scarborough maliwanag na maliwanag atin yan.

  • ricardo ricafort

    16 days passed and until now no papers of complaint were passed to any international governing bodies.  What are we waiting for?  China clearly violated two things- 1. poaching on endangered species 2. illegal entry and claim on Philippine territory based on 200 mile EEZ.  

    Letting these passed by makes this government of the Philippines incompetent.  



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